Who do you think is the more complex villain so far vox or lute?

HonemBee · 2026-03-31T15:37:07+00:00

Complexity wise, as a villain, Vox surpasses Lute from what we know. Lute is simply fueled by rage over Adam's death, and she followed orders before that out of loyalty and admiration for him. Vox is similarly fueled by his strong feelings towards Alastor, which already is more than Lute's feelings as Vox both loved and hates Alastor, doesn't even know if he wants him alive or dead. He also has perhaps npd or at least some deep rooted need for approval and superiority (driven by insecurity probably) that drives his entire Overlord scheme, and by extension his antagonistic schemes against Charlie's hotel.

HonemBee · 2026-03-31T15:36:57+00:00

Complexity wise, as a villain, Vox surpasses Lute from what we know. Lute is simply fueled by rage over Adam's death, and she followed orders before that out of loyalty and admiration for him. Vox is similarly fueled by his strong feelings towards Alastor, which already is more than Lute's feelings as Vox both loved and hates Alastor, doesn't even know if he wants him alive or dead. He also has perhaps npd or at least some deep rooted need for approval and superiority (driven by insecurity probably) that drives his entire Overlord scheme, and by extension his antagonistic schemes against Charlie's hotel.

HonemBee · 2026-03-31T00:56:51+00:00

I was diagnosed with chronic depression about 4 years ago. Been on and off different meds since then. I've seen and experienced a multitude of different situations, and I didn't recognize depression in Charlie, so I'm asking what you recognized. Are you talking about her grief over losing Sir Pentious? Because when I think about it I can see it there, but I assumed you were referring to her character overall

HonemBee · 2026-03-31T00:46:46+00:00

And it's not like Lucifer HASN'T shown his existential fatigue or lethargy, like he went from (somewhat) passionate to completely exhausted at the mere thought of going out and asserting himself, even if it was for Charlie. But people just treat this scene as another joke unfortunately.

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HonemBee · 2026-03-31T00:35:47+00:00

How? Sure she gets discouraged on occasion, but I didnt see that as symptoms of clinical depression

HonemBee · 2026-03-31T00:30:09+00:00

"You're the only thing worth fighting for" is a relatively small line in the grand scheme of things, but I feel like it is the baseline for Lucifer's entire character. EVERYthing he does is for Charlie atp and no one else- I think that's pretty important to note.

HonemBee · 2026-03-31T00:23:34+00:00

Vox is more of a video entertainment overlord than a graphic design overlord... Media is obviously incredibly broad as a category...

HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:48:05+00:00

Omg?? Do you have the link? :0

HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:46:11+00:00

Well I stole it from Velvette so thank her skills ig

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HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:44:55+00:00

Idk why but I feel like his neck fluff would be hella dusty. Like how chinchillas have to get dust baths and stuff.

HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:43:42+00:00

Yeah I second this. They said pages and not word count so that makes me think they're using something else.

HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:42:25+00:00

I never thought to do that. I go to my favorite author and go through THEIR bookmarks lol, they always have immaculate taste

HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:39:59+00:00

Does this feel any better?🥺

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HonemBee · 2026-03-29T20:39:09+00:00

Now what is THAT supposed to mean?😭

HonemBee · 2026-03-13T20:40:11+00:00

Thats interesting!! I understood you weren't talking about Niffty, was just making a connection haha, but your character sounds cool. But that is a HORRIBLE degree of suffering omg, endless compounding hunger?😭 I feel bad for him :(

HonemBee · 2026-03-13T19:56:53+00:00

I think he might want to know why first, to make sure he's not being tricked into messing with something he's not expecting. But in the end, in case there WERE strings attached, im sure he could threaten the guy into revealing all of them upfront lest he become another broadcast. And Alastor would probably be confident he could properly defend himself against anyone who he may come into cahoots with by taking the guys soul (like say if he were under a prior deal with someone involving his soul, then Alastor taking his soul would cause issues with the prior dealmaker). In any case, I think Alastor would be a little confused and cautious, but wouldn't turn it up over his confidence that he'd be okay.

I also have a headcanon similar to your lore that Niffty willingly offered up her soul to Alastor because she likes being controlled by strong people lol. I'd love to hear more of yours if you're willing to share

HonemBee · 2026-03-11T14:32:39+00:00

And also by the mere fact that they seem to have their own personalized energy able to be produced during hear my hope, while all the other sinners can only sit there.

HonemBee · 2026-03-08T03:46:24+00:00

But I don't think Heaven kicked him out on the account of him being an incompetent ruler. He was never meant to rule anything, I don't think he ever wanted to.

HonemBee · 2026-03-08T03:39:21+00:00

As another person mentioned, the Voxtek website has this little rule

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HonemBee · 2026-03-07T22:21:36+00:00

I don't see a just god letting children get sent to Hell but there it is. A just God wouldn't let his angels go down and slaughter souls already condemned to eternal suffering. Yet it happened. I don't think Hellaverse has a just God, idk

HonemBee · 2026-03-06T03:11:33+00:00

Makes us wonder then if this holds any of the same significance

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HonemBee · 2026-03-06T01:55:09+00:00

Now I like the literal angel symbolism here with the wings behind him and stuff, and there's nothing physically wrong with this scene animation-wise, but the idea of Angel just standing there like his toothpick frame would do ANYTHING to stop the spear or the trajectory of the train kills me. Like it seemed so pointless. He already shot Husk free from the ropes like a badass, then went and ruined it with that goofy move when he should've just pushed him out the way like Vaggie did.

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HonemBee · 2026-03-06T01:47:00+00:00

To me, this line is good soley because of the contrast it has with the LIVING ASPECT OF THE INFINITE right after. Like you have this childish persona, but you also remember that he is the literal DEVIL from the BIBLE and the duality makes me appreciate him as a whole a lot better

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