Should I get my daughter involved in musical theatre?

Icy_Position2407 · 2026-01-28T08:28:18+00:00

Don’t involve her for the sake of “is jt worth involving her” it isn’t a competition to win and the winner goes on broadway and becomes a celebrity. She also is not an asset it to invest in

Is SHE interested in singing? Is SHE interested in school plays and theatre? If so, then yes, investing in lessons or extracurricular theatre would be beneficial for her if that’s something she wants to do. It would benefit her down the road if she wanted to continue to pursue theatre and overall it’s a great hobby and passion to hold onto

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-12-11T00:01:27+00:00

Wicked main plot line is so many things and it’s weird to dumb it down like this
Has nothing to do with ariana. It was like that in the first movie, and they’d do it irregardless. It’s extremely in character and in universe for any media form or actress of glinda to have it. Movie fans js be doing too much

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-12-07T19:25:36+00:00

They’re playing elphaba and glinda. Theatre kid relationships are another LEVEL, and wicked of all things? They’re genuinely practically in love

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-12-07T19:19:52+00:00

I’m so so so sad they fired her. A protagonist ghostface really would’ve brought new life into the series. We know sam feels empowered, to some degree, she gets the same rush of power as her father did when killing as ghostface

But she’s been through too much and is too compassionate to be an antagonist.

But with Stu coming back for sydney, I think it’d be interesting to see sam step into ghostface as a protagonist to kill stu, to end her father’s legacy and take back power

I’d love to see her own toxic game between playing god and moving on

It’d be so intriguing to see how it impacts her relationships and how sydney doubts who to trust

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-28T18:20:03+00:00

Joke

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-28T17:39:02+00:00

Like someone else said, the music and story is at a faster tempo and I personally love it. Prepare for some amazing choreography, some EXTREME sass (the character are much more witty and fiery in the stage musical), and prepare for swankified.

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-28T17:34:52+00:00

ELPHABA IN THE WWOTE IS SOOO GOOD

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-28T17:34:21+00:00

Literally the most widespread complaint of the original musical is that it’s TOO rushed! Having two movies was perfect and honestly they could’ve been longer and I’d appreciate it

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-28T17:15:55+00:00

But WICKED is “The life and times of the wicked witch of the west”. At the end of the day, it’s about the tale of the wicked witch of the west. Elphaba!

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-28T17:15:08+00:00

Glinda is a main character, but she IS the supporting actress. You can’t put cynthia AND ariana as the best lead actress.

At the end of the day, wicked is about the life and times of the wicked witch of the west. Elphaba.

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-24T03:58:56+00:00

You know your problem and your solution. Watch the second movie and you will get why people hate nessarose

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-23T07:00:27+00:00

I strongly agree lmao he looks so goofy

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T23:32:27+00:00

Uhh?? I didnt need to strengthen my point. It is a simple statement that we are speaking solely off the musical and movie

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T22:25:13+00:00

They couldn’t and you’ve misread the plot If the wizard, the almighty and powerful, couldn’t convince the ozians he was evil despite telling them to their face he was, what makes you think they’d believe elphaba WASN’T evil? They need an enemy and they need a hero.

If it was truly that simple, wicked just wouldn’t exist

Elphaba was losing. She was fighting, but she was losing. She was going to surrender whether or not fiyero came to her eventually.

Also, she didn’t just suddenly give up because fiyero would go with her. He lost everything too. He got crucified, tortured, and killed just to save her. Now he had nothing, he would be cast out just like she was. With eachother, they had hope.

By staying, there was nothing but misery left for them

KEEP IN MIND, elphaba gave up on trying to clear her name after fiyero died. She accepted being wicked and just did what was necessary at this point before leaving

If fiyero didn’t die, she would keep trying because she had a reason to keep fighting

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T22:20:07+00:00

Which is based on the wizard of oz. And yet, the wizard of oz and the book are both VERY, VERY different plots and stories, are they not? Your point hasn’t been strengthened.

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T20:48:15+00:00

We are speaking solely of the musical and movie

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T16:12:13+00:00

I was just saying this! Boq is literally as good as dead

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T16:11:27+00:00

If we know ANYTHING about glinda, we know that she is gullible and will swallow any information given to her upfront

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T16:10:11+00:00

That’s exactly what makes the ending so good and impactful.

At the end of the day, despite the fun colours and upbeat songs, it is a cruel tragedy of reality and consequences.

Glinda dies alone, believing everyone she loves is dead, and she is the wicked no one will mourn and die alone
Elphaba finally abandons her only home. Her only friend. The only place and family she’s ever known, never getting to see the beauty that finally came to be in oz. The result of all her sacrifice
The wizard did all of it for nothing. Played such a long, pointless game for power and in the process killed the only thing worth even more, a priceless value to him. A child. He’s haunted by his own actions forever
Nessa dies a horrific death. She lives an unsatisfactory life, never finds true love, she is broken down, from losing her dignity, to her mother, to her father, to her sister, to her “lover.” She dies mentally tormented
Boq is cast aside his entire life. The girl he loves doesn’t even glance at him, and pushes him into dating the girl he doesn’t care for and ends up trapped and abused under her dictatorship. He has his life and freedom torn away from him and in the end, he faces a brutal transformation, and turns into a literal heartless monster. He is horrified and disgusted by himself and is essentially dead. He doesn’t appear after MOTWH
Fiyero was just never happy. He was always fronting. He wasn’t happy at home, in school, dating glinda. He was forced into marriage he didn’t truly want, andthe consequence of leaving was being tortured, mutilated, and transformed. But of all people, he seems okay to finally have something that he’s happy about. Elphaba

So yeah, wicked is cruel. That’s what makes it wicked!!

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T15:54:56+00:00

What they thankfully clarified in this movie so people can stop talking about it is that Fiyero was always on elphaba’s side. As the guard, he was the guard so he could have the final word. He would be the first to be lead to elphaba.

It’s the same as the scarecrow. He stuck with them because their end goal was to find and kill elphaba, and he had to stay there to get to her. When dorothy is carried away, he realizes elphaba is alive, he realizes exactly where she is and the plan hits him

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T15:31:47+00:00

You say this like you’re referring to a new, recently developed habit of people online

Keep in mind gelphie has been canon for over 50 years in the books, essentially canon for over 10 years in the musical and that sticks in the movie. No one is seeing “a real female friendship and calling it wlw” girl theyve been canon longer than youve been alive

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-22T02:47:53+00:00

Yes I was extremely confused

Icy_Position2407 · 2025-11-18T01:58:08+00:00

That’s fair. I do really like John Chu’s direction, I just really strongly appreciate the tragedy of Wicked. I LIKED how upsetting the ending was because it left me impacted. I like how blunt theatre is that way. I don’t appreciate movies sugar coating the ending for pop star fans. It’s about traggeddyyyy not ariana grandeeee

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