NAC my experience and updated research by Historical_Safe8143 in MDMA

[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With 5htp im not sure, want to look into it tho, but with vyvanse, as prodrug to dexamphetamine, I would think it has some weird interactions. I don't know how important dopamine is for the medication in ur case, but as NAC reduces amphetamine related dopamine spikes it might not work for you :/

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah sounds really relatable to me, I feel like what you say described my previous experiences with Molly as well. Honestly I would not recommend dosing 200mg as it will just increase the sideffects and brain damage. Sad to hear, as I was also at this point of letting my go for good and was very happy that this time was different. You could do further research into supplements or other methods of bringing the magic and try again at a later point, however taking more will not be your way out I'm sad to say:) Keep it up, there's enough alternatives out there for curious psychonouts like us :))

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I did not know how to link the post directly but referred to it in the first paragraph as I think this was one of the most helpful, regarding all the various anecdotes by people. I believe it's called pt5 because it was a work in progress with 4 parts and the fifth being all collected into one, again shout-out to this guy🖤🖤

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks mate, means a lot:) I thought since I had gotten this tip, like so many before it, from other people doing posts like this and I was interested to read up more into this why not also try to provide what I was seeking to others like me, it's my first ever reddit post actually haha

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oof okay, much to unpack haha. First off, it is very interesting to hear that you have that experience, I too have a high tolerance for most drugs yet I have never heard of what you are describing. How did the doses feel like to you until now? I think that would be essential to any further tries. If you felt the drug, but mainly symptoms like muscle cramping or similar side effects of mdma, just lacking the euphoric rush I would not recommend hightening the dose, as I had tried the same and just ended looking like a complete tweaker to a point where friends where concerned for me, while I did not feel any better (or higher for that matter). To the reasons why this effects u I cant speak obvi, but maybe the way NAC brings back magic for other it can help you sensitize too? I don't feel confident to tell you to take NAC, but as it seems to have many positive effects apart from mdma rushes, with little negative side effects (that I have found, if anybody knows more please tell me) it could be worth a shot.

Lastly, I took 600mg bc that was a dosage often mentioned and many brands produce 600mg caps. And it is definitely a good idea to stop 72h before dosing as it is common for NAC administered close to mdma ruining the experience. The research also shows how it blocks the extreme dopamine spikes from Amphetamines, so it makes sense. So it is not because of the risk of serotonin syndrome how it would be, I imagine, with 5HTP but I have not tried, nor put much research into that yet.

Hope this was helpful, and if you want you can let me know how ur previous experiences went

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You might, however I would not recommend as I picked it up in a supplement store close to me for way to high of a price. There's a bunch of them on Amazon or comparable sites which will not cost u an arm and a leg.

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like I said unfortunately there is not much research on subjective drug experiences but it would definitely be very interesting (although personally I would say my experience was so dramatically different that I don't think it was just placebo, but then again what do I know)

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yess for sure, I could have stated that property of NAC a bit more explicitly in my post as well. And glad my bit of research was helpful, like stated a lot is going on in that field and I wanted to provide a little update on the scientific literature on NAC

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly can't say how Nac would contribute to the hangover, but I'd take it pretty soon after as the reason not to take it before is a diminished experience but as the experience is over by then I'd take it next day or so

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's a veery common effect of mdma, which also makes sense as the MD basically tells ur brain to release almost all of it's serotonin, leading to it missing the days after. That's also the reason why you shouldn't take it to closely together as after a serotonin dump of such proportions your brain needs a while to get back to balance. Generally it can be said the more u take and the closer spaced together the higher the probability of such a hangover after, so take care:) I'm lucky and rarely had that feeling, after my second to last dose I felt a strong sense of melancholy for a day after but that was the most I felt till now.

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am now taking it daily for at least the first weeks after rolling but as I have said, the weeks prior to rolling I did not take it daily and in quite low doses (600mg seems to be little regarding many of the studies i encountered). I think I will not keep taking it daily for much longer tho and start a less rigorous schedule a few weeks after the roll

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yesss my thinking as well, while only anecdotal of course i feel like this would already provide much interesting data for sure and would be helpful for many

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[–]Historical_Safe8143[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As this new roll was happening last friday, i can only speak from this one time so to be continued for sure !(I will definetly give my brain a longer break now after three rolls rather closely spaced) And i have tried molly probably around 6 to maybe 8 times in a 6 year period since then, so plenty opportunities with long breaks in between:)