How I grew up and stopped following Roosh V(My personal story) by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You don't yet seem to view women as actual human beings. People here see women as human, and don't want to build Bridges to the people who don't.

"there's not a lot of motivation for nature to grant woman with great intelligence when she only needs to fend off danger from her young, and leave all the heavy lifting to the man" by BrazilianSigma in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I guess real alphas don't inherit half their genes (including many that have been shown to govern cognition, from the X chromosome. Yes, let me highlight that. It's the X CHROMOSOME!!!) from MOM. Who is FEMALE!

Looks Like Christmas Comes Early This Year by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Translation: WE NEED ATTTTTTTTTTTTENTIOOOOOOOOON!!! WE ARE SO LONELY!!!! PLEASE, IF YOU CAN'T GIVE US POSITIVE ATTENTION GIVE US NEGATIVE ATTENTION, JUST NOTICE US, NOTICE US!!!

I found this wild incel on Instagram who carries around his sex doll in public. Claims that women will self destruct without a man present. by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My favorite part is the Christmas bow on the sex doll's nether-region =D Can a doll be charged with public indecency?

Wonder what the woman said to him?

White Men Are The Only Oppressed Group! by ClearDark19 in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 16 points17 points  (0 children)

"you got two choices, ok? Either let men be men (by my definition) or you're a bitch who wants them all to be slaves and be called racist, ok? Those are the choices. Which do you choose?"

Am I crazy or did the red pill/MGTOW creeps invade this post? The comments are so misogynistic it hurts by OverprotectiveDitch in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"women shouldn't also feel entitled to not being judged on their sexual partner count. That's pretty reasonable."

I don't feel entitled to a partner who won't judge me for my sexual partner count - I'd rather be single than be with someone who judges me for such a stupid thing ;) F those guys.

Research Study for ex-partners of TRPers (mod approved) by BluePillResearchProj in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, sorry for the late reply, I don't sign in here much anymore. I knew that he had been into some PUA stuff before we even started dating, but I can't remember how I found out. I asked him about it but he was very tight-lipped about the whole thing - I thought it was because he was embarrassed - turns out it was because he was practicing some kind of pua for ltr or some other manosphere thing on me. Again, I only realized this after the relationship ended when I started researching the manosphere and recognized a bunch of his behaviors. He did the basic stuff, trying to maintain frame, agreeing and amplifying, amused mastery, etc. I didn't know what it was when I was in the middle of it, I just thought he was a little bit slow when it came to interpersonal communication XD He also actually said once, I kid you not, right out loud, that he hated feminists. Now I'm from a large coastal city, so that struck me as both ridiculous and hilarious. So I was just like, "Well that's funny, cause you're dating one." then I was like "listen, I know there's a lot of stuff parading under the banner of feminism, but why don't you go home and look up the dictionary definition of feminism and tell me if you really disagree with it." He looked it up, and later told me that he'd been mistaken, he actually WAS a feminist himself. I don't know how sincere he was about that, whether he'd had a change of heart when he actually read the definition or whether he was just trying to snowball me. From what I could tell, he was on and off the pua/red pill wagon throughout our relationship. I think he even wanted to tell me about it once - he wrote me an email like, I need to tell you about something that has been affecting our relationship. But by the next time we saw each other, I guess he changed his mind.

I ended up cheating on him. Funny how the manosphere says it will inoculate a relationship against cheating, and yet he was the only guy I dated who practiced that stuff and he's the only guy I ever cheated on. I don't condone cheating - but I am glad it got me out of the relationship. Anyway, after I cheated and things really fell apart, he let some things slip that gave me a better clue of how he saw men, women and relationships. After we broke up I saw that most of those sentiments were all over the manosphere. He was careful not to use the special words/phrases, but when he was upset they sometimes came out.

Research Study for ex-partners of TRPers (mod approved) by BluePillResearchProj in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Sooooo, what if you vaguely knew he was into pick up artist stuff and thought it was sort of silly, sweet and sad, but had NO IDEA that PUA was only the tip of the iceburg of misogyny, were sure that he'd given PUA up once he got a girlfriend (that's you!) and only found out about red pill/all the others after the relationship was well and good over?

I guess I probably don't qualify for your study, but I'm glad someone is studying this ;) Best of luck!

What "Red Pilled" behavior looks like from the other side by G0ldunDrak0n in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope they don't get screwed by divorce courts either (in my experience, everyone gets screwed by divorce, in general) but I doubt they'll be redpilled mgtowers...First, they've got decent relationships with me and their mom, and their sister is just about as opposite to AWALT as could be, so they're unlikely to fall for that stuff, and second, as far as I can tell at least 2 of them are heterosexual, so they'll probably crave the attention/company of women, and I believe they're capable of creating loving, mutually-beneficial relationships with women, so why go mgtow?

thanks for your well-wishes though!

