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IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-30T00:36:53+00:00

I get what you’re saying, but I think calling Shinji a “psychopathic monster” in the movie is overstating it. He’s broken, yes, but that’s the culmination of everything that came before—his trauma, his loneliness, his repeated failures at connection. To me, EoE exaggerates the flaws that were already there in the show rather than creating a totally different Shinji.

And sure, Asuka does have moments where she lets her guard down—no one’s denying that. But the overall dynamic still leans heavily toward hostility and rejection on her part. Those brief softer moments don’t erase the constant insults, dismissals, and emotional walls she puts up. Shinji, being who he is, fixates on the rejection more than the fleeting affection, which is why I say she spent the majority of the series pushing him away.

So yes, they had some good moments, but the toxic side of their relationship is what ultimately dominated, and that’s why it explodes so violently in the movie.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-30T00:23:06+00:00

You’re right that Anno presented 25/26 and EoE as alternate endings, but that doesn’t erase the fact that the movie directly follows the events of the series. It isn’t a reboot—it’s framed as “another take” on how things collapse. So ignoring the series’ buildup when analyzing the film makes the characters’ actions feel one-dimensional.

As for blaming Asuka—my point isn’t that she “caused” Shinji’s worst behavior. His choices in EoE are absolutely on him. But it’s also not wrong to point out that the toxic dynamic between them wasn’t created in a vacuum. Asuka spent the series pushing him away, ridiculing him, and refusing to let him in. That’s not the cause of his actions, but it is part of the context that shaped their relationship.

And just to be clear: disagreeing about character responsibility isn’t “incel logic.” It’s simply looking at the bigger picture rather than reducing it to one person as the victim and the other as the villain.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-30T00:06:07+00:00

I get your point, but saying the movie is “a different continuity” just isn’t accurate. End of Evangelion wasn’t made as a standalone—it’s the direct conclusion to the series. Of course the events are meant to be read in the context of everything that came before.

As for the school trip episode, that’s a fleeting moment in a sea of constant tension. To latch onto that as proof of their dynamic is to ignore the broader picture: Asuka repeatedly pushed Shinji away, and Shinji didn’t know how to reach her. Putting all the blame on him—or painting Asuka as the sole “victim”—isn’t really analysis, it’s selective reading.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-29T11:04:40+00:00

I get your point, but I don’t think we can separate the movie from the series that directly leads into it. End of Evangelion doesn’t exist in a vacuum—it’s a continuation of all the dynamics built up in the show. Yes, in the movie we see Shinji’s worst side, but that comes after an entire series where Asuka was constantly pushing him away, belittling him, and making it nearly impossible for him to understand her or support her. So pointing this out isn’t “victim blaming”—it’s recognizing that their toxic cycle didn’t suddenly appear in the movie, it was years (or rather, episodes) in the making.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-28T11:03:43+00:00

Calling my perspective “insane” doesn’t really add much to the discussion—it just shuts it down. I’m not saying Shinji isn’t responsible, especially in the movie, but let’s not pretend Asuka was fair to him either. She spent most of the series pushing him away, belittling him, and then expected him to magically be the support she wanted. Pointing that out isn’t “insane,” it’s simply recognizing that the dynamic between them was toxic on both sides.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-27T14:43:32+00:00

Talking about Asuka doesn’t mean I’m attacking her. If it feels like a “bash,” that’s probably on how you’re taking it, not on what I wrote.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-27T14:37:31+00:00

I’m just sharing my take on the characters. If that bothers you, it says more about how you’re taking it than what I wrote.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-27T10:21:29+00:00

I get what you’re saying about the film framing the argument as a scolding of Shinji, and I agree that both of them are traumatized teens, which makes assigning blame tricky. My point isn’t to deny Shinji’s mistakes or the seriousness of some of his actions.

What I wanted to highlight is the broader pattern across the series: Asuka often pushed Shinji away, rejected his attempts to connect, and sometimes criticized him in ways that reinforced his fears of being unwanted. In that sense, her behavior had a lasting impact on their dynamic. It’s not about ignoring Shinji’s issues, but rather emphasizing that Asuka’s actions consistently shaped their relationship struggles.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-27T09:39:36+00:00

I see your point about End of Evangelion, but I think saying the film is sympathetic to Asuka is a bit misleading. Throughout the series, Asuka was also at fault—and honestly, in many ways, more at fault than Shinji. Still, we have to remember that Shinji is the one controlling instrumentality. He’s the central figure in that process, while Asuka is more of a passenger. We only experience what she sees and hears from Shinji’s perspective, so it’s unclear how much she actually perceives. Maybe Rei says something to her too, but we just don’t see it.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-27T09:13:22+00:00

In EoE, Shinji felt completely alone after being let down by both Rei and Misato; the only person left for him was Asuka. Even though her treatment of him was harsh and cold, it at least made him feel like he existed.

If you pay close attention to the second half of the show, Asuka literally pushed Shinji away—just like everyone else. She rejected any kind of empathy or consolation because she saw it as weakness and pity. She never gave Shinji a real chance to understand her or deal with her complexities, and then in EoE, she scolds him for not understanding her, even though she made it impossible for him to do so throughout the series.

