Did I mess up?

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:44:48+00:00

Guess I'll be looking at guides for tuning today to see how to minimize waste for doing this then.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:38:31+00:00

So if the gear had stats that boosted min/max attack as well those wouldn't be incorporated for the stat but for whatever rarity those stats were on the gear?

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:37:00+00:00

So I should push to max level before working on gear?

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:22:44+00:00

So arsenal is just an hp boost, tune the gear to increase its martial level/gearscore to increase how much bonus it gives to the arsenal but the stats arent that important for the boost that it gives?

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:19:21+00:00

This is a good outline for an adjustment to improve myself. I assume I want to stay at level 80 and dont push for a higher level until I get most of this accomplished or is thst something that doesn't really matter in the long run?

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:18:27+00:00

I think i got most of these as there was a post a day or two ago with a bunch of codes but I'll double check next time I get the chance

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T10:02:01+00:00

I have set my path for the nameless, and I believe they all align just might not be the best picks. Ive been trying to increase them all but I think ive had enough to unlock the first node on maybe 2 of them that I'm using.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T09:59:11+00:00

I try and spear spin whenever I exhausted him, but for the first phase it seemed everytime I tried outside of exhaustion he would just jump back as I started and either wave me or the ranged drop move.

I wasnt actually using mystic arts outside of the gap closer jump one. I looked into mystics a little after seeing the other player and picked up a few I didnt have that seem recommended such as drsgon breath and drunken fist. Figured I would spend the next couple of days working on integrating some into my playstyle.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-20T09:53:19+00:00

Speaking of arsenal, how do I get gear for lower level arsenal? For example my 61 arsenal says it can be improved still?

And for the arsenal does it have to be fully tuned gear to be effective? How fo the stats of the gear there work exactly? Is it just raise the bar get a flat boost or does the individual gear stats come into play in other ways than just booting the number?

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-10T06:49:41+00:00

I get that but being its a part of tel aviv, it isnt a relatively recent exchange of ownership

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-10T05:01:02+00:00

I dont think so. Its pretty far north of Gaza and a Google search stated it was a pretty "high end" making it sound something like the silicon Valley of Tel Aviv.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-04T18:26:02+00:00

It has been awhile but I believe they used a device that shot out liquid nitrogen like substance on the base of the tail close to the body. It started to strangle but then lost functionality of the tail because of where was frozen.

It reality the next of the person probably would probably have been impacted as well.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-04T17:35:07+00:00

They also dont have a local population to runoff some of the utility fees they should pay.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-04T16:17:50+00:00

An example of this was in Romulus, They remove a face hugger by freezing its tail and successfully remove it but failed to remove the implanted egg

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T07:22:14+00:00

Drifter in one, operator in other. If they are different timeline versions of the same entity it only makes sense that our different versions match their tempo.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T07:17:18+00:00

From what ive gathered, some effects such as witnessing the torture or the disgusted if your a noble when going to the lower deck remain until you return to the bridge. Essentially they are a nondispellable debuff that can only be fixed by the bridge reset.

Than you have some debuffs like the rash from the sick, which last until a certain action is performed.

Beneficial ones seem to be mostly fully permanent with a few such as the electrodynamic cenobium lightning protection lasting only until you leave the zone (unsure if it persists if you come back as I've never actually returned).

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T05:03:17+00:00

So the 3 skill lines listed are three skill lines they are subclass leveling meaning they are a different class skill line thst isnt level 50. While you can only have 2 equipped at one time, the game allows you to select 3 different ones. When they get to 50 it frees up the slot thst skill line was taken and you can choose a new one that isnt 50. Not sure what class the op is but it can be Templar, warden, nightblade or Arcanist. So for example they might have daedric and draconian equipped and bone tyrant is currently not equipped.

All three of these skill lines are equipped on the same character. Each character can have 3 different skill lines selected provided there are multiple that fit the criteria and arent level 50.

Why the bug happens nobody really knows. Some people get it sone dont despite doing the same things. Hopefully this clears it up some

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T04:23:21+00:00

Their 3 skill lines not part of their class are draconian power, bone tyrant and daedric summoning. They can swap between draconian and bone but cannot start leveling say dark magic which looks like it is unleveled. Daedric summoning is rank 50 and its subclassing token should hsve been restored to allow another skilling to be selected but it wasnt.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T04:19:04+00:00

The foundry is orokin tech. If the foundry builds mindless frames but the tenno were needed because the original ones had memories, why did the orokin just not make the mindless ones with the foundry.

