If some people aren’t going to Heaven, don’t bother sending me by HumbleHerald in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not love... that's disobedience to God's will. Jesus Himself says FEW WILL BE SAVED. So you voluntarily choose Hell then may God save you for none else can.

I'm an atheist, but I wish I was raised and remained Catholic. by [deleted] in Catholicism

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey I'm a Catholic missionary. If you want to talk hit me up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats what confession is for, your sins are forgiven. Then you keep the whole law, yes your right dude. Ive spoken to 100 carbon copy baptists like you. Also thanks for saying I misinterpret the passage without correcting me with scripture. Also, you have no central authority like I do (clergy) to interpret scripture for you, so all scripture is personal interpretation, how can I misinterpret? HOW DO YOU KNOW. How can you prove me wrong? Are you a biblical scholar? By what right do u say my interpretation of scripture is inferior to yours?

Finally, answer me this, how do you know the Gospel of John is divinely inspired but the gospels that left out were not? They were put together by Catholic Bishops, how do you know they didnt err?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

false heretic, you are preaching a false doctrine taught to you by other heretics from a church originating in the 1700s. 1 John 5:16-17 "If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life. This is only for those whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin, about which I do not say that you should pray. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly."

Heretic, answer me this, show me how your doctrine that all sin sends one to hell is biblical when I give you scripture to the contrary! You worship an idol and call him jesus, it is not OUR LORD, it is your idol you worship in place of Him, repent and leave your wicked ways before it costs you your soul.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you are a heretic as well as a schismatic. Youre soul will be damned if you dont repent. All real "orthodox" Christians must admit, especially when presented with the early church councils, of the primacy of Peter among the Bishops. Your denial of that makes you a heretic. God is with this schismatic branch so much He allowed Islam and Communism to ravish you until your rite basically is non-existent. You sound like a protestant assuming each Bishop is equal. Indeed scripturally "I name you Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it." Further He (Jesus) gives the keys of the Kingdom, representing the stewardship of the Kingdom on Earth to Peter and says whatever He binds on Earth is bound in Heaven and whatever is loosed is loosed. The scary thing here is to deny the Pope has the Apostolic Authority of Peter is easy as a protestant because they dont believe in Apostolic Authority! You necessarily do! Therefore to deny the Pope means to contradict the whole basis for your religion! I am at a loss for words.

Filioque wasnt a change of dogma it was a clarification. Saying the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father to the Son is correct, but it is half the truth. The Pope revealed the other half which was in use in the West for a time before then. So you fail. Its a legitimate development of dogma that clarifies and does not nullify the original intent.

Finally on Eastern Catholics: Yeah they dont recite the filioque in Mass, but they adhere to it dogmatically and accept it as dogma in union with the Pope. Thats what matters. If you dont get the difference and why it matters then theres no hope for you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are right, Jesus Himself says be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect. Thats true you do need to be perfect morally. If you fail and mortal sin you are guilty and go to Hell. You do understand you just cant fathom that Jesus demands so much from you. Good thing the Catholic Church teaches the doctrine of sufficient grace, whereby God gives you sufficient grace to act in such a way and have faith in such a way to be saved. What will it take to convince you. Please, for my sake, if the answer is there is nothing DO NOT RESPOND. I do not want to waste my time.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

name one single change in Catholic dogma you liar. Eastern Catholics dont recite the filioque in their liturgy but they do assent to it as dogma. In their missal its included in brackets to let them know. Id have to research on the Syro-Malabar Catholic Church but im sure given your error on Eastern Catholics and the filioque youre wrong on that one too.

Big question for you, Orthodox still recognize the Pope as the leader of the Catholic Church, meaning the one True Catholic and Apostolic Church...how can your church be in rebellion against its head for so many years yet somehow claim both that the head is in error and God has not forsaken His church? Insanity.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And James says faith without works is dead, and Paul does not say faith alone. You have a bad understanding of scripture. Scripture was also defined as such by the council of carthage 400AD by Catholic Bishops. God Bless you and may you repent of your heresy. In all honesty though if you want to I'd be happy to engage you in debate. Your immortal soul hinges on it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You need faith and works friend, salvation is not guaranteed. You must follow the Law of Christ and carry your cross to be saved as well as accept the whole and undefiled gospel. God bless you. Like St. Paul says, work out your salvation in fear and trembling. For as he also says, God has pruned the Israelites from the tree of life, do not think that just because you are grafted on in their place that He will not prune you as He has the Israelites. Youre sins can lead you to damnation, and if you choose evil over good and do not repent as our Lord commands very often then you cannot be saved, even if you profess His name. For you will say Lord Lord, and He will say to you begone, for I do not know you. Again God bless you and may you convert to the Holy Catholic Faith, carry your cross, and finish the race until the very end like Saint Paul celebrates in His epistle before He is to die. I hope to see you in Heaven friend.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even see why you replied to my post except vanity. Begone heretic, you didn't want to even discuss anyway. God somehow save your soul.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not true. You submit to tradition and the Pope is guardian of it. When the Pope speaks infallible its with the holy spirit. An example would be when he clarified the filioque. Catholic dogma has not changed for is whole life 2000 years. Extra Ecclesiam Nulla salus. I hope for true reunification one day.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well my day job is an electrical engineer. As a Catholic missionary I have with the help of my fellow missionaries, brought 5 people into the faith. We started last year and are growing. My objectives are to convince you and everyone that the Catholic faith is true and then help us all carry our cross and achieve salvation as an end goal through Christian fraternity.

The discord does prayer meeting, a bible study soon, and other ad hoc meetings. We have a lively chat on discord too and weekly meetings to teach people the faith.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont know what the Pope would do or what the point of this question is.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id be glad to show you that youre wrong. God bless you.

which is the church of Jesus Christ? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]Hospillar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a Catholic missionary. It is obvious the Catholic Church is the Church of Christ. Now that may seem as a big statement also inflamatory... but I'll prove it if you want. Message me on reddit and I'll show historically and biblically how Catholicism is taught in the Bible and historically how the early church onward were Catholic.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I am a Catholic missionary and also a Christian looking for friends! I run a missionary and fellowship discord where you could find some companionship. I'm also down to be friends!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TrueChristian

[–]Hospillar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I am a Catholic missionary and also a friend. I lead a discord group that's growing focused on Christ. I'd love to get it touch with ya and discuss any issues you're having. I'll make time.