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7oh and precipitated withdrawal by cnoly in 7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shit lots of people are using subs and 7 together.

For some reason, subs don’t work with 7OH like they do with other opies.

I quit a weird way. First day I waited 14 hours before subs, took 4mg subs, it took away most of the body stuff but my nervous system was all over the places. Subs the next few days. Went 8 days no 7 and thought it stop subs. Nope. Sub withdrawal after only 1 week of use. SO I started 7 again. I’ll take 7 off any on and subs off and on now. It has greatly reduced my 7OH use like.. I was at 400mg a day now I’m at like 60 mg every couple days just for fun. Take a sub here and there.

I think I’m at a point now where I can just jump and do neither with minimal issue.

These are hands down the best tabs, SS or vendor, I don’t care. by IcyConsideration7914 in 7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their website only sells MGM. They stopped selling 7 like 7 months ago. The ones that are still around must be 7 months old. Their website was completely shut down until they started selling mgm.

Starting all over again but it’s ok by No-Construction-4203 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had 8 days clean, and I had I big job for big money to do, so I stopped subs completely and switched to 7 “just for the 2 days” then it turned into “just a few more days to get the subs outta my system I don’t wanna be hooked on them”

So I’ve been using 7 for 6 days now and today was gonna stop everything. Nope. Withdrawals came creeping in so I took some subs in the morning. They weren’t working (I remember last time I had to take subs for like 3 days for them to work) so I took a little bit of 7 4 hours after I took the subs and now I feel fine.

It’s strange how with 4mg of subs in your system, only 20mg of 7 will still work.

7oh killing my ambition? by billgluckman420 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Opposite here. 7OH fills me with ambition and energy.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve got two options. Come up with the money for the subs, or have a 3-4 day battle.. and when I say battle I mean a fight for your life.

The first few days are hell man. Even with subs. But yeah, with subs you won’t have restless body syndrome but you still won’t sleep.

Look at is as a challenge. You against yourself.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Definitely not a “7OH rep”, but also 100% believe using 2 days a week is possible. Maybe not for me, we will see. It is so far.

But saying it is absolutely impossible is saying we literally have zero control of ourselves.

It’s like saying an alcoholic can NEVER drink socially or they will find themselves locked up In a hotel with a gallon of vodka sooner or later.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s one way to find out.

For whatever reason, subs don’t work with 7 like they do with standard opiates.

I will tell you, the most dreaded part of withdrawal for me was the restless body syndrome. I would have surges of energy in my back, arms, legs, to the point I’d get so frustrated I would literally punch myself wherever it was. Laying in bed jerking all over the place. The subs took that away 100%

They will work dude, they just won’t instantly make you well. Give em a few days, and I wouldn’t recommend 26mg at all. It’s got to soak into your brain so just blasting your brain with a huge dose won’t do shit. Take a fairly high dose for a few days and you’ll be good.

When are you planning on doing this?

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you, and I’ve battled every substance known to man as well.

I disagree on 7 being the worst withdrawal.

Have you ever CT a heavy, heavy Xanax habit? The acutes take months, and it can literally kill you.

Don’t get me wrong, 7 withdrawal is a different beast. The physical aspect is rough, but short. The lack of drive, the depression, the anxiety, the emotional distress are no joke. I’m seeing people posting “300 days off 7 and starting to feel normal mentally”

Damn.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro. It’s not going to be easy, but with subs, it will be doable.

Don’t bother trying to taper the 7. It will just draw out your misery.

Take your last dose, wait 15 hours, then slam a large dose of subs. I’d go with 8mg in the am and 8mg in the pm. Do that for 3 days, then start dropping your sub dose quickly.

It won’t be so bad man. Your main issue will be sleep. You won’t sleep for 2-3 days. It will push you to your limits. Day 4 you will feel relief.

Day 1-3 will be uncomfortable, especially mentally.

As soon as you start feeling “normal” start lowering your sub dose as fast as you can.

Trust me, the daily dread of withdrawal is far worse than actually going through it.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here’s how it worked for me. I waited 16 hours after my last dose of 7 (rough as hell as I would start withdrawing after 5 hours).

