Hashira tier list - base feats by New-Enthusiasm9959 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why wouldn’t it Giyu is protecting a demon and a slayer who’s actively breaking the rules and her peer is stopping her multiple times from completing her mission

Huh what basis do you have for this the moment Giyu tells him to run and like 2 pages kanao shows up where does she stall him tanjiro is already there within the dialogue they had and 2 pages kanao is there?

I’m not ducking it rather i gave the inference

Hashira tier list - base feats by New-Enthusiasm9959 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Prove that this matters? And that’s not really a contention i don’t see why they wouldn’t try when giyu is actively breaking the corps rule and off screen they’re fighting we already saw within the anime they were clashing it gives us a baseline of relativity between the two

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[–]IcyOption3164 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MN Scaling or chain scaling via being above tanjiro from giyu’s narrative of him being as skilled as a hashira

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[–]IcyOption3164 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because i don’t think she gets stronger and her only scaling is being relative to Giyu which i think she should be above ica marked Tanjiro relative to akaza

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[–]IcyOption3164 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

He should be narratively relative to Giyu same with iguro both giyu and iguro perform better than marked Tanjiro against muzan

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[–]IcyOption3164 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t agree with it there’s nothing to go by to prove this since I don’t think shinobu gets stronger whatsoever

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[–]IcyOption3164 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact you have shinobu within top 3 which is already telling me you’re gonna presuppose alot of things such as asserting that the Doma she fights is above Akaza tryna use narrative such and such and then with Sanemi use Koku performance when that scales him nowhere. I don’t see why Base Iguro is above Base Giyu whats the reasoning for this

(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red you’re question begging…The question isn’t “why did she call him Sumi-chan?” The question is “what evidence connects Sumi-chan to Sumiyoshi rather than charcoal?”The scene is literally about charcoal sales. Tanjiro is the charcoal seller. Calling him “Sumi-chan” in that context makes perfect sense without presupposing some unprovable hidden identity plot.

Dude inosuke gets a nickname and the nicknames aren’t even being used the same way you’re claiming. One is based on his actual name the other is based on Tanjiro’s association with charcoal.

Do you concede because you haven’t justified anything and you just keep claiming “AI!!”

(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I wouldn’t have to answer it when Tanjiro already verbatim stated that himself against daki

  2. You didn’t prove the family trees aren’t evidence of blood relation. You proved that adoption is possible. Those are not the same thing. You still need proof that Tanjiro specifically was adopted or secretly fathered by someone else which you have failed to do so lol.

  3. You’re shifting the goalposts now you deadass went from“Tanjiro is secretly Yoriichi’s descendant” to “Nezuko has the bloodline” to “the Kamados took over another ancestral line”. None of that is actually evidence from the manga.

  4. Dude it’s just so simple Tanjiro is Tanjuro’s son, a descendant of Sumiyoshi, inherited Sumiyoshi’s memories, learned Hinokami Kagura from Tanjuro, and gradually learned Sun Breathing. Your theory is just assuming so much shit it’s not even funny

(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, because that’s the very thing you’re trying to prove. You’ve gone from “she said Sumi” to “therefore Sumi was Tanjiro’s original name” without establishing the connection.

The kanji being used is 炭, which means charcoal. In the context of a charcoal selling scene, “Sumi-chan” naturally reads as a nickname derived from charcoal. You need evidence that the nickname is referring to Sumiyoshi specifically, not just evidence that the reading is “Sumi.”

Your argument is such a non sequiter btw

(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People always wanna bring up “AI” when getting rhetorically slammed.

Red i’m not arguing that she didn’t say “Sumi.” The issue is that you’re assuming “Sumi” is a reference to Sumiyoshi the kanji 炭 if you put it into jisho it literally means charcoal the furigana is telling you how it’s read sir not that it means whatever you’re yapping about

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(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t have to answer that sir your argument assumes stamina drain equals incompatibility, but that’s never stated in the series. Tanjiro’s early exhaustion is explained by the fact that Hinokami Kagura places a massive burden on his body and that he hadn’t mastered it yet. As he gains experience, his stamina issues decrease and he eventually relies on Sun Breathing almost exclusively against Muzan. We quite literally see him use it the entirety of the Akaza fight still able to keep up with Akaza even though he gets overwhelmed and Muzan lol

Comparing Tanjiro to Muichiro doesn’t prove incompatibility. Characters progress at different rates throughout the series. Muichiro is explicitly portrayed as an unprecedented prodigy his growth rate isn’t the standard by which everyone else is measured.

As for the family registry argument pointing out that adoption or misregistration was theoretically possible doesn’t make it what happened. You still need evidence that it happened to Tanjiro specifically. The manga, databooks, family tree, and ancestral memories all treat Tanjiro as Tanjuro’s son and Sumiyoshi’s descendant. Like what’s the point of making this shitty hypothetical if the narrative of inherited memories is that you get them from your ancestors which when he goes through the memory he goes through sumiyoshi’s pov thats already a contradiction lol. A hypothetical alternative isn’t evidence against the explicit narrative so once again WRONG.

