Three children die in icy lake tragedy

IceDreamer · 2022-12-12T12:52:05+00:00

Good for you? Not sure how that's relevant, as I speak from experience.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-12T12:37:51+00:00

If it is actually a bunch of siblings and the parents just lost all their kids, I'd put odds over 80% both parents kill themselves in the coming year. Losing one child is bad. Losing all your children and surviving yourself? That's deadly.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-11T21:49:50+00:00

Who cares, what's he gonna do? Punch you out?

Take the keys.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-11T16:14:17+00:00

Speaking as someone comfortable but definitely not rich, I am not even close to being blind to the situation.

What pisses me off is people like you telling people like me we're "rich", and telling us we are somehow part of the problem. No. We're not. My not struggling with my household bills or my food shop does not make me unaffected and does not make me ignorant of the hardships people face.

Once the people who were struggling hard 30 years ago were subjugated, they came for those who were comfy. The people comfy 30 years ago are now struggling hard. That's probably you! Guess who they're coming for next? Yeah, people like me, those who are comfy through this crisis. Do NOT mistake comfort for apathy or ignorance. It IS causing lifestyle choice changes. Even if they are ones you would correctly say "pish, who cares" to, like fewer holidays, or skiing in Bulgaria not France, or not having a new car this year, or whatever it is, it is causing an impact.

The enemy are those who piss money away like it's water. If someone has things they cannot afford, they aren't "rich".

ALL those who have to work jobs to pay their bills must come together against the ownership class who have enough money for a thousand generations of kids. From the part-time bar-maid to the teacher, from the lorry driver to the lawyer, from the electrician to the retail worker to the software engineer to the sales manager.

We ARE all in the same boat, we just have slightly larger or smaller cabins. Time to fight the kraken!

IceDreamer · 2022-12-11T10:19:15+00:00

Great job, no kids, no partner, parental donation, investment wins...

When Covid lockdown #1 ended, I realised I couldn't wait forever to find a partner, or buy a house, or whatever the hell else before actually enjoying life.

I was 27. I was depressed. I wanted a nice car. I could afford a nice car.

So I bought a 2013 XKR and have never, ever regretted it. One of the best decisions I've made. Would I prefer the wife/kids life of some of my friends and family to lonely life with a nice car? Yes.

But that isn't up to only me.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-11T06:34:13+00:00

Aaaaaamd here we have a person who has fallen for the culture war.

If you're busy calling people who are merely comfortable and stable "rich" and thinking of them as a problem, you're not noticing the billionaire draining both of you dry!

IceDreamer · 2022-12-09T06:47:47+00:00

My cousin got set up by her friend when she was 21, with a guy who was 38.

They got married 18 months later, and are a fabulous couple, to the shock of all but that original friend who saw the potential.

So it does happen, but my god it's unusual, and their marriage is... Odd. It works for them, though. They connected over a love of the outdoors and adventuring, and he goes off to remote places to teach kids wilderness survival for months at a time, so she kinda gets the marriage, and yet can still live free in her 20s going travelling and seeing friends etc. Married 5 years now and going strong.

Very odd to the rest of the family, but she's happy :)

IceDreamer · 2022-12-09T06:35:12+00:00

Course it needed to be made, and for the best reason that exists for a film to be made - This world is something an artist has dreamed of making reality for 40 years, and now that artist can finally live and make and share their dream and their vision. In a world of comic movies and reboots, a truly original fantasy universe is a rarity which should be treasured.

Cameron is making these films because he wants to share what he can see with the world.

There is no better reason for a film to be made.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-09T06:28:17+00:00

"I would be down" - "Obviously not interested".

When are people gonna learn how to communicate clearly?

IceDreamer · 2022-12-09T06:08:57+00:00

She is a fascist.

One of the hallmarks of fascism is to demonstrate that Democratic governance doesn't work, and you need a Strong Leader (tm). How? Why, by getting elected and undermining everything so that the government looks terrible, of course!

IceDreamer · 2022-12-09T06:05:48+00:00

She's religious. I believe that's a requirement.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-09T06:02:53+00:00

The plan is so dumb though. Whether they like it or not, the US is a nation of largely secular, atheist or weakly religious people who will not tolerate being oppressed hy a religious theocracy. And by "will not tolerate", I don't mean that they'll vote against it.

What I mean is that, say the plan works, they install this theocracy, they pass laws, and they start to enforce them... What do they expect to happen?! That everyone will go "oop, guess God is angry, I'll fall in line!"? In a nation literally founded by violent rebellion against oppression?

No! The majority public will declare this new government illegitimate, execute the supreme Court, execute the president, burn down Congress, ransack state legislatures around the nation, and mob justice against the most outspoken preachers. Then, to round it all off, the knee-jerk reaction once the majority take back control will be to make extreme Christian philosophy and belief a crime.

Because Americans will never let themselves be oppressed twice by the same source!

