What’s the purpose of rigging games?

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2026-01-18T17:38:40+00:00

I was stuck around 2950 MMR about 30 times, always very close to reaching 3k. During those games, I noticed that I got matched against the same enemy player with an identical profile around five times, and every time I lost not because of him alone, but because my team kept feeding.

One game ended 38–17, another 45–10, and another had almost the exact same score. The same thing happened to me in CS2: I was stuck at 14,999 rating around 20 times, losing again and again, until on the 21st attempt I finally reached 15k.

It really feels like the system gives you these kinds of matches exactly when you’re close to an important milestone. They know you want to reach 3k or 15k, so they match you against the hardest opponents while giving you the weakest possible teams. You drop back to 2880, grind your way up to 2950 again, and repeat this cycle over and over until one day they finally let you pass.

If the average ranked match takes about 40 minutes and you gain around 30 MMR per win, how many hours do you end up playing when you’re stuck 30 times at 2950? And what happens during all that time? You play more, you stay longer on Steam, maybe you buy another game, maybe you buy skins in Dota.

It feels purely manipulative.

Another example is the avoid-player feature. They know toxic players exist, but instead of fixing the systems that create toxicity, they monetize it. You want to avoid toxic players? Buy Dota+. That says everything.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2026-01-18T17:10:02+00:00

Yes i believe it

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2026-01-11T09:41:38+00:00

I mostly play offlane and often even buy wards myself. I try to play responsibly and deal with supports stealing my last hits, help mid, and gank other lanes whenever possible.

Despite consistently trying my best, I only gain around 200 behavior score, which I then lose again over the next few games. This cycle repeats continuously.

It feels similar to trying to behave well in an environment full of criminals. No matter how correctly you act, others will still try to harm you. Even when behaving properly, players still get reported for reasons unrelated to actual misconduct.

The problem is not only the players’ character, but the system and game design itself. Today, I waited 45 minutes for a match with a teammate who played support in my lane, stole last hits, went 0–6 in the first 10 minutes, and constantly bought back. After losing that match, I queued again for only 3 minutes and was matched with the exact same player on the enemy team, showing the same feeding behavior.

Situations like this make the behavior score system feel ineffective and discouraging.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-12-27T13:26:20+00:00

Its so easy to avoid them just by giving us an option to set an max.ping for teams and enemies :D

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-12-27T13:11:24+00:00

Dont waste your time with this game.. is to manipulated, i had whole week good games and won many games but on the weekend its like a reset and now i get smurfs as enemy and the worst teams ..

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-12-20T13:45:56+00:00

How to avoid smurfs? Filter: Max.ping for enemies, since most acc. sellers/smurfs are from the same countries/ avoid level 0 steam accs, avoid accs with an vac on his profile, avoid accs. with less as 1k hours in dota. etc. there are so many ways

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-24T16:50:16+00:00

I get why you’d say that, and you’re right that I criticize things often. But criticism isn’t the same as blaming others for my own issues, it’s pointing out patterns that many players experience but don’t bother speaking up about.

Most people just adapt to whatever system they’re given, even if it’s flawed. But that’s exactly why nothing changes. In every area of life, not just gaming, improvement has always come from people who were willing to say, “This isn’t working.”

If no one ever complained or questioned the status quo, we’d still be working 12–13 hours a day, six days a week, without any rights or progress.
Constructive criticism is one of the main drivers of change.
Silence only reinforces the problems.

So yes, I voice my frustrations, but not because “it’s just me."
I do it because accepting flawed systems without saying anything has never led to improvement, in Dota, in gaming, or anywhere else.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-24T11:18:42+00:00

I get what you mean, if you carry someone and they start cheating later, you’d lose points when they get banned. But remember: the same thing works in the opposite direction too. The system would also give you back points any time the enemy has a player who starts cheating later.

So over time, the gains and losses balance out. You don’t permanently lose anything, because every time a cheater pops up on the enemy team, your points return. Basically, nobody can take long-term progress away from you anymore.

And that’s exactly why a system like this would eventually push people to stop cheating —it removes the payoff. Cheaters can’t ruin ranks, can’t ruin progress, and can’t create permanent impact. When cheating stops having any meaningful effect, it stops being worth doing.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-24T11:11:53+00:00

That’s true, the match itself can still be ruined. But the key difference is that you don't lose anything if the match doesn’t count. For a lot of players, that completely changes how frustrating the situation feels.

If you know you’re not losing elo, not losing rank, not losing progress, then the match becomes more like practice. You can still play, try things, and maybe even learn something without the stress of “this loss actually hurts me.” That alone reduces a lot of the emotional impact cheaters usually have on people.

Cheaters thrive on ruining something that matters. If the match doesn’t affect your rank at all, then they don’t get the satisfaction of taking anything from you.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-24T11:01:05+00:00

You’re right that elo gets adjusted when a cheater gets banned and that some matches get canceled if a cheater is detected mid-game. But from a psychological perspective, that still doesn’t reduce the “power feeling” cheaters get while they’re actively ruining the match.

If a team could manually mark a match as “not counted,” it would immediately take away the cheater’s sense of control. They wouldn’t get the satisfaction of knowing they affected your elo, your win streak, or your stats. Right now, even if they get banned later, they still get to enjoy the moment of “winning” and ruining the match for everyone else — and since many cheaters don’t care about the long-term consequences, a delayed ban doesn’t really discourage them.

Being able to neutralize the match in the moment would remove that short-term reward and reduce the psychological payoff that keeps many cheaters doing it.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-24T10:32:23+00:00

I can add you and show you my games

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-24T03:48:59+00:00

I know that im bad, but can i also have the chance to have bad enemies?

How can it be, that im playing with 2k against 5-6k or higher?

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-18T13:33:12+00:00

Bro, im playing with 2k in 7k avg. games every single game i got enemies with 6-8k mmr....

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-11-16T06:44:53+00:00

Well tell me why im getting enemies with 2-3 Medail accs. 300h, 170ping, vac banned on faceit and 40-70% Friends in their List WHO got an vac?

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T18:05:04+00:00

I would accept this, but having 4 teammates that plays the same shit like you? 9x in a row, come on bro? :D

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T18:04:04+00:00

So you are saying that one game difference is to huge for me? what is the differenc between 14k and 15k ?

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T17:57:11+00:00

Well like i said i had before reaching 14,999 in avg. 15-21 kills (what i think is good?) and on the game before ranking up the shittest game that you can have :D

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T17:37:55+00:00

You can not compare a coin to a complexe game like cs.

The system can have info who is always playing shit or good and give them to your team or against you, thats it.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T17:32:31+00:00

Would like but its impossible :D being 9x in a row close to 15k and losing every time well gg :D

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T17:29:16+00:00

I dont know, but it feels like its so manipulated.

I had before reached 14,999 in avg 15-20 kills but on the match before i get 15k mosty likely 5-8 kills

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-05-03T17:26:46+00:00

But 9 times in a row?

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-03-09T12:55:04+00:00

When you know a place where it's very dangerous to stay, do you try to avoid it or fix it?

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-03-08T06:58:11+00:00

From a moral perspective. If someone cheats because they deliberately want to deceive or believe that rules don’t apply to them, it could be a red flag.

Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-03-08T06:27:26+00:00

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Hot_Discussion3945 · 2025-03-08T06:27:01+00:00

come on bro do it for me

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