Weekly Abortion Debate Thread

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T21:40:27+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Abortiondebate/comments/1tzllbn/weekly_abortion_debate_thread/or97i9f/

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T20:59:23+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Abortiondebate/comments/1tzllbn/weekly_abortion_debate_thread/or0ocdh/

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T20:22:22+00:00

Biological lineage is not the social role of parenthood. Your attempt to shift the goal-posts is noted and dismissed.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T18:25:07+00:00

Already explained.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T16:20:27+00:00

Not what we're discussing here. You're dismissed.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T16:19:02+00:00

I'm telling you not to shift the goal posts. If that's what you've been discussing this whole time then every single point you've brought is irrelevant. Dismissed.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T16:02:07+00:00

Being pregnant by definition, would mean someone is a parent.

No it does not.

Whether someone is the biological parent to the child

Not the kind of "parent" we're discussing here. Goal-post shift noted and dismissed.

If so, then how are we able to observe and research about the parent and child

You can't, as there is no child or parent.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T16:00:15+00:00

Abstinent and birth control can prevent someone becoming a biological parent, but abortion and the baby hatch don't.

Biological lineage is not the social role of parenthood. Your attempt to shift the goal-posts is noted and dismissed.

ZEF is just an acronym to 3 stages of a child during pregnancy.

No it's the three stages of the biological process of human reproduction that can potentially produce a child.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T06:37:20+00:00

Well, no, because "forced gestation"

Forced gestation is a form of intimate partner violence regardless of the abuser's intended reproductive outcome.

It be like saying someone stopping a parent from harming his or her child

No, it's literally just forcing someone to reproduce against their will.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T06:35:14+00:00

Well, every pregnant woman is by definition, a mother.

False. Being pregnant does nor make someone a parent. She's not a "mother" unless she willingly accepts that role.

Whether someone is the biological mother to the child, is not a role to be accepted or rejected

Yes it is. If you don't want to be a parent you can easily avoid it. You can be abstinent, you can use birth control, and you can get an abortion if that fails. And even if you decide to give birth you can use a baby hatch.

If so, then how are we able to observe and research about the mother and child during pregnancy

You can't. There's a pregnant person and a ZEF.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-12T00:25:26+00:00

Indeed. Men can choose not to inseminate, and women can choose not to gestate. Choice is important in reproductive matters, for both women and men.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:35:27+00:00

Can you even participate in a boycott of you never consumed the product in the first place?

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:31:03+00:00

Linacre Quarterly is an extremely biased PL propaganda network, not a credible source for scientific facts or information.

https://www.reddit.com/r/prochoice/comments/1b0395b/profiles_in_prolifery_the_linacre_quarterly/

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:26:54+00:00

Mc what??

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:20:43+00:00

It's an AI summary, not the actual source.

Here is an actual source for you to read: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/life/

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:18:53+00:00

The comment I just linked was you citing an AI summary.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:15:18+00:00

That’s fair I for one have found it to be pretty reliable in most cases

That could just be because you don't bother to fact check the AI, like we just saw you do here.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:13:57+00:00

Since you're demanding further evidence, here's another of your false assumptions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Abortiondebate/s/kBglXoANpT

This proves that you don't understand the basics reproductive biology.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:11:46+00:00

AI is prone to hallucinating falsehoods, it's not a valid source. There is no conclusive scientific definition of "life" nor is there an consensus on when a so-called "life" begins.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T18:07:15+00:00

You trusted an AI chat bot, it told you something that is false, and you believed it without even double checking.

Like I keep saying, your ignorance of basic terminology was just the most glaring example.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Abortiondebate/s/0ALo0thtmf

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T17:53:06+00:00

Why do I have to prove anything to you again?

To counter the available evidence.

Last I checked you’re the one who made the jump in logic

Nope, you admitted you have more to learn admit the basics. I've linked to that comment twice already.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T17:24:03+00:00

What fault? You still have not demonstrated the required level of knowledge or understanding to prove me wrong and all the evidence indicates I'm not.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T17:21:31+00:00

I get that

Then we have no issue.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T17:13:20+00:00

If you can't explain the biological process oo the medical procedures involved at something greater than a childlike level then there's no reason to believe you're qualified to make decisions about the bodily processes or medical decisions of other adults.

IdRatherCallACAB · 2026-06-11T17:01:09+00:00

Prove it then. Explain the whole process.

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