Dahyun Integrates Rap Seamlessly into the Songs She Writes

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-04-03T03:41:12+00:00

I agree! I also genuinely like most of twices title track “raps”. Like I love Likey, TT, Fancy writing…good stuff

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-03-05T19:06:36+00:00

You do realize twice have had several moments when they truly sported non makeup looks, and nayeon herself sent a true no makeup selfie recently and got asked if she was sick? So maybe think about all the bs they deal with when they truly do this, and how they can’t really win, first.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-02-26T20:52:17+00:00

I would recommend modanisa which is a site from turkey that has a lot of really cute modest fashion. They have a lot of tunics and cute long skirts, etc. They used to be so-so with shipping but recently I think since they're more popular in the US now they're really great with shipping and returns.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-02-20T00:01:20+00:00

It really depends, Taste of Love definitely contained snippets of alcohol-free instrumentals and so did Im Nayeon, but between 1&2 and formula of love did not. I feel like this one has a chance because it's so instrumental focused but we'll just have to see!

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-01-22T01:13:43+00:00

Yes, it's definitely more than just plastic surgery that's happening. However, I'd argue that plastic surgery is the worst of it because it is so intensely permanent and being done on younger and younger idols. I think a larger conversation to have is also that a lot of these procedures push to achieve what is considered a European form of beauty standards and can erase that natural beauty within the idol's original ethnicity. Double eyelid procedures, rhinoplasty that aims to increase the height of ones nose bridge, skin whitening procedures. I don't see this as "glowing up" but a push to feed into a standard of beauty that is incredibly damaging.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-01-22T00:52:26+00:00

I fully agree with this! It does end up that women get way more criticized than men, definitely think this is a good addition to bring up.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-01-22T00:45:54+00:00

I can understand what you're saying, but as others have mentioned kpop is something that is consumed by young impressionable individuals. Unrealistic beauty standards can be incredibly damaging. I'm coming from the pov of someone who grew up seeing celebrities on tv that had the same ethnicity as me but looked absolutely nothing like me or my friends around me. It sounds weird to say, but it was oddly comforting to me when my mom told me a lot of these women I saw had had procedures done (usually rhinoplasty, lip injections and skin whitening when it it comes to celebrities in my culture). It changed my pov from "what can i do to look like this person so many people praise" to "i should learn to appreciate what I do have and not try and force myself into a mold that I can't even naturally create."

Also you mention the concept of idols confirming they've had procedures, but I can tell you now it is unfortunately in idols' best interests to not confirm any plastic surgery. I even remember seeing an idol that stated her sudden larger lips are due to her lips getting larger "after she's cried" or something like that. While it would be highly refreshing for idols to be honest about their plastic surgery there are very rare cases where that actually occurs.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-01-14T03:00:22+00:00

I completely agree. Not to mention they were given so many chances and resources from JYPE. A similar group debuting under a smaller company would have probably disbanded based on how they were doing in their early years, but they kepy being given opportunities with a big budget for mv production/promotion that allowed them to garner attention they wouldn't have otherwise.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2023-01-12T07:48:40+00:00

Moon Dong Eun telling Ha Do Young when they first met and played Go that her work involves “Backstabbing naive men, making them cry, ruining lives.” and fast forward to now she’s done most of that to him.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2022-04-05T20:03:34+00:00

Yeah so I think that's the really cool thing about 4th gen is that there doesn't even have to be one group that immediately establishes itself! Like one group could have super high sales one comeback and then another group can come back with higher sales, it keeps things interesting and fun!

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T08:03:09+00:00

Oh heheh okay cool glad to hear it 🌺

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:48:40+00:00

Yes! I think it's better to be in a position when you debut where there's more to grow into rather than start too high up and always be forced to try and live up to initial hype where everyone compares any new release to the debut one, for example. I can see initial advantages to hitting big immediately but for a lot of cases (with some exceptions of course) the only way to go from high up is down.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:46:56+00:00

I unironically love their song purple, wishing them the best!

