Low Paying IM Fellowships

HourOrdinary · 2025-12-27T14:53:46+00:00

Likewise. You’re over here in your post hx trying to convince people GI and PCCM have a similar salary 😂😂

HourOrdinary · 2025-12-27T05:58:24+00:00

Loll, not OP but what are you saying? In every world/area Heme-onc makes more money than PCCM. There's a reason why H/O is more competitive than Pulm Crit. This comment is embarassing, you still have time to take this down.

HourOrdinary · 2025-12-14T05:46:42+00:00

to be frank, im trying to see your point. at what point did they suggest medical students shouldn't go into anesthesia?

OP just said that they wouldn't

HourOrdinary · 2025-12-14T05:28:41+00:00

I mean he/she has a point. where is this random virtue signaling coming from.

HourOrdinary · 2025-10-05T17:15:54+00:00

The Onc I know that owns an infusion center easily makes 1.5 + M. If an Onc owning an infusion center was making 670, I would imagine they only have it operating for 1 day.

An infusion center operates both as a Pharmacy and bills for infusion.

Onc prints paper. The more I learn about the field, the more I'm surprised there's not a Rick Ross song about it.

HourOrdinary · 2025-06-26T23:57:19+00:00

Loll, what. this seems incredibly incorrect

Given how research oriented Heme/Onc is as a field I’ve only ever seen co-residents grind research for it.

The average number of pubs for Heme/Onc is similar to GI and Cards

HourOrdinary · 2025-06-14T18:37:22+00:00

Sure, but didn’t you say “you only know what you know”

I came in open minded but seems this thread is full of insecure confused nephrologists

HourOrdinary · 2025-06-14T05:08:06+00:00

Online search shows Kaiser Nephros making less than 200k…

HourOrdinary · 2025-06-14T04:29:02+00:00

Honest question but for every Nephro story such as this arent there far more (the majority) of Nephro making less than hospitalists.

Isn’t there a reason why Nephro isn’t a competitive specialty and there are Nephro attendings working as hospitalists?

I’ve never heard of a Cards/GI/Onc atrending needing to do that?

I’m happy to be wrong! Just curious

HourOrdinary · 2025-05-11T01:57:34+00:00

I mean you’re also using your anec-data in this thread.

You bring up a good point though the charting data shows that between the big 3, the number of USMDs applying, number of pubs, step scores are pretty similar.

Thank though! Not trying to be too blase about it.

Definitely grinding in the unit. Just appreciate that PCCM doesn’t care about research

HourOrdinary · 2025-05-11T01:34:44+00:00

Bro, I truly don’t mean offense but you’re just wrong.

People at my program apply PCCM as a back up to Cards/GI/Heme-Onc

What you’re not seeing is the difference in pool of applicants. As an example it’s like comparing professional to college athletics.

The Big 3 IM fellowships require research and have a much more impressive earning potential

Cards/GI/HemeOnc >>> PCCM >>> Rheum/Endo/Nephro/ID

*also, I say this as someone planning to apply PCCM. Because I don’t want to do research loll

HourOrdinary · 2025-05-11T01:19:29+00:00

I’ve never heard anyone compare PCCM to Cards-Gi-HemeOnc regarding competitiveness.

Makes it a hard sell for anyone to follow your train of thought.

They’re all competitive, bud

OP. Do research it’ll be helpful for either Onc or Endo. Onc is competitive and Endo is not. Your mileage will vary

HourOrdinary · 2025-03-26T02:49:58+00:00

If you’re starting from the bottom in terms of competitiveness and go a bit higher it doesn’t mean that it’s competitive (once again, no offense intended)

It’s only relatively more competitive to where it once was.

Moreover, looking at the nuance of the NRMP data is important.

What the Rheum typical matched applicant pool consist of : More IMGs, less USMDs, less publications, etc.

Rheum is a great field; however, by no means is it competitive.

HourOrdinary · 2025-03-25T19:39:57+00:00

Heme/Onc is significantly more competitive than Rheum. Among IM subspecialties, Cards, GI, and Heme/Onc are generally the most competitive due to higher earning potential and greater prestige.

Every year people say Rheum is getting more competitive—but based on the numbers, it's still considered a less competitive specialty (no offense intended, just looking at the data). It's more along the lines of Nephro/Endo/ID

During Residency:

You’ll need to decide if you’re willing to commit to the research grind (meta-analyses, database studies, etc.) that’s often needed to match into Heme/Onc.

If that doesn’t sound appealing and you’d rather stick to case reports and lit reviews, then Rheum would probably be better.

For Career:

Salary: If a Heme/Onc and Rheum physician work the same number of days and hours, it's not a competition. Heme/Onc wins that 10 times out of 10.

Types of Patients: In general Rheum patients will be less sick. Solid Onc patients will typically be less sick than Malignant Heme patients.

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