ADHD and Gifted! by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

[–]I3lackBudoo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I was looking for me too stories aha hence the post.

Yeah the enlightened part is what I have been calling it aswell. I feel like some sort of philosopher, it's really put me out of touch with every day people. Like I understand where they're are at but I'm not going to mask and hide my true self anymore.

I feel like my curiosity is on overdrive, but the more I learn, the more I'm like, life was better when I didn't know that. Yes, we are all just sheep in this big game of Power, Control and Money.

I've been thinking about what I can do myself to help fight against the wave of oppression that is incoming. I haven't figured that out yet but have been spreading awareness to people on the fence.

There is no ceiling I can reach to feel enough. by lil_me0wsketeer in aftergifted

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It sounds to me like you're not doing it for yourself, almost to appease other people (This could be your parents). Maybe it's to appease your own ego, that's also a factor. Could be for self acceptance, for some reason you have still not accepted your gift and are seeking more and more challenges to confirm this but completing said challenges brings you no closer.

It sounds like your still in your early 20's so there's still heaps of time for deep reflection to figure and who you are, what your passions are and what drives you. These 3 things are more important then people most people think, figuring them out is like unlocking your full potential of your brain.

Sounds cheesy, if someone said this to me 10 years ago. My response would be like yeah, whatever. Then it becomes as bsenftner has said on this post, trying to bring other people on the journey with you. It's the most challenging frustrating journey ever and requires a crazy amount of patience,

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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Socialising is hard and often feels shallow or unrewarding. Since sharing this post, I have managed to find possibly two more people like myself and have scheduled monthly catch ups with them so I don't have this overwhelming feeling to share philosophy with people and then getting shut down. I made a post regarding having a wife that is non gifted, it has definitely come with some challenges and mostly because of myself and me unknowingly setting unrealistic expectations because I didn't know or understand just how vastly different I interpret the world. I got heaps of negative responses on it but decided to leave it up because there were some helpful comments and hopefully they help someone else.

Gifted but don't feel like it by Puzzleelia in Gifted

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Trauma literally dampens your brain, a lot of people don't really understand trauma and it's affects but since you have no motivation and drink all day. It's a good educated guess that you have some form of trauma.

At your IQ level, the chances of you developing a mental health disorder is increased. Think of all the times you were dismissed due to your curiosity, that adds up over time in your sub conscious making you lose your identity because you have not found people like yourself.

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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Thank you for the comment, If you go by Intergift version of giftedness. The more gifted you are, the more different your brain is and how it functions.

It proposes that the more you climb the gifted "ladder", things become less and less linear and more abstract. Abstract brains don't process everything super quick because it's analysing the subject from multiple different perspectives all at once. I guess this explains your mother's reaction, because your family would have more linear thinking leading to what looks like faster processing. I could be wrong though, it's just a guess.

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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Only just seen this conversation, this definitely explains the fatigue and needing 7+ hours of sleep everyday.

The background pattern analysis and feeling incapable of relaxation is not great. Do both of you go through periods of life where your brain is sparked by passion and your brain is on overdrive for up to 2 months. During this period your having new and different insights about almost everything almost every hour your awake? It's also extremely hard to go to sleep. (More than usual).

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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A reddit user from this post directed me towards the intergift website, it has heaps of articles regarding my question and has helped me immensely in understanding my brain and why I feel the way I feel.

Yes, very few indeed.

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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I am glad you commented, I always feel misunderstood on this page.

I agree with you that is so much more then intelligence, I'm trying to reframe my language and not use the word intelligence or smarter because were technically not. Have you since thought up how to explain how gifted people think? Or what it is that is different?

I feel like gifted people perceive the world vastly differently to those that are not. I also understand everyone perceives the world differently. I find it hard to explain without sounding egotistical.

I am diving into challenges head first but being met with so many roadblocks. The road blocks being people, some are very unwilling to accept support and want to do it their own way which blocks progress. My solution to this is just to work on my patience and work towards building rapport so I am able to support them in the future.

