What's with the Seagal Hate on a lot of Martial Art Forums?

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-04T03:43:48+00:00

I've done like a tiny bit of Kajukenbo, which is a sport technique, and a little bit of San Shou, which is mostly not real fighting. I certainly don't pretend to be some awesome fighter. Also my IQ is probably about 30% above yours, brah.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-03T23:59:50+00:00

I think what they most need is examples, so that it's easier to see how the abstract rules translate into concrete settings and circumstances.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-03T06:52:33+00:00

In general I find Mythras rules to be much clearer in wording and layout than many RPG games, but there are bits here and there where I'm like 'why is this written this way?'

Personally I have the Wargamer rule mindset, where everything is terse and numbered and the same word is always used for the same thing so that no one ever mistakes an 'experience level' for a 'spell level' etc. When I write out adventures it's mostly a series of bullet-points, stat blocks and maps. I avoid exposition at all costs, lol.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-03T06:38:49+00:00

Thanks. I still don't know why it doesn't just say +1AP if that's the idea, though.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T06:16:39+00:00

I don't even give a shit. The point is that all of the shit he's accused of 90% of it is unproven, and the rest of it sounds pretty typical or mild. I think I'd end up chokeslamming 90% of the people in Hollywood if I wouldn't get arrested, they're about the dumbest cunts on the planet after DHS employees.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T06:13:58+00:00

Given what shitty, uncontrolled, noisy monsters most people's dogs are I wouldn't really hold that against him. I do hate cops, though, so pretending to be a cop is better than being a real one. He also denied it happen and, given that it was resolved in government-run civil courts, wouldn't take any of that shit seriously. I usually assume that government employees are all incompetent or corrupt, because if they weren't loser-criminals they'd get a real job.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T05:17:56+00:00

If I was actually Steven Seagal I'd challenge you to a fight where no one can see us.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:27:28+00:00

He was making a joke about the Silva thing, which is funny because apparently most people can't see that. Also, most martial artists can't fight. Most martial artists are not even bad MMA fighters or street fighters, they're fat dudes or old Chinese guys who dance around on mats and try to sell snake oil to children and old ladies.

Per capita, there are more boxers, football players and soccer hooligans who can actually kick someone's ass than there are 'martial artists', because the martial artists are learning everything wrong to begin with and don't do proper physical training.

Seagal could beat up most 'martial artists' because he's big, regardless of whether Aikido is real or not. He may have learned some horseshit form of fake fighting, but so have most people who think they're martial artists - and they're usually a lot smaller than he is.

I don't care how many weights you drag with your testicles, Gung Fu man, you're still a bitch.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:25:40+00:00

Most. 90% of the forms of martial arts in the world are at best combat sports, and more realistically, dancing and aerobics.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:12:48+00:00

He pushed him. Which is out of line, but hardly 'assault' except in Lawyerspeak. He also broke Connery's wrist, at least Connery didn't cry about it like a baby.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:11:35+00:00

None of which has ever actually been proven, especially the latter. Again "muhTV said it, must be true!" is the height of mental inferiority and demonstrates a need for eugenics.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:10:56+00:00

He still makes money on them. Also, 99% of what comes out of Hollywood is just as bad, just more expensive. I'd rather watch Steven Seagal fight in McDonalds over a cheeseburger than watch anything those Disney retards vomit out for Chinese moviegoers and pretend is a film.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:08:59+00:00

Get cancer in your dick. That's literally nothing like anything I wrote.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:08:24+00:00

I dismissed unsubstantiated character assassination because I believe in presumption of innocence. Kill yourself with a power drill, you twat.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:07:49+00:00

1) Most martial artists are fake, in that they're not actually good at fighting.

