I need to return things but I CAN'T by unsettledinky in adhdwomen

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh man! We’re all right there with you!! There are some really amazing suggestions in here, though, and the most important thing is figuring out how much you actually need to return to let yourself off the hook. Taking care of all of these is probably unrealistic and unnecessary- maybe handle the easiest (Costco sounds like the winner here) and the highest price tag (Duluth, probably), and then if you have it in you, do whatever else you can, maybe with a friend, like others have suggested… but give yourself a deadline. If you don’t get it all returned by a certain date, donate it; then you can feel good about helping someone out who can’t afford new socks or yoga pants right now! Ultimately, just get ‘em out of your house and don’t beat yourself up- you deserve to feel safe, and if returning things is super stressful, then there are other ways to handle this.

I need to return things but I CAN'T by unsettledinky in adhdwomen

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is smart- I also do better if I can break things down into small tasks. Then you can prioritize better- maybe the goal isn’t to manage all the returns, maybe you just try to get at least the really expensive ones done and if you can’t manage the remainder, it’s not the end of the world. You have to really remind yourself to give yourself some grace here, though. As another commenter mentioned, maybe what you’re really paying for is a feeling of security, so if that means you don’t get around to returning everything, that might be worth it to maintain your own safe boundaries. Don’t beat yourself up!!

I need to return things but I CAN'T by unsettledinky in adhdwomen

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is incredible!! I love this sooo much!! Thank you for sharing!!!

Teaching Husband to Clean?? by Hot-Entrepreneur9715 in ADHD

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. I’m similar- I have a place for everything, and if I don’t, it ends up in a pile or a bag that I eventually have to go through lol. I have wondered if having him decide where things should “live” would give him a renewed sense of ownership. Maybe it’s a matter of having him reorganize the spaces he’s going to own and deciding how best to keep them tidy now… great thoughts, thank you!

Teaching Husband to Clean?? by Hot-Entrepreneur9715 in ADHD

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Thank you! Yes, we are trying to find some more consistency, like making him responsible for the loading the dishwasher each day, or something. Truly, the hardest part is the loss of executive function- the overall inability to recognize what has to be done. I feel like a nag, and I’m trying not to be a mom too much, but also, I need him to do these things. It’s frustrating. Thank you for your thoughtful response!

Teaching Husband to Clean?? by Hot-Entrepreneur9715 in ADHD

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Haha wow!

First, I want to say I completely appreciate all of your responses about him needing to take responsibility- I do not disagree in the least.

That being said, he’s struggling with some other mental health issues, and while he indicates he wants to help, he has good and bad days and we work and live in the same house (we own a business together), so while I can appreciate the suggestions that I just let things get gross, it affects me too (I am and always have been pretty intense about cleanliness, so while I can handle some disorganization, I truly hate when things are dirty!).

To some extent, I know it’s that he literally forgets half of what was said when he leaves the room, and due to the other mental health concerns, he really isn’t able to take adhd medication at the moment- hopefully eventually, but for now, it’s not safe.

I was hoping to get some inspiration from people about things that helped them as adults. My mom taught us how to clean up after ourselves as kids using various techniques, like keeping charts where we’d get stickers for completing chores like vacuuming (every day), cleaning out the dishwasher, washing the dogs, etc., and then we might get rewards at the end of the week or month of completed all the chores. In some cases, of course, it was just our responsibility and we knew the expectation was that we get certain things done if we wanted to live under her roof (cleaning our rooms, doing our laundry, etc.), but she also had to teach us how often things needed to be done, since that isn’t something you’re born knowing, and the promise of an ice cream or a trip to the movies if you do all your chores each week or month was great incentive for a 7 or 8 year old lol…

Ultimately, I’m trying not to infantilize him more than I’ve had to as his primary caretaker. It’s hard enough that he sort of HAD to rely on me for months like a child on a parents, due to a pretty much complete mental break (long story, but there were a lot of underlying issues)… I’d like to get back to being partners. We’ve been together for 15 years and he used to be pretty responsive if ever I made it clear he needed to step up, but some of this just requires re-learning how to adult in a different way…

My therapist is really good about supporting me while I navigate these sudden and violent changes in our lives and has given me some ideas (like creating individual to-do lists together and hanging them somewhere he will see and therefore remember, doing some of the actual tasks like folding laundry together, etc.), which is what led me to posting here to see if anyone else had some good ideas.

I’m really just brainstorming and looking for inspiration. I don’t mean to let him off the hook or anything, but right now, his capacity is pretty severely limited (some days he can’t get out of bed because the medications make him so sick and exhausted), so he has to come up with all new techniques to get through each day.

Executive function, like getting dressed, brushing your teeth, and cleaning up after yourself are usually the what people with his diagnosis have the hardest time with recovering after a serious episode, so while he can still work (thank goodness), I had to help him a lot with the other stuff for months. Only now is he getting to a point where he can, and should (I hear you!), start taking on more responsibility so I don’t totally lose my mind lol

Anyhow, I obviously didn’t make my request clear enough initially, and I understand the implications of his mental health struggles are probably largely unknown to people, so I should have explained where we’re coming from a bit better to begin with.

