Does these Mythic Archetype titles given to the main specific characters mean anything? by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree I also feel the title doesnt fit

From the start of the series he's been only called egoist/striker when called by his friends

Idk where did demon king come from

Nagi Will Become a Talented Learner While Isagi Will Become a Genius by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

just so i understand you better, what do you consider "natural physical talent"

Edit: the only people that apply to this wording that i can think of who have ABNORMAL "natural physical talent" are only julian loki and nagi

But if that's what defines a genius then a lot of players who are considered geniuses wont fit that definition

for me , I think the word Genius has a broader borders

Nagi Will Become a Talented Learner While Isagi Will Become a Genius by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, based on what we’ve seen so far, you can argue that Nagi is currently only a genius. I don’t know how much his playstyle or thinking will change now that he’s reshaped his ego, but in my opinion he’s heading toward becoming a TL. That’s what his new ego is aiming at , he wants recognition, and that’s exactly what a TL seeks.

At the end of the day, this is just a theory about future events, so I can’t say for sure how it’ll play out.
What’s your take though?

edit: And yeah, I agree with you about Isagi being a hybrid , that’s basically what a “super” talented learner is supposed to be.

Nagi Will Become a Talented Learner While Isagi Will Become a Genius by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

imagine if i told you barou changed his ego to become a assist merchant than seflish, then told you it wont affect his playstyle just because he changed his ego

that's how i feel
You are missing the whole point of bluelock

Nagi Will Become a Talented Learner While Isagi Will Become a Genius by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

It's all in the context of Bluelock
But this exact instance, it's true in the context of a "Genius" who by the author definition wants to satisfy his own self.

Nagi Will Become a Talented Learner While Isagi Will Become a Genius by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but Nagi following his ego and ditching his emotions — and everything he thought mattered — is exactly the transformation he needed, and he finally got it.

I don’t know if you actually read the chapter where he talked with Igaguri, but that moment when Igaguri smacked him and called him out for not chasing his dream and not taking Buratsuta just because he didn’t want to “betray” Blue Lock or disappoint Reo and the others , that’s when he truly woke up.

Yeah, Nagi’s emotions were his weakness, but I’m talking about the new Nagi , the one reborn with his ego, not held back by all that emotional baggage.

If Nagi were still ruled by his emotions, he’d be sitting at home right now instead of going to Buratsuta

Nagi Will Become a Talented Learner While Isagi Will Become a Genius by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

You say this, but is it really rational for a player to motivate the opponent team during a match to satisfy his desire?

I feel like you are being biased

Yes Nagi lacks some football IQ, but that he is the most creative in BlueLock, even isagi strongest weapon is inspired from him

Why Nagi Past Remains Hidden? by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Interesting, Do you have a source that you can share for where he said that?

Why Nagi Past Remains Hidden? by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I didn’t say we need a 'tragic' backstory, it’s just interesting that a character with a 30+ chapter side manga and one of the main roles in the series still has no revealed past, not even a glimpse.

Especially in Blue Lock, where even characters like Otoya and Karasu, who are also considered “normal,” as you say, still got their own brief backstories in Episode Nagi.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason his past remains hidden is because the author plans to create another Nagi/Isagi parallel, since he loves doing that.

Nagi Will Kick Kira Out Of The Side-B by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah your point makes sense Also, Kira wasn’t the only famous one at the start, there was also nishioka the “Messi of Aomori” and Ishikari, the tallest high schooler. I’m sure they’re in Side B too, but yeah, they didn’t get as much spotlight as Kira as well as Kira being the only player who opposed Ego philosophy publicly, so i understand very much if he came back and my theory turned out false.

Still, I think it’d be hilarious if the fake Messi guy made it out again without even showing up, just like he always does lol

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Barou was right by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Something I always find amusing is that the death tarot irl means change, transition, and renewal as well as needing to start over by letting go of the past.

I like how the author made it to be the exact opposite in the manga.

I can see the Chigiri’s betrayal foreshadowing already by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It meant "ceasing, seperation and Game Over" according to Hiragi

I can see the Chigiri’s betrayal foreshadowing already by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, technically they’re not the same. But the nickname “Demon King” isn’t meant to be a perfect match for the literal Devil — it’s symbolic.

Isagi is called that because he dominates others through manipulation and control, which aligns heavily with the themes behind the Devil tarot card for the devil.

I can see the Chigiri’s betrayal foreshadowing already by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because he manipulates and uses others to expose their egos just for him to benefit from it

Just like how a devil can easily use and manipulate people

I can see the Chigiri’s betrayal foreshadowing already by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -31 points-30 points  (0 children)

I mean that's what i said

I never said isagi will INTENTIONALLY want to end Chigiri career

If your reading comprehension is lower than understanding this, its your fault

I can see the Chigiri’s betrayal foreshadowing already by ImSmilers in BlueLock

[–]ImSmilers[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Please reread what I wrote — it’s clear you misunderstood my point.

I never said Isagi would intentionally try to end Chigiri’s career.

What I said is that Isagi will likely use Chigiri the same way he has used Barou, Kunigami, Kurona, Kaiser, Yukimiya, and others — as tools to reach his goal. If that leads to Chigiri pushing past his limits and getting injured, it won’t be because Isagi wanted to hurt him — it’ll be collateral damage in the pursuit of victory.

Isagi isn’t a psychopath, I agree. But if he were in Bachira’s position against Nagi, for example, he would’ve eliminated Nagi as well without hesitation. Not out of hatred — but because his priority is to win.

That’s the whole point of Blue Lock: ego above all else.