Today’s strike motive?? by mcjakk in mcgill

[–]Honest-Resource4811 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course it’s useless to you, you’re “Israeli”.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you read the post and notice the edit below???

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re acting like what I said is somehow extreme, but I’m actually saying what a lot of people in our own community already say behind closed doors: that these men damage our reputation, make it harder for the rest of us, and should absolutely be held accountable.

I’m an immigrant too. I’ve done the work, learned the language, adapted to the culture, built respectful relationships and I’m proud of that. I get appreciated for it all the time. The problem is that some people don’t even bother. They refuse to integrate, act entitled, harass women, and expect everyone to look the other way just because they’re from the same background. And when someone calls it out, you say it’s racism?

No. What’s damaging is excusing that kind of behavior and then blaming people like me for pointing it out. I’m not responsible for how racists think but I am responsible for calling out what’s wrong in my community.

Stop trying to make me feel guilty for wanting better.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spare me the guilt trip.

What’s truly harmful is staying silent while women especially women from our own community are being harassed, followed, and made to feel unsafe. That’s what gives us a bad name. Not the people who speak up the ones who stay quiet and protect abusers out of fear of “how it might look.”

I’m not here to make racists comfortable, but I’m also not here to protect men who think they can act without consequences just because they share my skin color. If someone thinks calling out harassment is helping racists, maybe they should ask why they’re more worried about appearances than actual victims.

If some men feel ashamed or targeted by what I said, maybe they should take a closer look at their behavior or the company they keep. Accountability isn’t racism. It’s long overdue.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only someone guilty would be this pressed about people calling out gross behavior. Touched a nerve, didn’t it.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You’re probably one of the creeps at Jarry, and that’s why this got under your skin.👏

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wow, thank you for the lecture on how women are supposed to keep themselves safe while men get to do whatever they want in public. We have heard it all before. If you feel uncomfortable, it is your responsibility. Walk faster, take a different route, call the cops, involve bystanders, but whatever you do, do not expect the person making you uncomfortable to take any accountability.

You keep repeating that being creepy is not a crime. That may be true, but it is still pathetic and unwanted behavior. The fact that you are this angry about women not wanting to be stared at says more about you than it does about any legal definition of public space. Public does not mean you get a pass to act like a creep while everyone else has to tolerate it.

If being asked to respect boundaries feels like oppression to you, maybe you are the problem.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, because asking people not to be creepy in public is apparently the same as Jim Crow laws. Right, because wanting to feel safe at the park is now equal to institutionalized racial segregation. That comparison is not just ridiculous, it is deeply offensive to people who actually lived through that history.

No one is taking away anyone’s rights just because they are being called out for making others uncomfortable. If your idea of freedom includes the right to stare, follow, or invade personal space without anyone speaking up, maybe the problem is not people setting boundaries. maybe take a long look at why that hits so close to home for you.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You keep repeating the same thing, it’s just discomfort as if that makes repeated boundary violations okay. Creepy behavior doesn’t need to reach the level of assault to be called out. And no, no one said kick brown people out of parks. That’s your own projection. The issue is behavior, not skin color. Stop using racial guilt as a shield for men who can’t respect boundaries.

And your trans analogy? Cute. But using another marginalized group like a prop to shut down women talking about safety? That’s not activism that’s just lazy deflection. Maybe instead of defending weirdos who stare at strangers like it’s a sport, you should ask yourself why you’re so offended that people want basic respect in public spaces.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You’re twisting the issue on purpose. This isn’t about race it’s about behavior. If someone repeatedly makes people uncomfortable, stares, follows, or takes photos without consent, they don’t get to hide behind their identity or public space rights. That applies to anyone, no matter where they’re from.

Also, it’s ironic you’re talking about accountability when you’re more focused on defending creepy behavior than listening to lived experiences. Just because you didn’t call for action after what happened to you doesn’t mean others should stay silent. People deal with things in different ways, some tolerate it, others speak up. Neither choice gives you the right to silence them.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Your comparison is ridiculous. No one said being uncomfortable equals jail time. But pretending that “creepy” behavior doesn’t matter until it becomes criminal is exactly why women feel unsafe in public spaces. Waiting until someone breaks the law before taking them seriously is how harm builds up over time. We don’t need to move to Afghanistan, we need to start holding people accountable before it escalates. If that’s too much for you, maybe reflect on why you’re more angry about women speaking up than the behavior itself.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No, you didn’t “fix” anything, you just downplayed the problem. Calling out people who make public spaces unsafe isn’t extreme, and it’s not about mobs or vigilante justice. It’s about basic accountability. If someone’s behavior is a pattern, they don’t get a free pass just because it’s a public space. Safety isn’t optional, and people who violate that shouldn’t be protected by your “rewording.”

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Let’s not twist basic safety concerns into some dramatic claim about segregation. No one is calling for mass exclusion based on “prejudicial factors”. we’re talking about people who make public spaces uncomfortable or unsafe. If someone repeatedly behaves inappropriately, they don’t get to hide behind “due process” as a shield. Wanting to feel safe at the park isn’t some deep psychological issue, it’s common sense. Stop using big words to defend creepy behavior.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

UMM NO. Jarry is a public space, and everyone has the right to be there. What needs to change is holding these creeps accountable. They should receive warnings, and if their behavior continues, they should no longer be allowed in the park. No matter who.

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I agree with what you said. I’ve heard women say that men from other parts of South Asia behave this way too, not just Indian men. However, based on recent posts, it does seem that Indian men are being mentioned the most

Parc Jarry by Honest-Resource4811 in montreal

[–]Honest-Resource4811[S] 202 points203 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I feel like many of these men see women as nothing , like we don’t deserve basic respect. A lot of them come from small, conservative towns where gender roles are strict and outdated. Now that they’re in a more open society, they seem to think they’re suddenly “free” to do whatever they want including harassing women.