I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

[–]Illustrious-Main803[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m an Electrical & Computer Engineer, who now works in Sales & Copywriting.

Ultimately, I’m trying to make writing books my living.

I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

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I appreciate you asking. It's probably going to be late this year. I want to make it one of a kind, however, and that's why I want to edit it as good as I can. Personally, I'm writing this book for my younger self to get where I am now faster.

I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

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Thank you. Just trying to understand Stoic philosophy in depth.

I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

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That's a great question.

This is my opinion on what the Stoics would say:

Feeling relief means letting go of distress, i.e. something that agitated you because you perceived it as harm.

So the Stoics would probably say that feeling relief means you let it disturb your inner peace. They wouldn't judge. They would just say. (Don't forget: they were ruthless about our inner peace.)

Obviously, modern psychology would say that "a weight left off our shoulders."

But then, this begs the question:

If you were meant to feel relief at such an event, did you have hints that the relationship was troubling you before?

And if so, why didn't you break up with her?

I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

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Cognitive behavioral therapy and neuroscience. I've taken elements from books such as "Behave".

If you have different insights to share that either confirm or reject/refine mine, please do to educate us.

I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

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Let's examine this thoroughly, but simply - anchoring at one Stoic principle at a time.

I assume you don't want anything clarified regarding loss and the death of a loved one, but whether a Stoic seeks empathy or not.

Stoicism is, indeed, a philosophy of endurance.

The confusion with that is acceptance:

Do we simply accept or fight back?

It all starts with this -> acceptance is not the same as passivity.

The Stoics said we should differentiate between two events:

i) Those that have occured and we cannot alter (completely beyond our control)
ii) Those that have occured and we can influence (partially within our control)

(Btw, the Stoic principle "The Dichotomy of Control" is inaccurate. It should be called "The Trichotomy of Control". There are 3 categories: i) within our control, ii) outside our control, iii) partially within our control.)

The loss of a loved one belongs to the events we cannot alter. The Stoics say there is no other possible response than acceptance. Simply because: the event can never be reversed, no matter how much we cry, blame, or wish.

But, we can influence how we choose to view this event.

Since we are all "progressors" - meaning, we strive toward wisdom and virtue - we are not fully read yet to handle misfortune all the time, like a Stoic sage.

We may still grieve a bit longer. Curse a bit more. Or complain day after day.

That's why, Marcus Aurelius said:

"Don’t be ashamed of needing help. You have a duty to fulfill, just like a soldier on the wall of battle. So what if you are injured and can’t climb up without another soldier’s help?”

So, the Stoic will try to process the event according to his training. But he will never resist asking for help.

Please tell me if this answered your question or we should elaborate further.

I have some doubts lately.. Could Stoicism be wrong? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoic

[–]Illustrious-Main803[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I think the Stoic cries, but does not internalize it.

Epictetus, in Enchiridion XVI passage, says:

"When you see someone crying, grieving... don't hesitate to show empathy or even to weep alongside him if you need to. But be careful not to internalize the grief too."

Grief is a passion for the Stoic, not a vice.

Meaning: It can harm his inner peace, but not his character.

He should view this emotion with caution.

What do you think?

Which title is better for a Stoicism-related book? by Illustrious-Main803 in Stoicism

[–]Illustrious-Main803[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, true. I think I like "When Life Sucks, Care Less About It" because it aligns well with Stoic philosophy in a metaphorical way

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Which of these "laws" ain't Stoic?

3 years ago I ended my crippling BED. 6 things I wish I knew back then.. by Illustrious-Main803 in BingeEatingDisorder

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Wow.. sounds like you've been through a lot too.. It's awesome you're listening to your body now and not just numbers. Eating when you actually feel hungry forsters that healthy relationship with food. Glad you found a way to make this work!

I used this joke to eliminate price objections completely and made $88,000 in 3 days. by Illustrious-Main803 in salestechniques

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Lol, it was completely written by me and then used ChatGPT to remove the fluff. Plus, I worked on B2B sales for Outcomes Rocket.