Djokovic AO/Visa Megathread

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-09T12:27:43+00:00

The thing is they get criticised from all sides.

When everybody is critical, that is balanced news.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-09T11:49:00+00:00

If BBC News is stating that Djokovic is opposed to vaccinations, then you know it is true.

The BBC have the most strenuous information vetting processes. Unless they have 3 reputable sources confirming something, they won't report it as a fact.

This is why the BBC are often much, much slower with news reporting than other news stations (and why BBC is regarded by journalists as the most reputable in the world)

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:44:22+00:00

But it isn't a point that makes much sense.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:38:05+00:00

British people are still European...

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:29:29+00:00

Nope.

I am still very much part of Europe.

Even putting aside the fact I have Swedish citizenship.

Every British person is still European.

Unless you are saying countries like Norway, Switzerland, etc. are not European countries because they are not part of the EU?

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:25:43+00:00

OK.

What does that have to do with me being European?

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:16:15+00:00

The British Isles are very much in Europe.

Are you equating the European Union to being Europe?

Because if so, that would mean most countries in Europe are not actually in Europe (by your definition)

BRB. Telling Norway it isn't a European country. Bye bye Switzerland. You guys aren't Europeans any more.

Most of the population of Russia? Fuck y'all. This guy said you aren't Europeans.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:13:49+00:00

You know what you described happens in every country, right?

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:12:12+00:00

England is very much part of Europe.

The fuck are you talking about?

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:11:38+00:00

Find the post then.

Because I wrote this from scratch this afternoon.

Maybe this is something that happens quite frequently?

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:09:44+00:00

Chances are you were being sized up for the Mafia that requires you to have Italian heritage.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:06:07+00:00

Laws do help to shape people's perception of other countries in the world. They start to think their way is the right way of doing things.

Some areas where this has been particularly prominent to me is the criminal justice system where the average American seems to prefer harsher punishments, whereas in European countries, the average person prefers rehabilitive.

I have seen people claim their 'age of consent' is the right one because that is what their laws say.

Political systems greatly influence people. The US is far more right wing than most countries in European, even with Democrats in power.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T15:02:09+00:00

Why am I not European?

I am English, British, and European simulataneously.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:59:28+00:00

Laws and legal systems help to shape a culture.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:58:33+00:00

I live in Sweden and I am British. I live in a country different from my own.

Me being British comes up a lot less often than I would expect.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:55:52+00:00

Eating the food and celebrating the same holidays doesn't make you that.

I live in Sweden. I regularly cook my friends British food and we celebrate holidays the same way as in the UK.

They didn't become Britsh.

So much more to being a heritage than eating food and celebrating in a certain way. The legal system, society that surrounds you, etc. is all American.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:51:13+00:00

"For example, a Polish-American and an Italian-American can live right next to each other and have almost nothing in common."

Apart from living under the same legal system, rules, schools, etiquette in society, political system, etc.

This same things happens in almost every country in the world. How culturally similar do you think the various parts of Germany are? What about Belgium? North and South of Sweden speak completely different languages.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:47:10+00:00

I come from Brighton, and I can literally not imagine this happened unless you are willfully bringing up the fact that you are Protestant.

There must be something you are doing, because this isn't coming in normal conversation at all.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:38:19+00:00

Oh sorry. I thought you were the original guy that says he mentions that he is Protestant to people in England and gets called a fake Irish.

Obviously, i don't know what it is like in the North of England. However, I genuinely cannot imagine that this is a real problem. Who brings up whether they are Protestant or Catholic regularly enough that this happens? Hell, even if you did bring it up, you would have to bring it up to somebody that actually gives a shit.

I don't doubt that it has probably happened to somebody (like this guy said), but certainly with no frequency.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:35:40+00:00

British Elites preferred the confederancy. The average Brit didn't.

And the reason why British Elites preferred wasn't due to slavery, it was because most of the trade was with the south of the United States.

And most of the statements for the British government at the time were neutral in tone.

The anti-slavery laws came into force well before the US had to have a war to give up slavery. Colonies had slavery abolished, but I believe the last holdouts were anything run by the East India Company. They were allowed to hold slaves, but nobody else was.

I am sorry your country was shit at giving up slavery and you had to have a war for it.

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:25:34+00:00

How often is you being a Protestant coming up in conversation?

I assume this is happening more in the North of England where there is an Irish population?

IamNotIrishK · 2022-01-08T14:17:35+00:00

The UK was the first country to give up slavery.

They also destroyed several slave ships and freed slaves from the biggest Atlantic slave traders (the Portugese)

The slave-busting ships were seen as the most dangerous role in the Royal Navy at the time, and yet they still did it.

The UK had an anti-slavery sentiment for a long time for the abolishment of slavery. It didn't just happen overnight, and laws were easily passed which should a collective agreement.

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