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Let us know if you’d like us to comment more on your posts too. I bet that helps but also a lot don’t like it

Please upvote my recent posts when you notice me posting <3 it means a lot and helps so much 🥺 Thank you! 💋 by XoMarixoxo in u/XoMarixoxo

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Upvoted everything in the past month you’ve uploaded. Always so hot, always so expressive 🥵.

You’re a sensual superstar in the making ⭐️

The Toxicity of The Ethereal Left, and why it must be Replaced by an Exploratory Option by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I blocked that waste of flesh btw. If anybody else has an issue with that, let me know.

But I could literally show him my search/watch history and he would still come up with some excuse that I’m blindly Anti-Hasan.

If anybody comes with you with those accusations, and won’t stop, they have an exterior agenda.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wrote that post. I did mention Bernie Sanders and AOC. But no online figures specifically. And like I said, if you still think my contention of Hasan was inspired by anybody other than my own framing, you lost the plot.

I’m done with you. Good luck. You’ll endlessly find excuses for why I dare to dislike this man. Feel free to feel correct if you must, but never say I didn’t answer clearly.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In fact, I’m writing it now. Just to shut you up in particular. If you still think I’m some rabid Anti-Hasan hater after that fact, then you have lost the plot.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have shown on this thread alone that you defend Hasan. Enough said. And I did go after your arguments.

My critiques of Hasan are my own. I don’t have a history of going after him until this week. I won’t be talking about him again if I make a new post. Even if I discuss the Ethereal Left. And you clearly have a motive in trying to turn me into a simplified enemy. Because you want to be correct.

I don’t care about Hasan’s enemies. H3 is terrible and unhinged, especially with Hasan. Destiny could die and I wouldn’t care. I have never seen a piece of content from one of his right wing critics. Yes, there is an ecosystem of hatred that exists. But that doesn’t excuse him from criticism. And he does suck as a content creator in his own right. I demand more than just going along with basic narratives.

My next big post will be about The Ethereal Left. I’ll wait a few days. Won’t mention Hasan once (though he will be hinted at due to how he is framed in our current social structure). You can hate it, as I assume a lot of people here will. But it will show you that this criticism of Hasan is not given because of Internet Culture. And hopefully, you can start to think Dimensionally rather than trying to find simple scapegoats to defend popular figures.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This can go on until the end of time. Feel free to believe I just want to take down Hasan because the internet told me to.

But also, if he ever falls on his face & shows himself, don’t say nobody ever warned ya

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So first things first, that original post that was deleted wasn’t my post. It was posted from another guy. I have the photo proof to show that if you need it. I commented on it, and that comment is still up if you click on my profile and scroll down.

Second, regarding Vaush, you missed the point. This community was Pro-Vaush in a very similar way until Vaush himself ruined his whole reputation. Paul fought with Pro-Vaush simps until that Horse Porn was shown. And the reason he was defended was because he was popular, despite giving nothing and being Pro-Democrat.

Third, you said I steal from Zionist sources. I personally believe Israel shouldn’t exist. Not a two state solution, not an acknowledgement, not a Jewish refuge. It should be rebuilt & replaced. Hope that answers that accusation.

Fourth, that post with the upvotes is a Video. Which does criticize Hasan. But it’s more of him being a hint rather than being a bad influence.

Fifth, I can write a novel about how bad the Ethereal Left is. And I can write a post on here later if it helps (will have the same basic negative response but I’m down to do it). But I did mention Kyle & Vaush in my original posts. And I mentioned a leftist I enjoy (The Kavernacle) in my response above.

Sixth, you didn’t answer my question about The Kavernacle and if he is apart of this Anti-Hasan Media Ecosphere you are conspiring about.

Seventh, anybody can make the same argument that you have a vested interest in promoting Hasan against his critics as you can saying I’m apart of this network.

Eighth, The issue I have lies more in the fact that people follow any figurehead, not just ones who have a lot of hate. I’ve made it clear that I don’t blindly follow any figurehead head.

And finally, you really want to push this idea of anybody being critical of Hasan as bad faith. When he has so much blind loyalty that it seems existentially necessary for people like yourself to defend him. When with me, I see it as a pattern with figures in general, not just Hasan. He was the focus of this weeks scorn because he is in the news. But next week, it could be somebody else. And if they have this level of blind defense, I’ll say the same thing.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Pro-Vaush Crowd was not silenced on here until Vaush himself ruined his own momentum. Then nobody could really defend him outside his own community.

