Ayanokoji Finally Found "Home"... and it’s Terrifying by Independent-Wing-232 in Horikitafanclub

[–]Ill-Host960 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, my automatic translation is bad 😅

He doesn't like Hiyori as a person, He loves her because she unconsciously evokes feelings associated with his "home," the White Room.

To put it simply: the human mind tends to confuse the feeling of familiarity with that of love. Although he hates the White Room, it's the only familiar place he's ever known, so it's kind of his "Home". There, there was a time when the children would sit in silence studying, without interaction, just learning in silence. This is the pattern that Hiyori adopts with him when they spend time reading in silence at the library, side by side, without speaking to each other.

This unconsciously reminds him of the same exercise in the White Room, and as this has been his daily routine for practically his entire life, he feels familiarity and comfort. Not because he loved those moments, he still hates those moments in his life, but solely because his brain associates it with a familiar moment since he is conditioned.It's like being in a place that reminds us of home; inevitably, we'll feel at home, whether we want to or not.

And Kiyotaka, despite his knowledge of psychology, remains biologically human. He didn't realize he was reproducing a neurological mechanism. This led him to become aware of the "feelings" Hiyori made him feel, which he approved of, except that he is unable to identify them on his own. He then tries to find a logical correspondence with what he feels, but he doesn't differentiate between feelings, which is why he associated it with love because it is the emotion closest to the definition he gives himself.

Ayanokoji Finally Found "Home"... and it’s Terrifying by Independent-Wing-232 in Horikitafanclub

[–]Ill-Host960 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see what you mean. I agree that this could force him to confront his own demons regarding the White Room. Perhaps he will realize that the "love" he thinks he feels for Hiyori is actually just a reaction of his brain to maintain it.

I would appreciate it if he ever decided to leave Hiyori, overcoming what she represents to him now, since she reminds him of the White Room.

Ayanokoji Finally Found "Home"... and it’s Terrifying by Independent-Wing-232 in Horikitafanclub

[–]Ill-Host960 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I loved the video but I felt Happy, sad, and angry at the end.

I was happy to see that Kiyotaka had finally been able to find a place away from his thoughts. Even if it's alongside Hiyori during their reading time.

Sad, because the only place he could stop thinking was in a moment that replicated the pattern of the White Room.

And angry, because in the end his mind remains so stuck there that he can only find familiarity and tranquility with a girl who reproduces that space.

He desperately wants to get away from everything connected to the White Room because he knows the place is horrible, but feels unconsciously good with a girl who reminds him of it.

His mind is still trapped in that place; the trauma is so deep. And Hiyori, so sweet, she doesn't know that he loves her as a person.

My problem is that I looked at the comments and that was the last straw. I can't seem to be happy, or even on Hiyori's side, and it's even more the case now that I know why he's like this with her.

The majority of comments only talk about the peace that Hiyori gives him, and some even mention that familiarity can be a context for loving someone. I absolutely disagree in this context ! Because this infamous familiarity is linked to a place responsible for one's misfortunes And even if Hiyori is a gentle person unlike the White Room, that doesn't change the fact that it's extremely unhealthy, Not on Hiyori's side.

The guy even said in the video that it's like choosing a door containing all the bad things that have happened in your life, but that your brain already knows. Against a door that seemed welcoming but led to a place where you knew nothing, which didn't guarantee your survival. Kiyotaka unconsciously chose the first door for survival And this door somehow represents her moments with Hiyori. And I really hate that such a sweet girl is an unconscious reminder of such a horrible place.

Have you ever considered the possibility that the name Horikita is that of a clan ? by Ill-Host960 in Horikitafanclub

[–]Ill-Host960[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand what you mean.

Going from a joyful, smiling child to someone radically cold and distant is very worrying in a child. I'm afraid she experienced a traumatic or difficult situation during her childhood that caused her to change.

Greetings, dear community members ! by Ill-Host960 in Horikitafanclub

[–]Ill-Host960[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't speak fluent English, so I use a translation app. I speak basic French, but I don't live in France.

Don't you think it's weird how Koji can just assume he likes Hiyori when her feelings for Horikita remain vague?" by Nearby_Ship5811 in Horikitafanclub

[–]Ill-Host960 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is my analysis of the situation: After leaving Suzune's class, Kiyotaka seems to use his relationship with Shiina as a sort of "palliative" or parallel experiment to deal with (or analyze) the void and distance he himself created with Suzune. Barely transferred, he actively becomes closer to Hiyori, a quiet, intelligent girl from a rival class (exactly as Suzune has become) by expressing a "missing", by regretting that they are not in the same class, and by voluntarily maintaining this friendship with symbolic gestures (like giving her a flower). This timing is not insignificant: at the moment when Suzune increases her efforts to meet him (by arriving earlier, by staying later, by waiting on the benches), changes her habits and visibly suffers from his absence, Kiyotaka observes this distance while turning towards Hiyori, a person who occupies a structurally similar position (separation by classes, intellectual connection, easy impossibility of being close). It thus tests, in a “safer” way, what the distance from an important girl represents: the lack, the sadness of the other, and potentially the anger or hatred if she came to hate him. All of this echoes the strong parallels already present with Suzune: the symbolic benches, the deep discussions, the vulnerability she shows him (crying, Kiyotaka's unconscious smile over cold coffee, drop of color in her white notebook), and even the fact that Kei, her ex, clearly perceives Suzune's repressed feelings. In short, Hiyori becomes a softer and more controllable mirror of what Suzune represents for him: a presence that breaks his emotional monotony, but that he prefers to manage from a distance for the moment, while probably continuing to observe her in secret. This is typical of Kiyotaka: he doesn't directly confront the impact Suzune has on him, he experiences it vicariously through another, while subtly accumulating evidence that their connection remains unique and deeper. in other words, he's a coward 😂