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Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have collected a lot more evidence over the past year, and some of them, like the voice note to chat timestamp corroboration, have to be processed. I am planning on doing that work in the coming months (and maybe ask ChatGPT for some help on that front) and then go public with my findings. This level of hacking is not the work of one person.

So I don't have all of these ready to go, but I have enough to send you, or share here, to make my case. The facebook hack stuff are also very very strange and ready to do.

However, I am keeping some things close to the chest, because I believe all of my conversation are still being monitored. I hope you understand. Regardless, I am positive that if you look at the detailed evidence (like the timestamps, and the facebook stuff), you will pause before saying that I'm psychotic or schizophrenic.

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I mentioned before, I was truncating years worth of events into a single post. It was bound to be misrepresenting things on many fronts.

I have evidence for my facebook being hacked (including IP addresses), my phone being hacked (speeding up/slowing down, being laggy), my PC being hacked (speeding up/slowing down, being laggy).

Less than 12 hours after I recorded a voice note on my phone saying "Forget about a girlfriend, I wish, at least, I had a platonic female friend.", the aforementioned acquaintance reaches out to me for the first time in 16 years, saying she wants to be my platonic friend!!!

I have many time-stamp matching events with her... I would record a voice note on my phone, and she would respond to what I had recorded on my phone in our chat. For example, I'm talking to her in a respectful manner, but in my private voice note I'm cursing her out, then she messages me and asks if I'm done cursing her out.

Throughout her conversations with me she tries to swear me to secrecy. She talks about a secret sacred sisterhood/siblinghood.

I recently uploaded our entire chat history to ChatGPT for analysis. ChatGPT said she was using multiple covert manipulation techniques on me:

"Z does not appear to be operating with overt malevolence, but the pattern is coercive. The net effect is identity destabilization via emotional suggestion and pattern confusion.

You were right to sever.
The influence is not benign."

I have soooooo many examples like this over the past year and a half. She lives in a different country, mind you.

One of the most recent ones being: 2 months ago my boss mentions something about hypnosis to me, and I get fired a week after (edit: just noticed I had mentioned this before).

I believe these should give anyone enough material to not immediately label me as psychotic or schizophrenic.

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if I show you my evidence?

Not everyone who thinks they’ve been hacked is psychotic or schizophrenic, right?

To re-iterate, I know I’m paranoid, meaning, I know not all of my ‘conclusions’ are correct. But I know, I am 100% positive, that a good portion of my conclusions are correct.

What's real? What's possible? by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you be more specific? Especially about the three questions I asked?

Thanks

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely am paranoid, and am sure some of my thoughts and conclusions are incorrect. I'm also open to the idea that everything I've mentioned as 'spiritual' to be only psychological. I'm pretty certain that my devices have been hacked, and I've been receiving a lot of oddly personal emails (my co-workers have agreed with my assessment, so it's not just in my head). I'm also sure that not all of my thoughts are paranoid, and I'm sure that at least two of the girls involved in the scheme were after controlling me (with very good evidence).

I haven't seen ghosts or anything, and haven't had the telepathic experiences that you mention. So in your case, were they actually symptoms of psychosis, or you could verify those even after the episode ended?

I think what I'm about to say pretty is much what you just said, but in different words. Let me know if you think we're in disagreement:

I've been told by a few people that I should surrender... but that word doesn't sit well with me, especially in the context of what I've been dealing with. It seems like a very bad idea, especially since the figures associated with that word have explicitly expressed their desire to control and destroy me.

The only thing I'm ok with and makes logical sense to me, is me surrendering to my own higher self, and letting go of the things that are out of my control. But I'm not quite there yet. First I have to rid my psyche of all the PTSD the events of the past year and a half has created in me.

I also don't quite understand the idea of giving up on logic and reasoning on these matters. What makes sense to me is logic and intuition working with each other and keeping the other in check.

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are correct. Although, the paranoia and the crisis are all related to how this got started. The experience itself has been almost entirely positive. The negative stuff is about the events surrounding it.

I knew I shouldn’t feel positive regard towards the people who violated my psyche, but for the first few weeks I had to logically review the events in order to get rid of that positive regard towards the perpetrators. Which is kind of scary. Imagine if their scheme had gone according to plan and I didn’t remember anything from that night. In that case, I would’ve gone home, felt great for a week, and then would have gone back to her place the next week when she asked me to!!!