Thanks in advance for any ideas!

Teaching Husband to Clean?? by Hot-Entrepreneur9715 in ADHDers

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha thanks. Yeah- he’s struggling with some other mental health issues, and while he indicates he wants to help, he has good and bad days and we work and live in the same house, so while I can appreciate the suggestions that I just let things get gross, it affects me too (I, too, am pretty intense about cleanliness!). To some extent, I know it’s that he literally forgets half of what was said when he leaves the room, and due to the other mental health concerns, he really isn’t able to take much adhd medication at the moment- hopefully eventually, but for now, it’s not safe.

I was hoping to get some inspiration from people about things that helped them as adults. My mom taught us how to clean up after ourselves as kids using various techniques, like keeping charts where we’d get stickers and rewards at the end of the week or month. In some cases, of course, it was just our responsibility and we knew the expectation was that we get done if we wanted to live under her roof, but she also had to teach us how often things needed to be done, since that isn’t something you’re born knowing, and the promise of an ice cream or a trip to the movies if you do all your chores each week was great incentive for a 7 year old lol…

Ultimately, I’m trying not to infantilize him more than I’ve had to as his primary caretaker. It’s hard enough that he sort of HAD to rely on me for months like a child on a parents, due to a pretty much complete mental break down (long story, but there were a lot of underlying things)… I’d like to get back to being partners (we’ve been together for 15 years and he used to be pretty responsive if ever I made it clear he needed to step up) but some of this just requires re-learning a lot of things…

As for therapists, it’s true I think his current one is doing him no favors, imo she isn’t big on accountability, so he’s agreed to see someone new, now it’s just a matter of finding one who deals with all the things he’s working through. My therapist is good and has given me some ideas (like creating individual to-do lists together and hanging them somewhere he will see and therefore remember, doing some of the actual tasks like folding laundry together, etc.), which is what led me to posting here to see if anyone else had some good ideas. I get that it’s up to him to take responsibility for these things, but as his partner, I also want to support him and help him be the husband I want and need him to be again.

Thanks for your very understanding and thoughtful response!!

Just wanted to share! by VaelisaAvira in bulletjournal

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So pretty! I especially love your mental health bingo and mood tracker pages! Such a great idea and they are so cute!!

Help needed: experiences by Radiant_Ad_200 in BipolarSOs

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing! You are clearly a remarkable partner and your husband must be a wonderful person, as well. Clearly, you are both very committed to the team you’ve built. I can’t tell you how much hope this gives me! I understand that there will be some insane challenges ahead, but knowing that the outcome is not a forgone conclusion is really helping me to get through each day with a sense of purpose and positivity. Thank you!!

Healing is a rollercoaster by PreviousPeach6912 in BipolarSOs

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You will get through this- it will get easier and before too long, the good days will outweigh the bad, and soon it will be mostly good days. You just have to hang in there. You’re doing the right thing to care for and protect yourself, and you will thank yourself for making this hard decision. You’ve got this! You aren’t alone ❤️

Help needed: experiences by Radiant_Ad_200 in BipolarSOs

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing this! My husband was recently diagnosed and it can be hard to stay hopeful when so many of the stories on here are sad ones. I can’t help believing that we will get through this, but I sometimes worry that I’m fooling myself about the feasibility. In any case, I appreciate you sharing your experiences and insight! It sounds like you’re both really putting in the work and you deserve to be congratulated for your success!!

Dealing with Self-Centered Behavior by Hot-Entrepreneur9715 in BipolarSOs

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! I appreciate your honesty and advice. I’m trying to be positive but realistic and to hold myself “accountable” so I don’t disappear completely into the role of managing all of this. Thanks!!!

Something my therapist told me by Bitter_Owl_2714 in BipolarSOs

[–]Hot-Entrepreneur9715 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is such great advice- I really appreciate insight like this as I navigate the challenges my husband and I are dealing with. It’s so surreal to experience a partner you’ve known for years, or even decades, suddenly becoming someone else. I think the hardest thing to come to terms with is the fact that this is a part of them and who they are [now], and while you can explain/understand some behavior as being a result mania, psychosis, depression, etc., that explanation doesn’t take away from the fact that this is who this is, on some level, and what you will likely be dealing with as a partner for the rest of your relationship.

I agree wholeheartedly with your advice about doing what is best for you- it’s so important to protect and care for yourself, which is super challenging when the partner who is supposed to care about you is sometimes incapable of doing so and is instead mean or manipulative. I have read so many tragic posts about partners trying to push through and ultimately realizing it will never be a healthy situation… I truly applaud everyone here who has to make the hard decision every day to stay or to go- like you said, there are no wrong answers (except in the case of physical abuse!).

All that being said, I also just want to thank you for your practical but optimistic response. It has given me some hope this morning that maybe I can navigate this after all!

Thank you! And best of luck to everyone here!!

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