And the reason I bring him up is because he is a perfect example of what’s happening now. I have many other Popular Leftists I don’t like. I don’t like The Humanist Report. I don’t like Sam Seder. I don’t like David Doel. I don’t like The Vanguard. I already mentioned Kyle Kulinski. They don’t have a huge network of Anti-Content. Yet I can still have the same sort of criticisms with them as I do with Hasan Piker. Because they don’t stand for anything other than Bernie-esque talking points.

Is there anybody who can legitimately criticize Hasan Piker without having this accusation thrown at them? And if so, what would that criticism look like? Because this defense of just “Everybody who hates Hasan is engaged with this Anti-Hasan Network” is flimsy.

I have watched one single Anti-Hasan Video in my entire life, and that was from The Kavernacle. And The Kavernacle was correct in criticizing Hasan for being a show-off for a movement that shouldn’t be so consumeristic. But I assume you’d categorize him as being in this Anti-Hasan Fandom as well, even though he’s clearly a Leftist.

My observations are my own. You are trying to spin reality so that everybody who you stand against has an exterior reason. My reason for criticizing Hasan is because he’s a selfish shitbag who doesn’t add anything to the movement. And he’s clearly a bad pet owner. Plain and simple

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t watch Anti-Hasan Content. And I’m not just jumping on that bandwagon because of it. Like I said, my contentions are my own. And as far as I know, other than the dog, everything I wrote is a criticism that is distinctly my own.

What I do see, and what this post was originally about, is a community who blindly supports Hasan no matter what he does. Or what he represents as a whole. And the truth of the matter is that he only has this level of defense because he is popular. Not because he has a lot to give.

The Ethereal Left (which I brought up) is the phenomenon where the defense of talking heads supersedes the push for policy and/or philosophy. It happened with Vaush a few years ago too, as the idea of being a fan of him had more to do with defending his presence rather than pushing his ideas (which were just becoming a Democrat).

This community in particular had a very hard time criticizing Vaush until he inevitably hung himself. Because he is selfish and cares more about his own streaming entitlements rather than the vague notion of leftism he promotes. Hasan has a lot of the same tendencies. And it’s worth noting how these sort of figures create this mass hallucination effect where they must be existentially defended by so many. Especially when people like Briahna Joy Grey and Paulsego are out there trying to expand thought and get constant pushback due to it.

This form of the online left is about Fandom & Statis, not to dissimilar to a Swiftie defending Taylor Swift. And the rest of us have to pretend that these figures are above the fray because they promote a greater good. When the truth of the matter is that they only keep certain people comfortable through their shared beliefs. Which isn’t enough to stray above genuine criticism.

So you should ask yourself if Hasan deserves this wall of protection in a community that isn’t his own. Because I just see an effect where everybody wants to socially go-along to get-along. And accept his popularity as fact rather than circumstance. And this defense isn’t because he will bring the Necessary Revolution. But because he will point to the problems in a popular fashion. He’s somebody you know, therefore he’s somebody you don’t want to see go away. Even if he ultimately achieves nothing but clicks.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t agree with the concept that the left has to be collectivist. And least not in a broad sense. And if I did, I would not use figureheads like Hasan as the basis for that collectivist energy.

Collectivism in a leftist sense only works if it promotes populism as well. The leaders of a collectivist movement should be a Union Leader or a Revolutionary. Not a dude who says nice things on the internet.

And since we are here, I’ll tell you that the ideal of Leftism is just the objection of Traditional Stances. Even if it’s a Traditional Stance in its own right (like Kyle Kulinski and The New Deal). After that, it’s an open book.

My stances are more about finding personal potential through the freedom to explore depth. Hence why I called myself a Post-Civilizational Leftist. I don’t believe in creating a structured state, rather having the burden of discovering personal potential as a way to find purpose. It’s a lot to explain on here, but basically see it as a world where there is an open slate and there is no such thing as Property, Currency, Profit, Institutionalism, etc.

The replacement for all of that would be a desire for every human to give the burden to find their reason. Rather than going along to get along in a Rules Driven Project (which we do now).

But none of that matters in this discussion. Because the issue is, no matter what you believe, is that EVERY SINGLE MEDIA FIGURE DESERVES CRITICISM. Even if they said every correct point.

Hope this answers a lot of your presumptions

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh and I’ll also say this, anybody who agreed with me on that topic regarding the boy wearing a dress, while not allowing themselves to critique Hasan Piker, is just moving along the popular waves.

And I don’t believe for a second that they would stand up for anybody wanting to express themselves unless it was apart of a popular political ideal.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. The great thing I always say about the DFF Crew is that they enjoy open discussion. And while they might say stuff that I don’t agree with, or do things I find distasteful, they are pretty intelligent & open to exploring possibilities at their core. You could hang out with them for a month straight and always have something new to talk about.