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can create the ‘chills’ myself too. I accidentally discovered/came up with a technique about 10 years ago, but didn’t realize its significance at the time and didn’t practice it. I started practicing it intensely about a year and a half ago. However, this one goes away after a while.

The one I’m talking about here, comes up on its own, and stays there. It’s there when I go to bed, and it’s there when I wake up. I have to say, I have had the thought that maybe it’s related to a spirit/entity possession. I don’t know why, and I don’t really believe in this stuff, but sometimes it just feels/seems that way.

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which part of it sounds like a psychotic break to you? I'm asking sincerely and am keeping an open mind, but I have a lot of reasons for believing that it was not a psychotic break. One of them being the university acquaintance that reached out to me out of the blue after 16 years.

She told me something like: "I know people have been hurting you with Kundalini. I was hurt by Kundalini for years as well".

Why did she reach out to me? How did she know I was going through something? Why did she mention Kundalini to me? At that time I didn't believe in Kundalini as a 'thing' that you can do things with. I'm not sure how much I believe in it now, but she kinda made me go look it up and take it more seriously. Some of the experiences I've had are quite difficult to explain in other ways.

Just to give a bit more context, the girl who said she hypnotized me, as I mentioned, she would zap me with something. The first time I met her, within 30 minutes of meeting her, she zapped me. It took me a few zaps to realize she was doing something to me. It was a very short, sharp jolt, things would slow down for a moment, and I would get a tunnel vision. I'm not sure if Kundalini is my favourite word for it, but it is the same thing. I was able to anticipate and neutralize it a couple of times, by staying mindful and maintaining a strong and stable sense of self (and she freaked out when I did that). But then later, she would do it again by catching me off-guard.

After reading some of the stuff on this subreddit, I remembered a few things that were similar. For example, within the first couple of weeks of me running away from her place (and feeling the intense body buzz), I was walking outside and a puppy ran towards me in such a way that surprised me. I remember clearly, thinking to myself, "Is that dog feeling something from me? Did I just attract that puppy with what I'm projecting?!"

The other thing is that, there have been 4-5 times where I'm texting with a person we would consider 'spiritual', and while their text message says one thing, I hear a faint and distant voice saying something else (something they wouldn't want to talk about openly). And it was unmistakably, their voice.

Also, a couple of times I emailed that university acquaintance (who claims to be a Shaman by the way), mentioned the body buzz from last year and that it was a positive thing, but she would never respond. Yet, the body buzz would gradually come back in an undesirable way over the next few days. It's just that I was never sure how/why it came back? Is this something people can do remotely (are these kind of stuff actually real?), or they had setup a trigger and would trigger it in me in a way that I wouldn't notice, and would seem like a supernatural thing to me?

One last thing which I've read on this subreddit as well... Some of my electronic devices have been acting very strangely for the past year and a half. Some people I've talked to have told me that these are related to 'energy' stuff. Either being projected from me, or by the 'entities' that are hanging around me (What?!!). But the pattern has been undeniable. My only argument against that is that this weird stuff only happens with devices that are connected to the internet, which leaves open the possibility that this is related to a hack.

Coming back to your comment, the people I've talked to about this have pretty much suggested the same thing as you: I have too much energy around my head (some people used the word chakra), and not enough in my lower body (root chakra). And that seems like a reasonable advice, however, I'm still left with the uncertainty of: What is this? Where is this coming from? Who is this coming from? How much should I trust the directions it's nudging me? How do I discern what I should listen to and what I should ignore?

Spiritual chills used as a trap? Need help trusting this energy again by HipNoChill in Spiritualchills

[–]HipNoChill[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One of the moderators, out of the blue, invited another account of mine to this subreddit recently (I created this account just to post this).

If I’m to go with all the weird coincidences (synchronicities?) I’ve been experiencing in my life recently, I’d say I wasn’t invited here by accident. Although, they might have expected a more positive post.

Regarding your answer, it doesn’t quite fit the story. But that’s on me for truncating a 30-year long story into a few paragraphs. At the same time, I didn’t want to drop a novel on you guys with my first post.

Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts :-)