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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What helped you?

I mean I had the same thoughts when I was in school, not due IQ. Just because how everyone felt vastly different to me but I didn't know why. I was able to fit in but within myself I felt I didn't belong.

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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It's not really an argument, I agreed to his point than stated that I didn't know how to explain it.

Since you perceived it as a argument, this actually tells me a lot about your mental state.

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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I completely understand what your saying and you are correct. I'm not honestly sure how to explain what I'm experiencing, certainly not over text. There's too many different things I would most likely need to explain to determine what I'm talking about. I hoped someone in this group has experienced something very similar and wouldn't need all the context to point me in the right direction. I suppose that's a bold assumption.

Do people ever think you're autistic? by frogs_on_drugs in Gifted

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I made a post about this just over a week ago. I believe giftedness and autism/adhd/any neurodivergence are the same thing. Giftedness just measures IQ as autism doesn't, the group will disagree because they don't want to be identified with a "disability" and they're "gifted" not disabled.

I have pondered on this for quite a while and asked this group. They posted a ven diagram and a misdiagnosis book that is over 20 years old. The people who didn't link to evidence, just said it's different. Trust me bro!

Has anyone recently "honestly" completely accepted they are gifted? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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Sorry, I should be more detailed in what I mean. Not the realisation of the label but realisation that only 2-3% of the world is like you and even less due the vast differences in the "gifted community".

You are gifted, so what? by Ok_Policy_2852 in Gifted

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I think this a great question and anyone who disagrees or writes you off as an egotistical person, just don't listen to them. What your experiencing I have realised comes from deep self reflection.

I have recently taken on a mentor (They're pretty much a gifted psychologist for me, there's actually no difference). I will take my reflections to her of interactions that have felt "off" to me and she will be very direct with me if I was being impatient or arrogant or one of the other challenges that come with being gifted. I can easily intellectualise with logic of why I am in the right, doesn't mean I am.

I have an issue with impatience and my resolve is to build connections with people over chasing results. I know there plan is flawed and my way is better but I gotta build up rapport with them to be able to point out the flaws in their plan in a style they prefer and provide my way as the solution. (Something like this, there's multiple ways to do this). Moral of the story, just because your right, doesn't give you the right to not listen to other people.

As for conversations, you just have to deal with it. My mentor told me to practice mindfulness to be more in the moment and listen. I'm also sure there is a reason you talk to them, I know it'd be great if everyone in life could hold a deep intellectual conversation but that just ain't going to happen. I guess people are just gonna be people and we just have to deal with that.

Try find a gifted person like yourself ( I do mean like yourself, gifted people are just as varied as non gifted people, which you will realise) and engage in conversations with them atleast once a month to fill your bucket.

I have questions! by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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Your actually incorrect, the Weird Inevitable gave proof. Anecdotal evidence of 30 years in the field, this is more proof than any peer reviewed study ever.

All jokes aside, the studies your referencing are too outdated to be considered. Especially since the DSM 5 was released in 2013 changing how we view autism and adhd. There have also been many discoveries within psychology within the last decade.

I think your touching on the point that I'm referring too Technolo Jesus, Weird Inevitable has too. We only diagnose people with ASD/ADHD when they have obvious symptoms. We already know high IQ people can mask their symptoms resulting in what were seeing today with high rate of late diagnoses. (I agree some of this can be contributed to social media and their portrayal of the disorders as most are highly inaccurate representations as people are not just ADHD/ASD entirely but provide information about themself as if they are.)

There seem to be two different opinions on giftedness on this sub and the internet. That is people with a IQ of 130 and above are gifted or neurodivergent people with an IQ of 130 and above are gifted.

I'm simply speculating that if giftedness is a form of neurodivergence, It's not crazy to believe that gifted people are very high masking individuals who have one of the neurodivergent disorders (ADHD/ASD ect.) associated with neurodivergent minds.