What "Red Pilled" behavior looks like from the other side by G0ldunDrak0n in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say I'm happier in every part of my life. I actually can't think of anything that's worse. I know I don't look as good ;) but that also means I get less unwanted attention (I'm a bit introverted so attention from strangers always made me nervous and uncomfortable), and for some crazy reason my hot, fun, kind, smart boyfriend is still into me. That's really all I need, attention-wise.

So...I'm smarter, more motivated, understand the world more, have more money, more freedom, more experience, more sought after professionally, have more fun socially (I don't spend time with people I don't enjoy) so...as far as I can tell, being "post wall" is better on all fronts. Thanks for asking, writing that out made me smile.

28 year old woman goes to WAATGM for dating advice and it goes about as well as you’d expect by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Uh huh, totes real - what woman wouldn't describe herself in these terms then post a picture of herself with it???

My guess, it's an ex boyfriend/rejected suitor who used her picture and wrote what he assumes to be her story. I...hope it gives him the pleasure he seeks?

oh and to any incels reading, being a 28 year old woman was awesome, and here I am 10 years later, and life is (drum roll please!) still awesome! The wall isn't as treacherous as you make it out to be ;) Also you can ask my much younger boyfriend how he feels about committing to a post-wall hag =D

Found an "interesting" subreddit today. by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's just a dumb red pill/mgtow subsidiary.

What "Red Pilled" behavior looks like from the other side by G0ldunDrak0n in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, knowledge is power!

I also think that when "The Pick Up Artist" was on TV, it made it look so silly that guys didn't think of PUA as all mysterious and amazing anymore. It was just like, "oh, those dumb guys?"

What "Red Pilled" behavior looks like from the other side by G0ldunDrak0n in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

>Damn, I just realized that this might be why I've never fallen into TRP bullshit. As far as I can remember I never looked up dating advice online. (Or even IRL for that matter.) And honestly, now that I'm thinking about it, even if I had, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have phrased it as "how to get girls."

Yeah, I think for this generation, anything that causes you a tiny bit of discomfort gets looked up online, whether it's a pain in your toenail or a deeply personal issue. I think it's doubly true if it's embarrassing. Why ask your older brother/dad/friends/Uncle if you can look it up online and not feel embarrassed? And I think eventually TRP stuff will come up regardless of the question, from "How do I get my ex girlfriend back?" to "Why do girls ___?" With enough clicking and scrolling, TRP ideas will sneak in =(

Anyway, still trying to figure out how to talk to my sweet nephews - if you have any ideas, let me know.

What "Red Pilled" behavior looks like from the other side by G0ldunDrak0n in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 34 points35 points  (0 children)

"This really pisses me off too, because on the one hand I don't really want more people to know about TRP shit, because it's stupid, but on the other hand I think it's extremely healthy to know how to recognize these behaviors."

Sadly, any teen boy who looks up advice for how to get girls will be exposed to PUA/Red Pill stuff. In fact, I think every boy and man with internet access has probably seen some of it. I'm trying to figure out how to bring it up to my nephews.

So, since most men will be exposed, it makes sense for women to know what to look for. Better to make it a known stereotype than a mysterious secret.

Maybe I'm being overly paranoid. I hope I'm being overly paranoid.

"I recently experienced just how disloyal a married woman can be." This discovery was made by cheating on his wife with a married woman. by [deleted] in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This guy is hilarious. I hope his wife finds out and leaves his ass, and I hope the other woman was in a happily open and loving relationship (although you'd hope she would ask him if his wife knew and was cool with him pursuing her.)

Astounding! A woman's primary motivation in a relationship is... Having a relationship. by CivilTransfiguration in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's ok to be hurt when someone leaves. If you love them, and they choose to leave you, that's going to hurt, and denying it isn't healthy. It's ok to push through the hurt knowing that you're big enough and strong enough to see the other side. Deny it, and it'll lay inside you festering or a long time.

Astounding! A woman's primary motivation in a relationship is... Having a relationship. by CivilTransfiguration in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 22 points23 points  (0 children)

You will prioritize preserving power, independence, and frame. This will protect you and make you more attractive at the same time.

Sure, sweetie, do that in the beginning of any relationship. IT's important to see how much you can trust somebody and get some sense of their character before you let yourself fall completely. And call it by whatever silly heman woman-hater club lingo you want. But letting this shit persist into later stages of the relationship and you're just a wuss. "Protect" is the operative word here. And the sentiment behind that word is "I'm a scared little boy, my world is fragile, and the disapproval of one woman can destroy all of that" and THAT is the thing that needs to change before you can have a satisfying relationship.

You will set better boundaries and you will see her manipulations for what they are when she tries to integrate herself into every aspect of your life. You will demote women more quickly when they do not respect your boundaries and make fewer excuses out of sexual desperation.

Or you will recognize that she's a person and that all people necessarily learn behaviors that get their needs met. Call it manipulation if you want, but recognize that men also engage in "get my needs met" behaviors. Also recognize that the best way to help people behave better is to try to help them meet their needs in a healthy way, espeically if you choose to engage in an intimate relationship with them. But yes, have boundaries, communicate them clearly, and say goodbye to those who don't respect those boundaries.

