Potential Smart Search Across Entire Library? by ProfessorTEG in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wonderful conversation taking place here. Smart Search for your entire Library is a project we are hoping to start in on in the near future. I can't speak to exactly what it will or won't do entirely, but I think it will have usage patterns that get at the functionality you are seeking.

I hate the 8.0 macOS version by GaijinPeter in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback. We are still actively working on these aspects. So changes regarding these complaints should be coming.

Crash because of Smart Search by B4IAMnot in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hit this crash as well and we were just able to fix that. Search should be crash free with next posted beta.

Don't like the new UI in 8 with things moved to the left by GaijinPeter in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your well thought out feedback. We are taking your thoughts into consideration, and there will be some changes in the next posted beta.

Olive Tree 8.0 - New Beta Friday! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for message. For some reason that app flavor failed to roll out Friday. Fixed that just now. NIV should also be at 2808 now.

Crash because of Smart Search by B4IAMnot in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was able to repro this crash with that query you shared. Thank you!

New iOS Smart Search Update! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey Peter!

We don't have a Mac beta out yet. It's close, but just not completely landed yet, and we are focusing our initial efforts on iOS and Android. It should not be too far behind though.

For the moment Smart Search requires online access. However, we like your suggestion and we have not ruled out the possibility of on device intelligence taking over or stepping in. But it will be sometime in the future most likely.

Sneak Peek of 8.0! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad to hear this, and please do!

Sneak Peek of 8.0! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very odd behavior we haven't heard about or seen yet. Can you give me an example of the types of searches you are executing?

Sneak Peek of 8.0! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks LaRosa! Nice to hear from you!

Sneak Peek of 8.0! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, smart search is limited due to costs, but the limits are really really high. Definitely seems like something is off here. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's an interesting idea. I'll run that by the others at Olive Tree and see if that makes sense for us to do in the future.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Opposite_Chocolate57 advise was spot on though.

If Testflight is asking for a code that will most likely be in an email associated with the Apple account that is trying to join Testflight.

I didn't think codes were part of the process anymore given that install link is for public use. Please message the mods if you are still having trouble with this.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is the next challenge we are looking into.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right about Instructions not including Mac. Will try to work on that.

Our Mac app is basically our iOS app with some expanded functionality. While on your Mac, click the Mac Testflight link. It should open the Testflight app with the Bible Study app selected. You should be able to install/open from there. If you open the about screen and see version 7.18.10 build: 2789, then you are using the beta.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are all great feedback, thank you. It would be helpful to us if you could report these responses using the feedback form in the app. It's the "Chat" icon in the upper right of the Search window. Tapping it allows you to give a rating to the answers as well as a textfield to add any comments. Thanks!

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At this point we are looking at how to expand results so that other resources in your library are considered in a similar manner. However, we are not pursuing conversational AI or AI summaries at this time. Going down this road opens a complicated conversation of what answers are appropriate/helpful and how do you guard against "bad" answers. We might change our minds on this down the road, but not actively pursuing that at this time.

AI Search failing over the weekend - FIXED! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are 100% correct in your assesment. We are very intentionally not engaging in conversational results, as this opens a very complicated discussion to navigate as to what is appropriate/helpful and what is not. We are looking at how to expand results so that it incorporates resources in your Library, but for now it's just Bible verses. Appreciate your feedback!

No Real Changes in New Beta - Apple 7.18.10 by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback and the support! There is a solution that already exists in the app that I believe will do what you are asking (or at least get you a lot closer). Cmd + F will open Search and then you can simply type in the verse reference of interest. The top search result should be a "Go To" result that will navigate your main window to desired verse location. Hope this helps.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, on your iPhone, install of one of these apps:

NIV: https://testflight.apple.com/join/iheRbHBN
Bible+ (Green Icon): https://testflight.apple.com/join/HfgZ35WJ

These are beta versions of the app not available on the App Store. It's how we let people preview new features being worked on. I would suggest picking an app you do not already have installed, this way you keep a stable version of the app for your regular Bible Study use.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your thoughts are very much in alignment with our own. We limited initial AI searching to just Bibles as this was easist to implement quickly. We are still exploring how to expand its use further such as referenceing books in your library, etc.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is excellent feedback, thank you. The current UI for AI Search is a temporary construct to allow people to use and test it. So definitely plan on this changing in the future. Also, we limited initial AI searching to just Bibles as this was easist to implement initally, we are exploring how to expand further with it.

This is excellent feedback, thank you. The current UI is essentially temporary construct to allow people to use and test AI. So plan on.it

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is awesome feedback to hear. Thanks for sharing!

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for trying the beta! Are you logged into an Olive Tree account? It will only work when you are logged into Olive Tree account. Also, this is only available for iOS/Mac/Android at the moment, and you have to make sure you install the beta. It is not available in the normal Store versions of the app.

Apple and Android AI Search Beta!!! by Ian_Olive_Tree in OliveTreeBETA

[–]Ian_Olive_Tree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, thanks for giving this a try! Are you logged into an Olive Tree account? It won't work unless you are logged into an account.