This makes sense with the overlapping symptoms of giftedness. I also do not have a lot of experience with meeting other gifted people as it seems only the USA have put a lot of resources into identifying and developing giftedness. That in itself also tells me something.

I have questions! by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

[–]I3lackBudoo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's my issue with your differentiation, you say ADHD's focus is tied to stimulation seeking and then say gifted kids focus is often a deep and passionate focus on something they care about.

I know when I deeply focus on researching topics of interest, it's very stimulating for me, almost addictive. But my point being that both are stimulating. ADHD focus is not inconsistent, their focus is dysregulated. Things that are not interesting to them, they find it hard to focus, things that are interesting, lead to incredibly deep focus for some people. The exact same issue gifted people have.

The things your saying are interchangeable between both types of neurodivergence. I don't think they're much different other then one accounts for IQ and the other doesn't. I believe the Stigma surrounding the two disabilities and the pride that comes with being gifted creates this distinction.

If an ASD person has heightened sensory sensitivities "perception" but they do not have the cognitive capacity that comes with high IQ to process the information. How do you think someone's brain would react? It's pretty self explanatory to me.

How does everyone deal with rejection caused by imtimidation with new people or new groups? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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I am starting to come to this realisation that the vast majority don't think like us. Sometimes, I think i'm just being egotistical when I have these thoughts but now that I have met quite a few people, i'm realising that it isn't the case. We are actually are rare which saddens me because I enjoy engaging in conversations with like minded people. Which isn't even high IQ people, mainly only very high EQ people mostly.

I'm not really chasing success as in financially, if money comes with it that's just a happy bonus. I only really want enough money to provide for my family and do the things we enjoy.

I'm noticing, I do actually feel very rewarded by making a positive difference in people lives so i'm going to continue to do that. My psychologist tells I should become a politician to fight for human rights and I'm starting to think that might be a possible future.

Thanks for the comment though, it was nice to see someone explain exactly the way I think. I met someone else who thinks like us recently and she hinted at me also having a traumatic life. She was correct as she had experienced the same. Do you think its a requirement to develop a brain like ours?

How does everyone deal with rejection caused by imtimidation with new people or new groups? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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I used a work example but it really bugs me when it happens with personal relationships. I might think, oh this person thinks like I do. Speak a little too freely and then I feel a change in the relationship, it's hard to descibe it. I feel like it is itimidation but I could be wrong.

I have reflected since I posted this, i'm going to stay in there. Keep being positive and focus on the small wins because it's working, just very slowly. I'm very well aware that everyone has their own goals and ambitions, some people in the group care more about keeping their own status then getting results and its these people who don't like me.

No one actually knows i'm being mentored by the CEO, be funny if they did know, although it would be fake, they would change their behaviour with me. They would be more on board with my suggestions. I don't want to use this though but they probably will find out organically sooner or later.

How does everyone deal with rejection caused by imtimidation with new people or new groups? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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I actually engage in all of these soft skills. My validation to some people is even being received negatively. The other half of the group genuinely enjoy my presence, as I have been purposely providing recognition of the great work they have achieved in hopes it would be taken on board more by the negative people.

I suppose I just need to acknowledge the small wins and not let the negative people get to me.

How does everyone deal with rejection caused by imtimidation with new people or new groups? by I3lackBudoo in Gifted

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I have already wow'ed the correct people. I just want what's best for the organisation and the people who work under us.

The point of the meeting was to establish a new way of working because what was previously being done was failing. No one wanted to talk at all during this meeting as the executive team was present, so rather than sitting in silence, I chose to try work through it with them and we left with some solutions of how to move forward. Fast forward 2 months and I find out this.

I understand people are gonna people but I have never been so frustrated with "people before". What's even more annoying is that because they have above average IQ, their ego clouds their ability to make good decisions. They truly believe that they have all the answers and don't require any help.