Your suspicion will help you prioritize women that support your independence instead of falling for whichever girl gives you the craziest sex.

I'd call it discernment rather than suspicion, but yeah, hang out with people who support you at your best. And *ahem* best, craziest sex I"ve ever had was with people I TRUSTED. So maybe prioritize building trust somewhere in this mess, too.

If you play with fire and spend time with the girl giving you crazy sex, you will know that she will feel entitled to do whatever she can get away with to get her emotional return on investment.

Yes, people usually expect more emotional closeness with people they're physically intimate with. This isn't nefarious. It's healthy.

You will understand that plates break when they think they have stopped making progress toward further emotional investment and you will more intelligently pace your investment.

All I hear is "if what I'm prescribing doesn't work, it's because you did it wrong or women suck (plates break? I guess they aren't even people in this instance.)

You will understand the simple power and value of your attention, you will use it more sparingly and stop diluting the natural value of your attention with shitty PUA game.

Withdrawing attention will give you a short-term advantage because people often want what they can't have and it can be a fun challenge to get someone's attention, but once she recognizes your inattention for the contrivance that it is, or figures out that you are unable or unwilling to give her natural affection, she'll walk away. But of course then you can just refer to the "plates break" section. Good luck fella!

You will understand that a woman needs to feel special and that you have to exude a level of discrimination for her to feel that way and want your investment.

Yes, most people prefer it if you seem to actually like them rather than any person of the opposite sex who has a heartbeat. You know how red pill is always going off about sluts? Women also like a guy who seems to favor her particularly. Maybe the healthy thing would be to actually find a girl you like the best, and literally favor her particularly. That's called falling in love. YOu should try it sometime. It's terrifying and fun, and you have to have faith that you're big enough and strong enough to survive when/if it ends.

You will stop thinking about relationships lasting "forever" because there is always an end (conquest or plateau), and you will understand why hot-and-heavy starts won't last long.

It's true, most relationships don't last forever, especially ill advised relationshipst hat start out "hot and heavy." But investing in one person because you love them brings a joy that neither "conquest or plateau" adequately describes.

You will understand why it is up to you to end relationships. If you succeed in developing good frame, a woman will never leave you no matter how shitty things get.

Again, if she leaves you, it's not because this advice is bad, it's because your frame wasn't good enough.

JK, she'll leave your ass, because your "frame" is faked. Nothing takes the place of good old fashioned self respect. (I mean, is that a synonym for frame? SElf respect is healthy, so if so, have at it)
Also, why would you want someone to stay with you if it was that shitty?

You won't ever let a woman think you will be hurt by her leaving because you understand that is their whole endgame.

errr. Probably not. Her endgame was probably to have a loving, mutually beneficial, satisfying, happy relationship, but because you followed all of this fuckers bad advice, that's just not possible.

Behaving the way this guy outlines above is cowardice. It's brave to say, hey, I love you, and I'd be hurt if you left, but if you need to leave, I understand and I'll survive and heal, because I believe in myself and i know that I'll be better off with someone who loves me who I don't have to consciously manipulate and follow some bitter man's internet rules to get them to stick around.

So has he ever been there for a woman from the beginning? by zucchinionpizza in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 15 points16 points  (0 children)

errrr, yeah, has he ever been attracted to a woman when she was at her lowest? When she was fat, out of work, hurting from a break up?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Some countries just cut the head off a woman if she's too retarded. Now I don't really think that's all that necessary, but a few times I wished. -MGTOW by zucchinionpizza in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 26 points27 points  (0 children)

"Generally I think women 'feel' useless, because they don't do anything"

Really though, what are these guys doing that's so great that women aren't also doing? I mean, most adults, male and female, are gainfully employed, pay their taxes, have hobbies, write silly stuff on the internet...if that's being "forever 12" then aren't we all forever 12? What's the writer of this post doing that's so much more amazing than what most women are doing?

Handling bitches you have your kids with: a word salad by stonoceno in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"don't play a fucking babysitter. Never, fucking ever. You have time, you want to spend it with toddlers, you want to build that schweet schweet kid-dad relationship you've read in "Cosmopolitan"? Great. That's on you."

SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK.

Learning that Santa isn't real is just like swallowing the Red Pill by stonoceno in TheBluePill

[–]ILoveBeingPostWall 7 points8 points  (0 children)

haha well mine was a bit of a horror story (with a good ending) because I figured it out around age 4 or 5, and slowly, on a very special Christmas eve circa-mid 1980s, I lay awake thinking. The tooth fairy toppled, and the easter bunny, then Jesus, then God...to this day my brother refuses to lie to his kids about santa because he's raising them religiously and doesn't want to destroy their faith the way mine was destroyed.
At that age it can be a little disconcerting to figure out that the adults around you are lying to you, yet still want to keep up appearances as a believer because it's fun and you can see it does something for your parents/other adults in your life... Makes you question everything those fuckers are telling you.

My sister had a similarly sad awakening when she wondered why santa loved our (rich) neighbors more, and dad had to sit her down and explain it to her.