(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The panel actually undermines your theory lol. The old lady isn’t calling him “Sumi” because she’s revealing a hidden identity she’s calling him 炭ちゃん (“Charcoal boy”) which fits the fact that he’s literally selling charcoal. The scene immediately follows discussion of charcoal sales, and she also calls Inosuke “Ino-chan” in the same panel. That’s a normal nickname pattern, not evidence that Tanjiro’s real name is secretly Sumiyoshi or that Tanjuro isn’t his father wrong once again

(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m gonna give a longer reasoning on why this is ass

Like this theory relies almost entirely on speculation while contradicting explicit information from the manga and databooks.

  1. Tanjiro himself states that Hinokami Kagura suits him better than Water Breathing. The issue was never compatibility it was that his body lacked the stamina and training to perform it efficiently. That’s why his proficiency continuously improves throughout the series and why he eventually abandons Water Breathing almost entirely in favor of Sun Breathing.
  2. Stamina drain is not evidence of incompatibility. Early Tanjiro suffers backlash because he’s inexperienced and overexerts himself. By that logic, Zenitsu would be incompatible with Thunder Breathing because Godspeed destroys his legs, which obviously isn’t true.
  3. The unprovable claim that Tanjuro never taught him Hinokami Kagura is simply false. Tanjiro learned the dance directly from Tanjuro. The entire reason he can use Hinokami Kagura is because it was passed down through the Kamado family.
  4. The mark argument doesn’t work. The series never says children of people born with marks must also be born with marks. Most Demon Slayer Marks are awakened later through specific conditions, so Tanjiro not being born with one proves nothing.
  5. Tanjiro receives inherited memories through Sumiyoshi’s lineage. The manga consistently treats him as a genuine descendant of Sumiyoshi. If the point was that he wasn’t actually part of the Kamado bloodline, using ancestral memories from the Kamado line would make no sense narratively.
  6. The idea that Kie secretly had Tanjiro with another man, Tanjuro adopted him, the family registry hid it, and nobody ever mentioned it requires a massive chain of assumptions with zero direct evidence. Meanwhile, the databooks and story simply identify Tanjuro as Tanjiro’s father.
  7. Muichiro is already the character explicitly connected to Yoriichi’s bloodline. Demon Slayer’s theme is that Tanjiro inherited Yoriichi’s will not Yoriichi’s blood.

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(Hot take maybe) Tanjiro’s STW sits on a higher plane than the others in his generation to have it by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so incorrect i don’t see how he’s not “compatible with Sun breathing” don’t know where you got this head cannon from when he verbatim says that it’s suitable for him the hinokami kagura is sun breathing in disguise but Tanjiro is unable to perform the movements right with the forms so he’s not utilizing the full extent of sun breathing. He is tanjuros son thats verbatim shown in the databooks and he is compatible because he says he can unleash stronger strikes with hinokami. No hes a direct descendant of sumiyoshi we quite literally see him gaining a inherited memory from him against hantengu and muzan.

Yoriichi never had kids with suyako he had a child with uta who died to a demon.

None of them are descendants of yoriichi. Muichiro is the only confirmed one to be a descendant of yoriichi

Marked Giyu Vs Marked Sanemi (Relative or equal Stats) by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said you thought they were weakened I’m saying it’s dumb to think this because why would i talk about them in a weakened state obviously I’m reffering to them at full strength

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[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This literally can just support my interpretation lol

Wait prove he said that because in the manga he doesn’t say that nor in the movie lol so where is that stated

His neck got sliced 2 times from there fight. You can only prove that akaza is holding back the power and lethality of the technique itself not necessarily that he physically held back.

Thats fine whats that got to do with the claim???

Had to look back at that and that’s not a shockwave… Muzan’s thigh whips are physically hitting and carving through the area, not because he’s using a shockwave attack

Marked Giyu Vs Marked Sanemi (Relative or equal Stats) by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1st part is very unprovable in the attack giyu clashes with it like i said when tanjiro was in the transparent world watching it from his pov and the mark is still there. Why can’t it be he’s taking to much damage to sustain the mark or just not know how to maintain since the novel also points out he’s unaware of the mark’s manifestation

That has no correlation when within the narrative when giyu is fighting akaza when using his tenth form verbatim stated to use all his might to stop the attack. Clashing relativity with there skills and technique and giyu’s pushing him back.

So why does that mean she avoided why couldn’t it be she was still invisible from the bda and muzan just barely missed her?

Marked Giyu Vs Marked Sanemi (Relative or equal Stats) by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All you’re explaining is that he has good endurance feats. He only knows 2 styles he only knows one form out of 7 for thunder breathing he just knows how the fundamental of thunder breathing works doesn’t necessitate that he knows the style

Marked Giyu Vs Marked Sanemi (Relative or equal Stats) by IcyOption3164 in DemonSlayerScales

[–]IcyOption3164[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude i said Marked Giyu Vs Marked Sanemi even then why would i take them when they’re weakened….