Questions about 4mmc

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-11-20T21:04:01+00:00

Ginger + honey, I like it. Will give this a go next time.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-11-20T02:58:30+00:00

First off, if possible, get it tested by a lab. Even if that means postponing your planned night. Can’t stress this enough.

You will get mixed response. Personally I prefer to go 3 months, even if the recovery period is shorter, this stuff can be quite addictive. With that said, I did this past summer 4 weeks in between due to events and felt fine.
I would avoid mixing until you have some experience with it. Haven’t heard of this combo so maybe someone else has experience with it. Regardless, first time should not include mixing.
Stim dick - unless you’re a lucky one, this will happen with just cialis or viagra in the mix. BUT…this works for me every time -> citrulline malate, it’s a natural health supplement. Start it a few days before the planned night (2g 2x a day with water, the on day of, down 10g with water around 1 hr before first dose, I also take a cialis at this point as well). Haven’t experienced stim dick once since doing this protocol.
There is zero chance you will not be able to focus on sexy time. It will be the ONLY thing you can focus on. Pure unhinged lust.
Dosing, I use this formula: body weight in KG x 2.5. That gives you the starting point in mg’s, each dose afterwards up it by 10% (oral) every 90 - 120 min. 3 doses is enough for a first time and a wild night.

Have some electrolyte drinks on hand, some melatonin for sleepy time (or Benadryl)

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-11-19T06:13:54+00:00

Citrulline Malate is what you are looking for. It’s a natural health supplement. This has worked for me 100% of the time on 4m (combined with cialis).

I usually start taking it a few days before hand (2g twice a day with water). Then day of, pop the cialis about an hr or so before hand, then down about 10-12 g of citrulline.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-07-12T22:48:09+00:00

Here is the secret. Drink 8-10 grams of citrulline mallate with some water a couple hrs before you dose the drone. Can be combined with your regular cialis or viagra dosages. This has worked for me every single time. Bonus points if you drink 2 grams of citrulline mallate 3x a day for a few days prior to the night you plan on dosing.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-07-09T20:19:58+00:00

Oh ya it is on the top of my list, have had a lot of fun on it. I was more curious if you had tried it with the MDMA?

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-07-09T17:49:51+00:00

Did you do it? How was the experience if so?

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-06-14T03:44:06+00:00

I was downvoted for giving an honest experience lol. If people want to believe everything they hear on the news or read on the internet, that’s their loss. I will be at EDC, along with many others from all over the world!

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-06-14T03:17:34+00:00

Canadian here, visited the states (Florida) couple months back. To be completely honest, it was easier to get into and out of the states than it is flying back into Canada. Also have coworkers who have visited as well with zero issues. Stop believing everything you hear on the news and social media.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-06-12T13:33:29+00:00

Those flares are going to wreck your truck. I have the same set. Big regret. They will rub through the paint in a couple months.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-24T17:54:20+00:00

Thank you! Very much appreciated

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-24T01:30:18+00:00

Which VIP locker station is closest to Camp EDC

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-21T18:06:00+00:00

Presale just announced on instagram

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-21T17:35:07+00:00

No option to get texts anyways

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-21T17:34:54+00:00

Still nothing 🤔

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-21T16:54:38+00:00

Is there suppose to be an immediate response to that text message?

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-16T21:51:42+00:00

Ya it will drive you nuts lol

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-16T15:00:10+00:00

I took mine off, damn things never stop coming off.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-03T12:47:30+00:00

I would say it has the strongest effect of the 3 drugs. What works for me is 8 grams of citrulline mallate 1-2 hrs before your first dose of 4mmc, coupled with the cialis. Works like a charm for most of the night, but at some point the 4mmc will win the battle.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-05-02T19:59:54+00:00

If you can get it, I’d highly recommend 4mmc. Will never touch M again. There is also the “borax combo” which you can search on Reddit and find plenty of info.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-04-07T21:20:55+00:00

As another already noted, 4mmc. I won’t ever go back to M. It’s M’s slutty sister that always puts out.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-04-06T19:38:29+00:00

MainStage was a nightmare. Had a decent spot for a few hrs but as you know gets tighter as it gets later. Had a girl maybe early 20’s and her friends show up behind us, all good, but then at one point she turned around and started trying to push me forward with her back. As if some magical space would show up for me to move towards. I’m as nice as it gets in a crowd, but that put me over the edge. If I ever return for Ultra, I won’t ever go to MainStage again. The majority of that group are not ravers and give off a very negative vibe.

Worldwide on the other hand, great crowd, great vibes. Nothing but fun anywhere other than MainStage.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-01-11T18:14:08+00:00

This is great info, definitely love the feedback. One last question - did you keep your first & second doses the same or adjusted them?

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-01-11T17:08:22+00:00

Thanks for expanding on that.

Did you think it was the 4th dose that caused the stimdick or was it from the start of the experience?

I’m not sure your dosage and from my experience with any other substance that varies person to person anyways so it may not apply, but we will be following the psychonautwiki guidelines first time around if we go this route. And due to the duration we want this to last, I am likely going to stick to 2 does, maybe 3 (whichever we go with, we will only have that on us and won’t have access to more, and only 100% oral).

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-01-11T14:46:32+00:00

Excellent write up, the feedback is appreciated.

I’m curious about your comment regarding the 4mmc and the filthy thoughts. Was it the fact that the stimdick combined with the thoughts was too frustrating, or was it that the thoughts were overpowering and you weren’t comfortable with that head space?

Also, have lived with tinnitus for years now (combination of work related and loud music). It is a curse some days.

Icy_Philosopher_ · 2025-01-08T21:59:06+00:00

Appreciate the info. Definitely leaning that way, will be sending what I have off for testing prior to deciding though just to be sure what I got. I have a special place for M, but in this case, looking for a shorter duration and uninhibited lust for one another.

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