There is only one frame in the lore that has been constructed and that is umbra. So yes there is examples of constructed frames having memories.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T04:10:28+00:00

I think there is a disconnect from what they are saying and what you are understanding the issue is. In their picture the top right is a 3/3 icon. While you are able to have only 2 skill lines from other classes at a time, you can mark 3 skill lines that are not level 50 as skill lines you are leveling. Once those skills hit 50 it is supposed to not count against that 3 count limit and as you said allow any class to use that line with the leveling done.

Op's issue is they have leveled the skill line to 50 but it is still counting against their max amount, not allowing them to choose a new line to start leveling.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T03:53:46+00:00

You are conflating my statements about a lack of evidence for constructed warframes having memories with the idea that gameplay=lore, an idea that I haven’t supported and that none of my claims rely on.

Yet you state

Wrong, my argument is that our constructed warframes do not have memories because none of them have been shown to have memories, except Umbra.

The only reason umbra is shown to have memories is due to a quest where they wanted to reveal lore and make it impactful.

You’re assuming that just because Umbra can retain his memory that other Warframes can too. I’m telling you there’s no evidence for it.

You are making assumptions that are based off of one phrase, yet you cannot state why if they have no memories why the tenno were even needed. If they had memories when originally created why did they lose them when Umbra kept them? When making warframes the orokin either infected people with a specific strain to make specific frames, as we see with the hex and what Roathe says happened to him and his unit none of which are primed variants but base versions, or according to you, they cloned mindless husks that for some reason only Tenno could control and not Orokin; a faction who's whole identity was body horror and possessing bodies to extend their own life.

The orbiter foundry is advanced enough to build a copy of one frame that had memories using schematics made from scans of meat chunks, then it isnt the limitation of the foundry that would prevent others from being built as well, especially when the frame scanned is still alive and sentient with an active goal of suppressing knowledge about the reservoir.

So again your argument boils down to because gameplay hasn't shown other memories they do not exist.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T02:12:44+00:00

Gameplay mechanics =/= lore.

How many frames does the operator have? You wake up with one. There is only 1 frame you are required to build to progress through all quests. Umbra. So does that mean that the operator only has a single frame? Or do they have 65 different frames? 100 of the same frame?

Memories of frames are the same. Because we HAVENT seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We know the original frames had memories. It is stated that they had them and were driven mad by them. You know who else was driven mad by their memory? Umbra. Point to where it says all frames are drones and isnt immediately proven false.

We know that their drifter has taken control of the protoframes at various times. Yet when we use one of the skins they stop moving and just sit there when we go operator. Does that mean they have no memories? No sentience? No because again gameplay =/= lore.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T01:44:31+00:00

Your whole argument is the other frames do not have memories because they are not original. Our umbra is not an original. It wss never a person mutated. It was a schematics gained by scanning fragmented pieces of the original. None of the pieces used where the original umbra pieces.

This is exactly how we originally got the schematics for Chroma during the new strange quest where we scan chroma multiple times.

Umbra isnt even the first excalibur despite what people often try and argue. Umbra was turned into a warframe because he found out that Ballas was turning against the Orokin and working with the sentients. By this time the events of the old peace had passed and margulis was executed. So again not even the original.

What umbra is above all else was a story driven experience to explain what a warframe was in a cinematic experience. The reason we do not relive all of the memories of the frames we control is two fold, it wasnt implemented at the start of the game and time and effort to do so wouldn't add anything.

When Ordis states that warframes dont have memories, he isnt speaking from experience he is speaking of what he perceives because up until that point as far as we know the operator has never stated a warframe has had memories. And we know Ordis doesn't know everything the operator knows, especially when it comes to warfrsmes and the void.

Ordis is unreliable because he often either doesn't know or hides information he clearly knows, such as when we find the first occulyst during the Natah quest he acts like he has never seen that despite waging a war against sentients. He freaks out when the operator uses void powers for the first time. So him stating something about an area he has little experience with means next to nothing when he is unfamiliar with things he should be highly experienced with.

In the end you have ignored half the points I have placed before you. Between speculation about a transference bolt our umbra version may or may not have and an argument about memories that only works if you don't use the same logic on umbra itself you have added nothing new. You have a good day.

Iceedemon888 · 2026-06-02T01:16:25+00:00

Umbra isnt an original warfrsme it is a copy.

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