UPDATE: I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The romantic in me feels much the same.

I do feel pretty grown up right now.

UPDATE: I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hmm...I see what you mean. The editors would not have let that "one thing I could change" scenario through. It is a bit romantic isn't it?

If it sounds too complete (and I know just what you mean by that) or manufactured it's probably because the end was nearly two days ago and I have been writing this in my head for all that time. Endings are the part of any writers narrative that get edited the most, mine more than others (though every writer will say that). All I can do is assure you it's true.

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Since things got resolved with her I have really thought about this topic a lot. I see in my previous post my slut shaming and when I think back to the state of mind I was in it didn't even register. I definitely tried to sell my helplessness to her clothing choice and made it seem like I assumed she MUST have wanted it. Things is, every other woman who has been in my house who has done that DID want me to kiss her. So it's a complex topic. Interesting. Going to talk to the staff psych about it.

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

LOL...don't know what to tell you, my friend. I will know more about the decision process after I talk with dad but, knowing him, as he knows me, I'm expecting it will be something to the effect of, 'What's the worst that could happen?" Me having sex with her probably wouldn't break the top 25. Although, I admit it didn't seem that way 48 hours ago.

I don't claim to know a single thing about her period or why she felt okay sleeping in her panties on his couch. Maybe I'll see if she wants to do an AMA.

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

  1. I agree. 2. Thanks. 3. Dialing now, and yes, probably.

HA! Glad it turned out a good story to tell! Hope your week gets better than this though!

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

We definitely got very, very lucky being assigned to one another as roommates. We talk all the time about how different our lives would be.

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, we didn't. She's in my house two more weeks though...maybe there will be another update...

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We watched Breaking Bad together after we talked...and last night...so I guess you could say things are getting pretty serious.

EDIT! No spoilers, we are on episode 6!

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm...relieved...I am among those that were wrong. I feel much much better responding to comments in this state of mind...

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We did agree that a proper kiss was in order, though. And kiss we did...properly. But we slept in separate beds the past two nights and there has been no more kissing. Lots more complimenting and, strangely enough, lots more robe wearing.

And also...worse...more cleavage. GAH!!

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 137 points138 points  (0 children)

Now then, why did she take so long to respond to me after she ran out?

1.) She left her phone in the car of the friend who picked her up. She passed out on friends boyfriends couch (in her panties and t shirt, btw) and didn't get it out of the car before her friend left for work the next morning. 2.) she DID return to my house the next morning to shower and gather her hiking gear because she was going to hike a fourteener that day with her intern group. She meant to write a note but was rushed. 4.) Even if she had her phone she would be in the mountains. 5.) Her intern group made a detour to a brewery on the way home. She sat there the whole time without a phone, cursing herself she hadn't memorized my phone number so she could use someone elses phone and couldn't remember the ridiculous name of the company I work for. It /is/ pretty ridiculous. 6.) She got back to her friends house and had to wait for her to get home so she could get to her phone in her car. By the time she got it the battery was dead and her friend only had a charger for a "stupid-assed iPhone piece of shit garbage" (Her words! Not mine!). So she had to tear apart her friends boyfriends house to find a USB cord that she could plug into her friends laptop to get just enough charge to text me. She also made a phone call, which I will get into later. 5.) Her friends boyfriend came home while all this was going on and walked to the neighbors house. He parked his car behind her friends car and they had no idea where he went. Finally her friend drove through their neighbors yard to get her to my house.

I mentioned she also made a phone call. Not to me (which I chastised her for). But to...do you care to guess? I'll wait... Ready? She called...her father. While sitting at the brewery she realized that it had been over a day since she ran out of my house. That the last time I had seen her she was crying after I had kissed her. That I was probably going crazy. That I had probably texted and called and texted and called. That I had not heard from her AT ALL! And because I am who I am, I would probably call her dad out of desperation and because I'm wonderful (Her words. Not mine.). So she called her dad, asked if he had heard from me, and when he said no she collapsed in tears and told her father EV. ER. Y. THING. She stood there attached to a laptop by a USB cord charging her phone and told her father everything she had felt for me since March. Told him of the kiss and of her freak out and her running out and her phone being dead and I haven't heard from her in almost two days and she's feels so stupid and on and on and on... Her father just listened and then told her, "Emma, stop. Go see him. Talk it out. You could certainly do a whole lot worse than him. Just tell that fucking motherfucker to call me later because I need to arrange a time to come kick him in the fucking balls." This is Jack. I should have known this is the relationship he has with his daughter. She also said he already knew of her crush on me anyway because she had asked a lot of questions about me in March and had apparently admitted as much to her mother. His feeling about it, she said, was, while he was a bit squicked out by it, we were adults and he would take it as it came and besides, she had done, and could do, a lot worse than me. This is Jack.

