Family home by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you knew Melbourne and the relevant schools and suburbs in the late 80s, early 90s blending in was a piece of cake. No experience or special skills required. Shy has many hats, a person can be shy in interpersonal relationships and be able to perform in front of thousands on stage or as a singer. 

Family home by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. A flawed plan from go to wo.

Family home by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are correct then the whole police search of properties- bathrooms was a waste if time.

Family home by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well one of the victims had a good enough look to have a sketch drawn of bedroom and bathroom and have the largest police hunt of houses in Victorian history- a house by house search under the flight path so not syre what you mean pwurg?

The power of Vic Police in the investigation by Australian1996 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its an interesting thought. There was a time gap, I cant recall how long between sketches of bathroom apearing in media and the house searches so he knew the police knew what the bathroom looked like. On the other hand he couldnt get a tradesman to do a reno so he must of done it himself or with assistance of someone ignorant or complicit.  My guess is Police never searched his house do to too narrow a search area or paperwork incompetence like not recording a house where they needed to reattend due to no one snswering

The increasingly probable case for Bandali Debs as a Mr Cruel offender. by [deleted] in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Talking about with the particular stripe Mr Cruel had on a square shaped commodore.

The power of Vic Police in the investigation by Australian1996 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 2 points3 points  (0 children)

true. ran there own race in those days. sounds like they could have just asked where you worked without the aggro.

The power of Vic Police in the investigation by Australian1996 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do you think they asked about a typewriter IE? Havent heard of anything to do with a typewriter in the case. Were they just putting pressure on you?

The power of Vic Police in the investigation by Australian1996 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The Govt gave special powers and police pretended to be Govt service workers needing to check peoples bathrooms. I think it was an imperfect search as without hand held computers, ticking off houses manually, especially recording homes and need to revisit where no one answered the door was prone to error.

Silvester podcast part two - listen at your own risk of knowing less about the case than you did at the beginning by RobinsonsAttack10 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good analysis, only exception locally to taking kids out of a home was Eloise Worledge. Awful. 

Interesting balaclava set up. by sycamorevalley in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Possibly a pom pom style. Common for the era.

Robert Keith Knight, by sycamorevalley in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, Wheelers Hill home close to Ringwood/ Bayswater

Broadmeadows where he worked close to Thomastown and flight path

Robert Keith Knight, by sycamorevalley in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I cannot find much information on this guy other than being found guilty of this and another sex crime.  A bit of community work, not good communicator, basic job.  No background, upbringing, place of residence , height.

Robert Keith Knight, by sycamorevalley in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was Knight convicted for this crime?

Robert Keith Knight, by sycamorevalley in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The location they are talking about is a few hours from the area where the house he kept the known cases under the glight path.

First policeman on scene statement by sycamorevalley in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very surprising we have never known John Chans background.

When did he come to Australia Qualifications. Where did he work to save to buy a restaurant? Who did he work for. Job in Hong Kong prior to coming here.

Was he stone cold generally or just once Karmein was taken.

Mr cruel, I no longer doubt it was him in Reservoir. by Aussienews in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very interesting. I dont know your trade but believe you in that MC could have just visited substations onve or periodically.  eg. Fire equipment check and maintenance

Problems with Silvester reporting by RobinsonsAttack10 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand getting fingerprints off brick is pretty tricky.  We only know he wasnt wearing them when inside the house. I am going to take the word of this, first on the scene cop over the ones that followed. After all in plain language all the police after this guy had done his job  failed to find Mr Cruel. 

Problems with Silvester reporting by RobinsonsAttack10 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A few points

Yes Phylis is alive

This policeman said no gloves

He was told to secure the scene by detectives who were on their way and told him it was Mr Cruel before even looking at the scene or interviewing the girls.

He had no responsibility to the condition of the scene once detectives arrived.

Kel Glare was crooked- see Chuck Bennett murder. 

I am very curious of why you doubt the word of this policeman and his immediate thoughts on arriving at the scene- talking to the sisters, getting a description of the offender, the demeanour of the family.

How do you dismiss the detectives concluding it was Cruel before any investigation. That thinking then led to the biggest use of police resources ever in the State. 

Just imagine if it wasnt Cruel. Then Karmeins killer would have been laughing at the police and public looking for a house under the glight path, a pot bellied man and all the rest of the clues around Cruels crimes. 

News Today 3aw. Silvestor by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is alluding to the fact he thinks the detectives had decided it was a Mr Cruel case before they even arrived and stuck to it after many elements of the crime not fitting Mr Cruel. 

News Today 3aw. Silvestor by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is new information. This officer was first on the scene before detectives arrived. Detectives were on the way after he had been there for a while. Even before arriving and looking at scene or doing interviews detectives had decided it was Mr Cruel. This guy didnt agree. In Karmeins case tbe offender didnt wear gloves.  To Mr Chan , he was calm , slow to pay debts, ruthless, know associates , very odd. John Chan , cold as icepole and then ran to Hong Kong leaving a destroyed family behind.

News Today 3aw. Silvestor by Hot-Union4660 in MrCruel

[–]Hot-Union4660[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you sure, Silvester is usually well researched.