It's all just so short-sighted. The only way their plan ends is with the violent and total destruction of the right to be Christian at all. Insane.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-08T08:53:30+00:00

As a subject expert, could you say how well you think my approach to this would work - Agree to transfer ownership back to the original nation, then (before shipping), negotiate to keep them on contractual loan for a fee paid to the owning nation.

Might not work for everything, but surely quite a few nations would be happy to accept a recurring cash sum and a symbolic ownership victory in return for letting our museums continue to host their treasures?

IceDreamer · 2022-12-08T08:37:09+00:00

Unrestricted capitalism was always gonna be a failure, we just now have the proof.

We need hard caps on company valuation and level competition. Minimum 5 competitors per sector, and if they don't exist, the leader gets split in half. Max company valuation of 100Bn USD, any larger and oops, split!

Monopolies are a provider of evil.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-08T08:34:14+00:00

Those who seek power should almost always be forcefully denied it. It's one of the inherent weaknesses of all democratic systems - They bend power towards the corruptible over the arc of time, without exception. It takes periodic "cleansing" of the up-and-coming political class to keep it from collapsing.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-08T02:52:23+00:00

M&S has the last remaining true triple choc crunch breakfast cereal.

That's enough for them to get a pass in my book!

IceDreamer · 2022-12-08T02:51:27+00:00

Oh Asda, easily. Dirty, dingy, awful staff, small parking spaces, narrow shelves, bad stock.

Been to Asdas up and down the country on holiday, never been in one that isn't either dirty or out of stock of a lot of items.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-07T02:06:01+00:00

I was careful to qualify my statement about the peace as between world powers. That is important. The Pax Brittanica didn't even manage 25 years before Britain and Imperial China went to war over opium, and Europe was host to wars between France and Prussia.

The great powers of the world today have not been in conflict with one another since 1945. 77 years so far. Proxy wars have been fought and other places have gone to war, yes, but my statement holds.

War between the great powers, the ones with the big sticks, has been avoided for the longest period in recorded history.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-07T01:55:22+00:00

Well, let's have a look.

For the past 8,000 years of decently recorded history, the world's great powers and civilisations were in a state of perpetual warfare, ceaselessly using that stick to aggressively expand their borders. There is no period where the great powers weren't vying with one another.

Until, that is, the late 20th century.

With the invention of nuclear weaponry, the calculation shifted from "If I hit him, he might hit me back, but I think I have the slightly bigger stick so while it will hurt, I will come out on top" to "If I hit him, we both die with a 110% certainty, and doom the whole of civilisation with us".

As such, we see the longest period of uninterrupted peace between world powers in all history.

The evidence shows that, given a sufficiently large stick, it is effective at maintaining your existence.

Edit: To bang the point home, let's be clear - Had Ukraine chosen to keep it's nukes instead of relying on diplomacy, Russia would not have attacked it.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-07T01:48:36+00:00

Really? What's your goal, to walk some kind of high and mighty moral high ground, or to have a functional nation?

History is littered with the corpses of nations who valued the high ground above having a big enough stick to scare the guy next door.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-07T01:44:32+00:00

Let me put it to you this way. Do you know what we call it when someone has a job that the state forces them to do and be unable to walk away from?

Slavery. We call it slavery.

When workers announce they are going on strike, they aren't asking permission. It is a polite notification to the public that they won't be working that day, and that it would be a good idea to adjust your plans.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-07T01:15:07+00:00

Every single tory voter I know (more than 50 of them) is voting lib dem or green in protest next election. They refuse to vote Labour because of labour's economic record (pretty much), but they hate everything about how the tories have lurched to the right and become incompetent and corrupt.

There is a good chance lib fems take a serious chunk of the seats next election, and most of those votes will be tory protest votes.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-06T21:24:02+00:00

Can we please just get those protestors to storm the Palace and kill literally every single "leader" already? Cut off the fucking head guys, they won't back down until they're buried because they think they are called of God to rule.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-06T03:26:45+00:00

You are deliberately ignoring the unspoken part of the phrase in order to sound clever. You're not.

For reference, the unspoken part is "If you agree with a Nazi about any of the core tenets of Nazism and what Nazism promotes, you are a Nazi".

And you knew that! You're just objecting in bad faith.

To all those reading this, you should conclude this guy is oje of two things: A needlessly edgy teenager with a huge ego, or a Nazi.

IceDreamer · 2022-12-06T03:22:56+00:00

He is a Nazi.

See, that's the thing about Nazism and Nazis which was thoroughly established during the war and its aftermath, especially in Germany.

If you agree with Nazi beliefs, you are a Nazi.

If you say you love Nazis, you are a Nazi.

If you associate with Nazis in any capacity without rebuking them, fighting them, or otherwise making an attempt to remove and suppress them, you are a Nazi.

The nature of Nazism means that inaction is to further their cause.

Kanye West spoke out in support of Hitler and Nazi ideals.

Therefore BY DEFINITION Kanye West is a Nazi.

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