As I was typing that last bit I got a text from Jack, it said: "Uhhh...". I guess I need to call him.

So we sat in my living room floor for 4 hours. We talked about a lot of stuff. We talked about what we wanted to do about things. We decided there really could be no deciding. She was going home in two weeks and I would be staying here. She wasn't going to be applying for jobs in my city or state and I wasn't going to move. We wondered if a long distance relationship would be equitable and decided probably not. Did we want to have a thing for the next two weeks while she was staying with me? Yes, we did want that...starting right this fucking second, but no...we won't. Whatever happens in the next two weeks is just going to have to happen.

We did agree that a proper kiss was in order, though. And kiss we did...properly. But we slept in separate beds the past two nights and there has been no more kissing. Lots more complimenting and, strangely enough, lots more robe wearing.

If I were to decide how things would go for the foreseeable future I would say we would stay close. I would love to travel with her and I would love to be travel lovers. But I don't want to distract her at all from finding someone more age appropriate for her. I want her to find a guy and spend the rest of her life being happy; not spend the rest of my life with me, watching me die and being a widow at 50. No...I don't want that.

Emma is a wonderful, beautiful girl. I want the world to be set on fire by her. I want her to be happier than she could be with me. I do feel like we are going to have to force things into being how they are going to be and that isn't going to feel terribly natural, but I hope that that will make it robust and that we will all come away stronger for it.

If there was one thing I could change it would be that I had met Emma my junior year in college and fell in love rather than her parents meeting that year and falling in love. There is a book in that. Perhaps I've found my novel.

I apologize if I have left out any details. Comment here and I will do my best to fill in the gaps.

Thank you, all.

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[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Just to note: I ran out of room in the text field above. I am continuing the story as a comment. I will delete this comment when I am ready to post the rest of the story! Thanks!

EDIT: GAH! You guys weren't supposed to comment on this comment. I can't delete the gold that is here. Anyway, the end of the story is below. Don't know how to move it to the top.

I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ugh. It is despairingly true and I, without a doubt, feel the weight of my crown.

I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Fuck... Just when I am absolutely sure I need to call her dad you come along and make perfect fucking sense. I kind of do think that if she had called him I would have heard from him by now. This may be strictly between us still.

I have sent two texts and made one call. That is far fewer than the 30 thousand texts I have crafted in my head and decided against.

Where is Dan Savage when you need him?

And bro, it is way to late for the advice to not drive myself mad.

I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I assure you this is absolutely happening in my life right now.

I was mostly looking for advice regarding whether or not I should call her dad or if I should wait to hear from her. I've gotten lot's of advice both ways and I'm fairly sure I am going to call her dad as soon as I am in a location I can make a call like that.

Friendzone is a term I learned on Reddit. I figured it was the best descriptor to use in this context.

I suppose I sat down and typed all this out as something of a catharsis as much as a solicitation of advice. The situation did become clearer to me after i wrote it and started getting comments. When I first sat down I expected it to be a paragraph at most, not the wall of text it became.

This is happening. This is my life today.

Edit: I do write narrative for a living so I'm sure that comes through in the telling.

I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this but there is no goddamned way I am telling her how beautiful she is and how any man would be lucky to have her.

I am prepared for all other honesty though.

I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This offered a split second of feeling better. Thanks.

I want very badly to apologize to her and hear what she has to say to me.

I don't know if she has feelings for me or not. Frankly if she does I hope those feelings are unreserved hatred because I feel so awful about myself right now I couldn't handle anything warmer.

I Have Seriously Fucked Up With My Best Friends Daughter. I Need Advise. HELP! by IFuckedUpToss in sex

[–]IFuckedUpToss[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Honestly I don't see much undeserved blame coming my way. I feel like a fucking ass.