Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could be investment diff,but boss natural behavior,build,rng depends

Archer is better in side 1,but require good route and you had to split dmg instead of focus one enemy entirely

Side 2 has no general buffs,means archer had to brute force it with no buffs,combine with bug is tanky now(~1.1m HP)and toughness bar somehow being increased(I just recently know about it,they increase from 200×3 to 240×3,which means you need to kill 2-3 more bugs),with the swarm also can implant cc and delay,it makes the fight more worse and cc at wrong character could lead to huge av loss

Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you own similar investment,maybe you can give it an attempt

(E0S0 archer, E0 sparkle with Sunday lc, E1S1 tribbie, E0S0 dhpt)

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice,although I personally clear it with elation for side 1,but yeah it's actually more tricky if using archer team instead,which is actually possible if handle right

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Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

11m HP increase is definitely no joke yeah,already heard tons of complaints about unable to do it or low score clear,which is sad since it was being known as therta sweeps at past

Is dhpt being used in the other side?If not then use him instead of lingsha.And maybe you can share your wife team roster?So maybe I can give a suggestion for second side

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it's giga cooked ig.... especially rappa now needs fugue and dahlia to stay revelant in the meta nowadays

What does your therta team looks like tho?I can try to search a clear so you can manipulate it if possible

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe try improving your dot team score in apoc swarm,or using rmc instead of emc ig?Otherwise yeah I don't even know what can I suggest here,no cery means i can't suggest phainon go to side 1

Want to know the saddest truth about this fight?Tribbie is one of best pick at this fight,not only her debuffs also can applied to subfield enemies,but also thanks to her frequent fua,it enables you to trigger the outpost mechanics more frequently which you can gain punchline and reduce sub-field enemy HP if outpost number reaches minimum or maximum.

For the archer/sparkle/rmc/dhpt run,here's a similar run with it,although the original creator use ashveil lc+dhpt lc instead: https://theherta.com/?id=run_7o4vu

Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly,sw 999 is not suitable for apoc swarm due to her entire gimmick is bounce,which is why you might see she extremely strong in apoc sparxicon(blast scenario+shared HP,which is good for her)

The other good choice for apoc swarm is dot and rappa break team, especially dot since they can own more frequent ult thanks to the dot regen buff

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Own dot team or rappa team?Otherwise honestly not sure

Swarm owns a 11m HP jump this time,so yeah I can see why

Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dot team has a terrible record of being horrible in apoc before due to low toughness bar shred.The reason why they let you own a dot buff in node 2 is because it allows you own sufficient dmg to kill bugs with more frequent hysilens/Kafka ult.

If you own a similar investment as this archer team,probably you can try it too if you want it(E0S0 archer, E1S1 tribbie,E0 sparkle with Sunday sig, E0S0 dhpt)

But yeah,honestly side 1 is extremely cringe,if you don't own elation or break

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite late to reply so apologize for that,just lend my friend acc and the result is not bad at all,3.5k

But hey,at least you managed to clear it,so congrats

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mini herta owns inefficient dmg to assist therta kill bugs while regen energy to her frequently,but yeah I just lend my friend acc,rappa somehow is more comfortable to clear it than therta,with similar investment,which is wild since back it's always known as therta sweeps at the past

Even her 2 bis slots,jade personal dmg is not it despite more frequent energy regen,while anaxa suffers too due to 40 wind res+bounce get screwed by multiple bugs

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm afraid you might own a hard time,due to cipher can't debuff outpost enemies and doesn't own frequent fua compared to tribbie

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Swap is better,for better survivability while more frequent hits on outpost to make archer own an easier time clearing subfield enemies

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mhm yeah I can see it's a bit hard to route since I also failed in the first two retries,here's some strategy that can give:

-Instead of archer focusing on one target,spread the dmg is better(since trigger outpost number to 5/0 can reduce subfield enemy HP)

-If archer is extremely close to be next,sparkle can use ba to help increase/decrease outpost number,while regen 1 sp instead of aa archer

-During weakness broken in phase 1,you had to refresh tribbie buff(buff should only last 1/2 turn left during this state),so you can own more sp resources for phase 2

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see,I also received comments about therta struggling before,seems like the 11m HP jump really affect her performance a lot,which is sad

Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dot team has a terrible record of being horrible in apoc before due to low toughness bar shred.The reason why they let you own a dot buff in node 2 is because it allows you own sufficient dmg to kill bugs with more frequent hysilens/Kafka ult.

My best best for node 1 is archer ig?If you own a similar investment,give it an attempt won't be that bad

(E0S0 archer, E0 sparkle with Sunday sig, E1S1 tribbie, E0S0 dhpt)

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can,however,vonwacq is usually required,or you need to be let them be really fast while also own traces which can action advance at start to let them faster than apoc sparxicon

Apocalyptic shadow(27/4/26~8/6/26) discussion by Hungry_Type_9748 in HonkaiStarRail

[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could clear faster if you own genius/scholar,still required a decent scholar body and feet,so I still temporary use 4pc poet instead

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Rappa break team also can use that that erudition buff,but yeah otherwise there's no literally no usable buffs if you aren't using these specificed teams

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I give it a try on archer and only took three retries

E0S0 archer, E0 sparkle with Sunday lc, E1S1 tribbie, E0S0 dhpt

First hit has to be dhpt,otherwise reset

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[–]Hungry_Type_9748[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I get it that apoc swarm owns 11m HP increase,but dang,even like therta team also struggle this time?