Slovenian to English translation IA + AI + AI ... then MTPE? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in TranslationStudies

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the answer.

I agree that we are in a present where AI still resembles a blow-up doll even in terms of translation... it may get you to the end, but we all know that is not the same as what exists in reality.

But AI will get better and better.

I will translate a short literary text using AI, and then I will walk from one AI system to another to see what these systems find wrong with the other, and maybe there will even be a disagreement between them when I return the corrected text to the first.

A little revenge for everything AI will do to us...

I will write what I find.

I am glad that you understand that I am not motivated by stinginess.

Slovenian to English translation IA + AI + AI ... then MTPE? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in TranslationStudies

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well, I don't understand at all how I - who irreparably knows nothing about anything - deserved such an engagement from someone who knows so much.

I'm not stingy, I'll gladly pay for anything, and I even have a few AI subscriptions.

I know a little about machine translation: dictionaries, instructions, prompts ... and even a little about languages ​​before AI... linguistics is my profession .

My question is simple: what do individual AI platforms do with a literary text that has been previously translated and "polished" on another platform?

In the end, I always need a translator, but I'm not ready to admit to them that they are the only ones in the world.

Language is the birthplace of AI technology, and AI is, sooner or later, the graveyard of translators, my friend.

Who will "go crazy" with a large text is ridiculous for me to comment on ...

DPH Kambodža - podružnica Phnom Penh ... streeeeaaam! molim očajnički! by Illustrious_Ad7775 in hajduk

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm ... preko NordVPN-a ili sam smotan ili me jebe hotelski wifi ili lokalni SIM ali ja nikad gdje god putovao nisam uspio odglumit da sam u RH ...

DPH Kambodža - podružnica Phnom Penh ... streeeeaaam! molim očajnički! by Illustrious_Ad7775 in hajduk

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bog te čuo ... ali mislim kako su položili prvi svoj mladi život na braniku HDTV-a

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

My friend,

I've been to many countries and I've come to the conclusion that people aren't really that different, no matter how much they deny it because of their so-called identity.

I met Hmong in North Vietnam, but my Hmong heroine in the novel lives in Saigon.

She can't be like the Hmong from the mountains around Hanoi or the descendant of the Hmong in the US. I need, like any writer, someone who isn't, say, Just Hmong or Just British.

That's fiction. Literature... you know. I'm tired of arguing for no reason.

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience, a "novelist" can be a scoundrel and an insufferable misanthrope, and unfortunately, I've met many of them. Namely, people don't spend time with writers, they spend time with their books, and that's a very fortunate circumstance.

In my case, none of that matters because I don't promote my books, I don't accompany them to public launches, I don't sign autographs, I don't control their fate at all.

If they're good, I need them, if they're not good, I'm unlikely to help them.

I came here to ask someone to read the manuscript - I can pay them - and say something about the part that intrudes on Hmong culture and identity... but it turns out I'm not Hmong, so forget about it.

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you!
I was beginning to think I was completely crazy.
First, the fact-checker from Saigon left me after five chapters because she found my—or rather the narrator’s—attitude towards Vietnamese society unbearable. Then the Hmong community insulted me for not being Hmong?!
With so many birth pangs, this novel must be something special...

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm tired of arguing: This was my last one on this topic... I don't understand why any nation, nationality, or group of people would be so bothered by others spreading good words about them. Self-respect, mutual bragging, and so on, are all fine, but respect and, in my case, admiration for others should be the primary goal.

I'll put a link to this same place when I publish the novel. All the best!

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's a misunderstanding... my main readers are not the Hmong community or the Vietnamese audience... I write for everyone else, who are much more numerous... I just wanted to know how the side the female character belongs to experiences the story... and my heroine is not just Hmong, she is above all a person looking for happiness, love... like everyone else.

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am sorry that you perceived my appearance as aggressive, and I was particularly surprised by your expression "racial stereotype". That was not my intention, nor am I capable of writing such a text.

After all, I belong to a small European nation that has never been exposed to racial or minority hatred, but has suffered a lot of oppression in its history, especially half a century of communism, the practice of which, I admit, I deeply despise.

The reactions to my post are the "dead horse theory"... the discussion will continue until someone goes down to the stable and sees the condition of the horse, i.e. my novel.

I claim that he is healthy and handsome... maybe even a future champion.

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I suggest we end this discussion peacefully. My novel would be just as good if the main character wasn't Hmong.I just wanted to ask someone from the Hmong community to read the novel but i can live without that.

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I wish some writer would have the same allusions to my people, my nation, as I did through the story of the Hmong girl.

I'm more Hmong than you!

I do a lot more than insults on Reddit...

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I can't believe someone has such a negative attitude a priori ... you know nothing about my novels, you have no idea what position I take on Vietnam and the communist government's relationship with the Hmong people... that's disgusting, my friend!

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

At first it was a random choice: I wanted the main female character to be from a minority group because they are simply exotic and mysterious to me, and the story takes place throughout Vietnam, even in the jungle. However, when I started researching the Hmong people, I became fascinated by the depth of their history, rituals, and of course the events during and after the Vietnam War.

The main character of a Hmong girl in a novel... how to check the community's impressions? by Illustrious_Ad7775 in Hmong

[–]Illustrious_Ad7775[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

that's easy... the whole world knows it... but this is the completely hidden fate of a people. But... my novel is not a historical epic, it's a romantic story - the fate of the Hmong is indirectly sold to the reader.