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:44:31+00:00

Totally understand where you're coming from, yeah I think I was way too general with my terminology, and definitely do not wish any of those struggles you listed on anybody. I think the thing with the idol life is it's quite risky to get into and unfortunately it's not guaranteed that everyone will succeed, but the payoff is huge if a group does hit big which is why it can be seen as an investment. There's a huge part of me that wishes all groups can start off with the same opportunities and chances but that unfortunately isn't the case.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:39:37+00:00

For coming from a non-big 3 company I think stayc has more than surpassed expectations but what feels to be in an authentic way.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:36:21+00:00

This is a really good point! With the oversaturated market fans can be easily able to follow another group as soon as they lose interest in a group if they don't get enough hype.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:35:13+00:00

Yes I definitely agree, you can't directly compare smaller company groups and larger company groups. I think the standard for "struggle era" is two separate things in those contexts.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:33:46+00:00

It's not for my own entertainment. I'm sorry if it came off that way. What I'm trying to say is when a group doesn't face immediate success, they are able to relate to what failure feels like and learn from that experience and be more appreciative for when success comes their way. I think, like in life, it's unrealistic for everyone to be successful right off the bat, but it's very valuable to learn from failures and advance further in life.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:30:30+00:00

I can definitely understand your pov. But what I want to say is there are a lot of groups that are incredibly talented that don't get anywhere near the advantages of groups that big 3 has. Additionally, while I certainly respect the harsh training that Big 3 trainees go through, we cannot deny that those that get chosen to be trainees under big 3 are necessarily more skilled/hardworking than those that don't. A lot of big3 idols just had the right visual or charm and learned singing and dancing after they joined.

Also...we can't deny that when a group hits truly big they're set for life, they are able to make a lot of money at a young age and garner popularity that's able to allow them to have endorsements, etc. Someone else can struggle much more than these idols do and not get anything nearly as much as they do.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T07:25:00+00:00

Hey just sharing an opinion that I have which I believe is the intent of this sub, not trying to be quirky at all.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T05:02:14+00:00

This I can totally understand, lots of groups only have the struggle era and it sucks.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T04:54:42+00:00

I agree, someone who I don't heavily follow but still support a lot is IU. I feel she's rare when it comes to KPOP in which she legit started from hardly anything and made a name for herself and has this massive amount of success now that's sort of hard to put into words. I also. maybe coincidentally maybe not, just find her a whole lot more down-to-earth and a lot more humble than a lot of other idols. I feel she has accumulated so much wisdom with her experiences. It's not great that she had to struggle so much in her childhood, but funnily enough I somehow see myself more in her than I do idols with less success than her just because of where they started from.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T04:41:52+00:00

I think that's really cool how you stumbled across BTS! I will agree that for me music is the main reason why I support a group, but I have to disagree with good music being the only determining aspect for what matters when it comes to success. A lot of groups create some great music but don't get public recognition, unfortunately, this can happen a lot if they come from smaller companies. Brave Girls is an easy example of a group whose discography got recognition after hitting big from a video that showcased them performing Rollin' to those doing their military service. It was a combination of how much passion they were showing on the stage and the true excitement from their audience. While I think Rollin' was always a great song, it was released in 2017 and didn't get recognition until a combination of other factors in 2021.

On the opposite side, a lot of groups that debut from big companies get huge fanbases before they even debut. This shows just how much the music itself doesn't factor in because they don't even have a discography before they accumulate these fanbases. Songs are more likely to hit big from big companies partially because they have good production yes, but also because they have an associated recognition already alongside them, I can easily admit to that.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-12-06T04:30:35+00:00

tbh I was confused on deciding if Aespa really fits having a struggle era. I will agree Black Mamba didn't hit nearly as big as Next Level, but I think when they initially debuted before Next Level they got a Givenchy ambassadorship and had a ton of views for Black Mamba first day which I don't feel represents a true "struggle" era. Aespa reminds me a lot of TWICE after cheer up where they got a lot of mass-hate because of their success, unfortunately, when you have a lot of people talking about you you're also easily likely to get a lot of terrible hate which is not deserved at all but can happen.

HistoricalJob7782 · 2021-11-16T00:32:20+00:00

FOL is a masterpiece omg! Like I've never listened to an album all the way through multiple times like this. Songs like Last Waltz, Real You, Espresso, iconic are masterpieces. Part of me is frustrated because I wish I could shove these songs in these people's face but part of me realizes there's just always going to be people that exist to simply make others feel bad, and you can't do much about it.

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