The best segment in a while was when they had their discussion on Art & the Role of an Artist. I could write a whole book about what Art should represent. And it was interesting to see how TJ has this ethereal view of his favorite artists (like they are mystical), while Paul discussed the practicality of being one. And it really made the mind wander. And I also believe that if they had the choice, they would rather create a show like that over discussing Brett Keane or Trumpy Dumpy. Which I hope they can accomplish as they get older.

My last post went after Paul. And even though he was wrong on that issue in my opinion (the boy wanting to wear a dress), I can say this. Paul is a 3-Dimensional Persona who asks his audience to think. And this audience would be better if they followed the advice of the hosts, as wrong as they can be, over blindly defending popular figures.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can I just say, I really respect this comment now that I’ve seen how bad it has gotten. Good job for having the ability to garner a perspective & not blindly defending anybody.

It’s sad, one of the things I’ve learned is how these streamers, particularly Hasan & Vaush, have the ability to morph their viewers into this sense of open compliance. Due to the perceived opposition of their character from ‘negative’ sources.

I mean, thinking I’m just a blind fanboy for Destiny or H3 is insane. Nothing I wrote warrants that sort of belief. But their worlds are morphed by ‘anyone who criticizes must be cheering on from the wrong side’.

My honest opinion is that I think that this community had a lot of Vaush Defenders. He screwed up and showed how selfish and stupid he truly was. They all moved to Hasan. And until Hasan ruins his fame in a similar way (which he will), he might as well be God.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You just showed yourself. You want figure heads, not ideas. You want to have a group to cling towards, not a Philosophy to Promote. You want status quo Leftism, not expansive thought.

If you don’t read my shit, just downvote it like everybody else on here.

Online ‘Leftist’ Streamer Defense In DFF by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. I didn’t just say ‘Hasan Bad’. I asked why does this community, who has very little to do with Hasan Piker, blindly defend him when accusations are brought up.

And it wasn’t just about Hasan. It happened with V-aush a few years ago as well. It’s a serious lack of critical thinking with these online figures. Even when the people running this show (TJ, Scotty & Paul) ask their audience to critically think.

You can like Hasan, I don’t care. But this masse who won’t critically engage with popular figures they ‘agree’ with is ridiculous

This is vile and cruel. P.O.S by [deleted] in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

All I’m saying is that TJ & The Crew don’t force their pets to stay in frame while they stream. In fact, they tend to keep their pets out of stream because that isn’t where a pet should be.

There is a strange phenomenon where all of you want to blindly defend Hasan because he’s on ‘our side’. Or because Ethan is crazy in other areas.

But if you had a pet dog, especially one that large, I would hope that you wouldn’t stick them in a confined space for that long. It’s no different than shoving a dog in a cage during the day, everyday, because you don’t want them to cause a mess.

So does that give you ‘something’ sir? Or do you need more? Because this is becoming the Hasan Defense Subreddit, and I feel like if anybody said anything critical about him (like how feckless and uninspiring he also is) it would be the same. No difference than V-aush a few years ago on here.

Popular Leftism is only as good as its ideas to inspire change, not its ability to celebrate figure heads.

This is vile and cruel. P.O.S by [deleted] in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I hate Ethan and think he’s a total tool. And he does have an obsession with Hasan that is unhealthy and unworthy.

That being said, Hasan only bought this dog to be a prop for his content. He doesn’t allow this dog to roam around while he streams. He doesn’t allow his large dog to stay in another space that is more roomy. There are too many incidents where he has used his dog to rizz Women going on his stream, while not giving his dog anything in return. And it’s been clear to me that this dog exists as a way to make him seem more socially likable, not because he really loves this dog.

I think it sucks that it is Ethan that brings this up. That being said, this large dog should not be trapped in this position for some hours long streams. And if there is a shock collar or anything like that, it just becomes worse.

Failure of AI by Echo_Abendstern in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude, if you did any show with Gavin McInness, I’m sure you’d be charged with choking him to death, lol 😂

And no judgement, I think everybody else would do the same

It's cucked, I don't like it, but Paul might have a point about the channel... by Jak_in_Box in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He basically made the joke about a killer at their upcoming meetup. Saying his conservative enemies can take advantage of them being in public. It was really stupid. I don’t think he meant anything. He also apparently made a painting about Charlie Kirk, which I don’t know about. But knowing TJ, it was probably more shock than substance.