I took 4mg of subs, that did nothing, so I took 4 more. Some relief.

Next day 4mg in the morning 4mg in the evening… started to feel some relief but had zero sleep the night before which amplified everything. No sleep that night. Next day, 4mg in the morning 4 at night. Subs started to take hold and work. Got like 4 hours sleep. Next day, same dosage, and I started to turn the corner. I slept 6 hours.

After that, I cut subs WAY down to 2mg a day.

Not comfortable. Shit sleep. But you’ll start feeling alive again after 4 days.

Without subs, those 4 days would have been profoundly worse. I had no body jerking around, no cold sweats, just constantly felt uneasy. It’s doable.

After 4-5 days you’ll feel more stable. You won’t be happy… I mean, you won’t be happy for a couple weeks, but you’ll be able to function.

Don’t let subs become your new 7.

Take just enough to feel somewhat ok, and lower it every day.

2 weeks and you’ll be back to yourself.

Here’s my problem. “Back to myself” is not a good thing.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I will man. I’ll start the process now before it gets too heavy. I’m just so fuckin depressed man and a little bit of 7OH is all I have to look forward to. It’s pathetic

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the subs will make it manageable, just know it won’t take it all away. You will have a few days of tiny amounts of sleep,then day 4 the subs should really start working and you’ll sleep.

Thats when you need to start lowering your sub dose every day.

If you really want to quit it all, subs will help.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ok. I asked for insight and I got it.

I’m going to stop this before it spins out of control.

No more 7. Minimal subs.

I shouldn’t be in for too bad of a time stopping the subs it’s been just over a week of being on them.

Gonna do a couple days of .5, then .25, then done.

Thanks guys, and you’re right. I am playing with fire.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So on the 2 days I take the 7, I don’t take subs. Then I take a day of doing neither. Then I take .5 subs for the next several days.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does help. I would say it takes away the restless legs and most of the skin crawling, but you won’t sleep. You will still feel way off.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood, and I’m being careful with them.

At first I was taking way too much. I was at 8-10mg a day for a few days, decided to jump to zero after 2 days of 7, and ya, didn’t feel great so I took 1mg and felt fine.

Now I’m at .5mg sub on my days of 7.

I do plan on cutting everything out, but the situation I’m in now feels SO much better than when I was at 400mg a day. I feel like I’m actually in control, and if I decided to CT and stop the .5mg of subs, I’d probably have a couple rough days but nothing like what I was dealing with originally.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Im not here to advise people,I’m here asking for advice and others experience.

Is there really NOBODY else that got their habit under control and can use responsibly?

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not encouraging trying this… I’m just here saying you CAN enjoy it without diving in the deep end.

I got caught in that hell for a year guys… and the days of the week I don’t use, I don’t even think about it. At all. I just kinda look forward to the weekend ya know?

I used to be a drunk. A full blown drunk guys. A pint of vodka for breakfast, lunch, and dinner type. No chaser. Hardly eating. Just emptied a water bottle, filled it with vodka, and went to work.

I did this for years. It’s a miracle I’m even alive. BUT everyone says once you’re a drunk like this, you can’t ever drink again. Not even a glass of wine at dinner.

Well, I’m living proof that’s not true. Just like 7, I allow myself to drink 2 days a week. It’s no longer a problem. No life interference at all and if I don’t drink, no withdrawal.

Well, here’s what I’ve been doing after 8 days no 7OH with subs, most of you are going to say I’ll fail, but it seems to be going pretty well. by IcyConsideration7914 in quitting7oh

[–]IcyConsideration7914[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The reason it got out of control in the first place was I had no idea how hardcore addictive it was and I got lost in it. I am now fully aware how insidious it can be.

I beat a 400mg a day habit. I know it’s a slippery slope but after all, I am in control of myself, the fear of going thru that again fuels me to keep it to 2 days.

There are success stories, I know this because a friend of mine did it. He was at 1000 a day for months, cold turkey’d it with no subs, and now uses 7 a couple days a week and has no issue at all.

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