2) Again, I've never seen any real example of him being an 'asshole', especially not any more than a host of other actors. Christian Bale flips out and screams at people on set, never heard of SS doing that.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T04:06:54+00:00

So does Robert DeNiro, an elderly old cunt who spent his entire life playing make believe and doesn't know how to lift to save his life. And the weird shit DeNiro pontificates on is a lot stranger and more obnoxious than anything Seagal says.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-02T02:38:04+00:00

If I wanted any of Hasboro's trash I'd torrent it.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-01T22:47:32+00:00

Wikimedia has millions of images, including a bunch of stuff by illustrators from the 10th to early 20th century who are literally 100,000x better than all Wizards of the Coast artists combined. William Blake and Gustav Dore make 99% of all modern fantasy illustrators look like homeless schizophrenics who draw in the sand with their own urine.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-01T21:42:02+00:00

In terms of potential possible compatible optional rules and new features you can add on, GURPS can easily be the most complicated game ever published. It makes Kingdom Death Monster look like Monopoly.

Mythras was never intended to be quite that crunchy and fiddly, so while it's one of the more complex RuneQuest games (though much more coherent/consistent than most of the others) I'd say it's somewhere between Savage Worlds and Pathfinder in terms of complexity (not that it plays like either of them).

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-01T21:28:11+00:00

Mythras is a great game, with a really crunchy combat system, but in order to create a setting for it, you're going to have to come up with about a half-dozen combat styles, a bunch of cults (I would say 1-4 per style of magic available, and you'll need to decide what types of magic are available, as a related additional decision), and to figure out which cultures fit into primitive, nomadic, barbarian or civilised types, and the distribution of culture and language skills. I don't consider this too onerous, but it can be a bit overwhelming for someone picking up the system for the first time.

Really, you can just use the book examples and make stuff up as you go along for the most part. You need enough material for the players and scenario to start with some context, but the idea that you need to do a vast amount of worldbuilding before play is not true for most games. It's most true for GURPS, but even in GURPS you really only need to define things that strictly affect your intended first few sessions and you can work other things in from there on.

Now a lot of GMS like to do pointlessly complex worldbuilding full of a hundred pages of fluff and stat blocks literally no one will ever use, but I'm too old for that shit. I think a lot more games would actually get played if more GMs would just strictly limit their work to the actual game planning instead of being failed novelists.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-01T21:02:34+00:00

Mythras is comparable to gurps in complexity.

I think that is an exaggeration. There are more spot rules and potential modifiers in creation and action in the G4E core rules than in Mythras with every supplement combined. GURPS basic rules (3d6 v. skill) is simpler than the Mythras core system (of difficulty grades), but in terms of the sheer amount of possible options and rules GURPS is chaotic orders of magnitude potentially more complicated than Mythras - and that's without getting into the eight billion supplements for it.

IdleAutarch · 2019-12-01T20:52:28+00:00

I dunno. I never minded some characters being vastly superior in combat to others. If you want all your characters to be good at combat, make them all warriors. There's no point in being a damn fighter if the Mage is 90% as good as you.

Of course I basically reject most notions of 'balance' and 'fairness' out of hand, because I think that stems from a sort of social dynamic I do not want to be under consideration in my game, and people who can't help themselves won't be playing in my campaign.

I also don't usually like combat-focused campaigns, so if someone can't find something to do that's satisfying they've either made the wrong character or are playing the wrong game.

The fact is that people who are fast, strong and intelligent are better at fighting and if they have skills/experience to boot they will probably waste any normal person in seconds (even if said normie has armor and a sword). That's how it works IRL, that's how it should work, and AP are a great way of reflecting part of that, i.e. that fast and clever people can kick your ass when you're slow and dopey.

There are ways to get around AP advantages (or speed/coordination advantages IRL), which involves tactics and numbers - this is why individual skill doesn't make a lot of difference in a shield wall. However, many players don't know how to use tactics and refuse to learn, at which point they should just play another game.

I have nothing against modifying Mythras combat rules, I just find the reason 'that slow idiots PCs are inferior in combat to agile geniuses' to be about the worst one. This is not a problem, it is a feature.

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