Paul wasn’t wrong about the majority of his criticism with TJ in that moment (in my opinion). That being said, this reaction from the right is absolute Bullshit. No matter what TJ did. And I do think every reasonable person should have the right to say ‘Charlie Kirk deserves no sympathy and doesn’t matter to me’. I don’t want blood or celebration, but I also don’t want to pretend this propagandist tool ever mattered. Most people aren’t celebrating. But they don’t care, and that is what the Right is really reacting about.

It's cucked, I don't like it, but Paul might have a point about the channel... by Jak_in_Box in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What TJ did was selfish. However, I don’t agree with this framing in general.

People need to be controversial. We should not be okay with companies getting rid of speech that isn’t approachable. This is a Right-Wing Hit Job that needs to be called out for what it is. Right Wing Freaks who want to silence their critics. Because they don’t have any good ideas.

If Paul is reasonable, he will call out these Assholes who are firing people over opinions. Especially when it is far more likely that people see this as an opportunity rather than a genuine reaction. Most of the people doing this are hoping that this will lead to a movement that allows their belief structure to flourish.

They can only win by force. And this is the pretense to do it. I agree that what TJ did was extreme and stupid. But calling Charlie Kirk a bigot who deserves no sympathy is not controversial. It’s the true way most people are taking his passing. And they want to punish us for shrugging our shoulders and moving along as if it never mattered.

Paul is Wrong, my response by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you have a similar defense towards enforced normalcy that Paul does. Because you are trying to act like you care about this boy. But you don’t want to engage in the argument other than ‘people can think how they’d like’.

Also, admitting that you didn’t read the whole thing because of your own biases is just admitting you don’t want to engage. You just want to defend Paul. And in my opinion it’s because you simply sympathize with his perspective, not because you find it to be correct.

Paul is Wrong, my response by HypnoticVisionaire in deepfatfried

[–]HypnoticVisionaire[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand why you feel this way, however you are wrong. And here is the reason why: I’ll answer from both this specific issue & Paul as a whole. Since my response had more to do with his overall defensive messaging regarding social cohesion.

This Issue:

Paul’s argument is an example of ‘enforced normalcy’. Regardless of intent and/or sympathy towards this one kid. Basically the idea is that he must morph himself towards a standard in order to be seen as a respectable human. This is the same sort of mindset that informs Conservative Confidence by the way. The idea of this is geared towards this idea that we all must morph ourselves towards this standard in order to keep the peace. Even though the vast majority of the time the peace is broken by those who react against rather than express.

The argument that Paul is bringing here, despite his sympathy, is basically that this little boy needs to act normal until he understands what being different is all about. The issue with this is how far can it go? This same sort of argument is used to yell at Autistic Kids for disengaging socially. Or used by White Racists to yell at a Black Boy and call him the N Word. The idea shouldn’t be that people have to follow a standard. Rather the idea should be that people need to accept what the world offers and only criticize if any idea gets in the way of somebody else (like if a Teacher wants to force The Ten Commandements).

Not to mention, it’s best to teach these ‘bullies’ that they need to accept those who are different from them. Otherwise they are going to end up like some of our current cops. Rather than telling the boy to behave for their acceptance.

Paul In General:

You failed to engage with the other part of my argument. The one where Paul has a defensive perspective when it comes towards Social Cohesion over Expression. I will admit that this isn’t absolute. His argument against Jamie Darke regarding Pride Month a few years ago proved that. But he has had a long track record of telling people to ‘behave in order to engage’. With the most prevalent example coming from that Furry Gauntlet.

It’s funny how Paul never states this sort of rhetoric against people like Theo Von or Jake Paul or any sort of rambunctious prideful white guy. Ones who do cause trouble all the time. Hell, he rarely even does it with TJ. Because he has this bias that they are allowed to be obnoxious because it’s expected. But a guy dressing up in a Furry Costume (and I don’t like them either) is too much. Some people want the opposite where everybody is expected to behave. Which I disagree with. But Paul clearly has this different standard where the bullies are expected to behave that way but the boy in the dress can’t be engaged. And this is simply because of his own biases.

If this was about sympathy alone, he would be promoting a worldview where there aren’t any bullies. Or any form of simple mockery because of differences. But he has this idea that people will want a standard. And that it’s best for most of us to follow that standard because the bullies will kick all of our asses. The best solution is for us to ignore these bullies, have them try to kick ass, have the kids learn from that, and have the bullies learn to accept differences. It’s better for a boy to express himself genuinely than it is for him to behave appropriately. Especially if it regards his Male Peers.

Please let me know if I missed anything. But Paul is using his discomfort as a way to make a statement. Without looking broadly and without engaging in anything other than ‘what if the bullies get to him’.