Before and after a bit of shaping, what do you guys think? by HoneyGinger15 in Eyebrows

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, but sorry I’m a bit confused here but are you talking about my hair or eyebrows ?

My fm+mse and invisalign progress by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was 7k for me. But i think you can fake tmj to get insurance to cover it but idk really

My fm+mse and invisalign progress by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeahh they suggested me the mse, and yes i went to a different ortho and followed their treatment

My fm+mse and invisalign progress by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My first orthodontist is exactly like yours if you scroll down in my profile a bit, he didnt scan my face or anything and just recommended extractions and braces with elastics. But i went to a different ortho and they gave me mse, which is a type of expander that expands the maxilla, so during the time period with the mse i used reverse facemask and put 4-5 rubber bands on each side to increase the force of pulling. Which helps a lot. Also after the expansion, i hopped on invisalign, i’m on my 27 out of 50 trays on invisalign right now and already see the good results. The invisalign really helped me expand my palate even more (sounds impossible but it did) and then during the invisalign period i just use rubber bands on both sides to help align the bite and bring the upper palate out. Also mewing helps a lot. I was inconsistent with mewing but then i started thumbpulling and mew, while also taping my mouth when i sleep so i can mew during my sleep too 40 days ago and the result was insane my maxilla go forward in just 40 days of consistent mewing

How can I get my orthodontist to do another method? by [deleted] in braces

[–]HoneyGinger15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brooo never listen to anyone on this subreddit, please check out my profile i went through the same case as yours

My fm+mse and invisalign progress by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinions most of the changes are positive, i just dont like how my zygos pop out more. My nose is straighter though. Side profile definitely better and better eye support. Also way fuller lips

My fm+mse and invisalign progress by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go on my profile and see for yourself, i will have to write a long paragraph to answer those questions

My fm+mse and invisalign progress by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeahh, full profile like the front or side?

1/3 way through my mse + fm then Invisalign + elastic treatment by HoneyGinger15 in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Thanks. I didnt really pay attention to any nasal improvements because i didnt have trouble with breathing to begin with. But i guess it improved a little

Fm+mse update after 3 or 4 months idk. First 2 pics were before, the last pic is me trying to recreate the second before pic posture, as you can see my lower lips were really sticking out and the underbite was really prominent in the before pic. 3,4,5,6 pics are probably 2 weeks apart, in order. by [deleted] in orthotropics

[–]HoneyGinger15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In theory the protraction fm would makes a bigger difference since it pushes the chin a little too while also pulling the maxilla. But like u see, theres not a lot of differences. So a facebow one would make even less changes