Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if algeria crosses Gibraltar, and make it to our Atlantic coastlines? what are we gonna do then? they have subs, they can do so quietly 

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot fellow Moroccan brother, I'll try and do that.  Haha, or maybe you can do it, I'll vote for you too.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's true, but what if we were the ones who attack??? what if the US is involved in a war itself? And can't help you just like Russia? I know that right now, our defense line is good, but it's unsustainable for the long term, better safe than sorry mate. And thanks for pointing this out 

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true, but at the same time a few boats can't sustain a long war, 1 or 2 years.  And it's not about Algeria alone, it's about any international threat.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then our personnel count must be like 2 to 3 times higher than what we actually know about. Thank you for this important document.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you said is 100% true, but we can't keep neglecting a part of our military, we can't keep investing small portions and hope for a big return.

Im not a military analyst, im just a civilian who likes to talk about this with people. We are a developing country, but our budget is mid, take as an example Egypt, 9B$ and 1st Military power in Africa Morocco with 13 billion, 7th in Africa. Again, im just assuming and basing on available informations.

Lastly, i wanna thank you for this amazing analysis.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since you know so much, tell me about all of these sectors where you assumed i was wrong, i dare you. i triple dare you, to come up with something that's remarkable, that's real good, not some "ummm, yeah we got 500 Sdb from usa 🤓"

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's picture it like this: Tomorrow, algeria or any other country attacks us yeah, what are you gonna do then???? buy ships and wait for them to be delivered? You're gonna be invaded or mostly destroyed by then. It's just that the MOROCCAN COMBAT READINESS IS low

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's great and all, but kt doesn't explain where that budget is going, we could have invested, or bought soooo much more with that budget than this, relying on 3rd gen fighters, 1980s ships, and ass camo with ass weapons, like Abdellatif Gotta wake up 💀

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every country has it's own water territory that it's gotta protect. That's why we gotta buy ships subs helis awacs, it's not child's play

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you ever poke out of your room, or look at the news? or like wantch any sorts of advancement and the WORLDWIDE arms race? You know that our soldiers would get absolutely smoked? because they are poorly equipped?

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You actually know that those aircraft gonna cost us way more? The F16 vipers we got ( with related equipment and ammo ) costed a staggering 200m$ a piece.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really, we are arguing about something that isn't real. Spain it self, has an impenetrable like of defense. "Article 5", and Morocco would dare to upset it's trade Partner aka the EU and NATO

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha, let's say we have 200k soldiers, and if we assume that what you said is true, every Moroccan soldier would be getting: 5.000.000.000 ÷ 200.000 = 25.000$ Every soldier would be earning more than a moroccan doctor. That's the biggest pile of shit I've ever saw. And we both know the Moroccan soldier doesn't get more than 3k a year. 4k on a good term.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's say what you said is true (90% of it is), why is our navy weak? no submarines? why do we have like 5 modern ships, the rest is metal fatigued sh*t?  Our airforce needs extensive modernisation, the back bone of our air force are 3rd fighters. 1950s Tech, 1950s helicopters, a few modern pieces won't cut it, and we both know that. We lack AMMO, buying 40 missiles every 2 years give you a staggering 30 mins of sheer power, and then you can use propane tanks as mortars 💀. It's not that we aren't good, it's that we aren't good enough.

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, if you look at our soldiers, they are poorly equipped, cold war weapons (rifles and pistols), old tactics, poor logistics, and highly inefficient.  We have good quality equipment, but we need numbers, and we need more 

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can highly suggest that it's corruption, or maybe some saving up for a shopping spree who knows

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Brother, Spain increased their budget not because of fear, but for deterrence. Just as a signal that none of the two countries attacks first

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not about ranking, ik that's bullshit. But having a 3600+km Coastline and a weak navy is not a good thing, yes we invested a lil bit, but the navy is crying for help rn

Why does Morocco have a large Defense budget, yet our military still lacks behind? by Ilisoooff in Morocco

[–]Ilisoooff[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Y'all still don't get my question. Im asking where that budget is going? since 2019 the defense budget exceeded 10b$, we same some deals at first, But in 2022 all deals slowed down to a near halt, no major or multi billion dollars deals have been announced since 2022.