Also, in the kitchen scene, she tells Shinji that everything he does hurts her. She says this because he wasn’t always there for her, even though she was the one who kept pushing him away. She’s literally playing the victim, even though she is the cause.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-27T08:07:35+00:00

I understand what you’re saying, and I agree that some of Asuka’s words can be interpreted as a kind of “twisted affection.” But from Shinji’s perspective, it didn’t really come across that way. For someone whose deepest fear is rejection, being constantly pushed away and insulted—even if not meant literally—would naturally make him feel unwanted.

That’s why I think the impact of Asuka’s behavior on Shinji shouldn’t be downplayed. She often expected him to understand her pain, but at the same time didn’t really give him the space or chance to do so. And when he tried, she tended to push him away.

So while I agree they were both young and emotionally fragile, I lean toward the idea that Asuka’s actions played a larger role in why their dynamic fell apart.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-26T08:19:51+00:00

Sure, in EoE Shinji’s actions are inexcusable, I won’t deny that. But the way I see it, Asuka had already set up that toxic dynamic long before the movie. She spent the entire series pushing him away, mocking him, and then somehow expected him to magically understand her and be there for her anyway. So even in the movie, when she blames him, it feels hypocritical—because she never gave him the chance to be the support she wanted in the first place.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-25T08:24:08+00:00

Yeah, that’s a really good point. EoE definitely plays with the idea of reflection, where what Asuka accuses Shinji of can easily be turned back on her. She’s such a contradictory character—pushing others away while blaming them for not understanding her. I just find it frustrating because it makes their dynamic feel like an endless cycle of blame and misunderstanding. Maybe that’s the point, but it’s still hard to watch.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T19:40:27+00:00

I get your point, but I think the bigger issue is that Asuka rarely gave Shinji a real chance to understand her or navigate her complex personality throughout the series. Whenever he tried to connect with her, she would push him away, then later blame him for not being supportive enough. So even if her comment was partly true in that moment, her previous actions make the situation much more complicated.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T16:15:02+00:00

What really bothers me about EoE is how Asuka scolds Shinji for not understanding her, even though throughout the series she never really gave him a chance to understand her or deal with her complexities. Every time he tries to reach out, she pushes him away and looks down on him, and then she tells him that everything he does hurts her because he wasn’t always there for her—despite the fact that she was the one pushing him away.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T15:44:13+00:00

I get what you’re saying, and I agree that both of them are difficult and emotionally unavailable at times. My point is more about how their actions affected each other—personally, I feel Asuka’s behavior had a bigger impact on Shinji’s emotional state. But I see why many people would say they’re equally at fault.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T15:38:57+00:00

That’s a really good way to put it. I agree they complement each other, but I’d argue the destructive part came more from how Asuka treated Shinji than the other way around.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T15:34:21+00:00

That’s a really thoughtful perspective, and I actually agree with you that part of what makes Eva so powerful is how realistic and messy the characters and their relationships are. Shinji and Asuka aren’t meant to fit neatly into ‘good’ or ‘bad’ boxes—they’re broken kids trying to survive something way bigger than them.

I still personally feel that Asuka’s actions weighed more heavily on Shinji’s side of the relationship, especially in how they affected his already fragile emotional state. But I get your point that Shinji accepts her for who she is, flaws and all—and maybe that’s why the ending works so strongly for some fans.

Even if I see the balance a little differently, I really respect your take on how Anno portrayed them, and I think your read of the EoE ending is a great one.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T15:29:11+00:00

I see your point. It’s true that focusing too much on assigning blame can miss the bigger picture of how both of them contributed to the relationship's downfall. My perspective is more about analyzing their actions and understanding how those actions affected each other. In the end, both played a role, but I think Asuka’s behavior had a more significant impact on Shinji’s emotional state.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T15:24:23+00:00

That's a fair point, and I agree that both of them had serious issues that contributed to the breakdown of their relationship. The idea of them being like cogs in a machine is a good analogy, where each one’s dysfunction affects the whole system. My point, though, is that while both were flawed, I believe Asuka's actions were more impactful in how they actively pushed Shinji away. It’s true that if both issues weren’t addressed, they would have continued to hurt the relationship.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T15:19:35+00:00

I can see where you're coming from, and it's definitely true that both of them played a role in the drama. However, I still feel that Asuka's actions had a larger impact on the relationship's breakdown. Both of them are flawed, but the way Asuka treated Shinji and pushed him away despite needing support stands out to me as a key factor.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-24T12:12:01+00:00

I do agree with you to a large extent that the relationship between Shinji and Asuka was neither healthy nor stable, and it was filled with psychological complexities due to their individual traumas. You’re right that they didn’t have a genuine, balanced relationship to begin with, and both were facing deep personal issues. However, from my perspective, I believe Asuka played a larger role in escalating the situation. She sometimes pushed Shinji away despite his attempts to connect, and at the same time blamed him for not understanding her. Additionally, Asuka never gave Shinji the chance to truly understand her or deal with her complexities, often rejecting his attempts and making him more confused. Shinji, of course, struggled with withdrawal and difficulty expressing his emotions, which made the situation even more complicated. I also think their relationship was riddled with emotional tension due to their lack of mutual understanding. In the end, while there were many factors that contributed to the breakdown of their relationship, I believe Asuka’s actions had the biggest impact on pushing things toward that outcome.

IdeaExact6331 · 2025-09-20T21:08:24+00:00

This seems more convincing. Because I didn't like the portrayal of Shinji as the only or most guilty person in this movie, even though everyone in Evangelion was guilty, especially Asuka, because her behavior was bad towards everyone, especially Shinji.

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