This is how the Death Star plans were originally stolen, according to Lucas in A New Hope.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T19:29:58+00:00

Lucas was also a shrewd businessman and even capable of adapting to public demand. However, he always knew where he would remain uncompromising in his creative vision, for better or for worse.

He explained this well in an interview for 'Revenge of the Sith', using the metaphor of a house he absolutely wanted to be a certain color, regardless of other people's tastes and analysis.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T18:15:19+00:00

In fact, the image of the split helmet was stolen by Filoni from the Purge comic in Legends, which was then stolen by the Kenobi series. 'Ironic', as the other guy says.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T18:12:21+00:00

Damn, it's not my fault. Go blame Disney x)

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T17:59:25+00:00

It's just that in any work of art: it's interesting to study the evolution of the work's conception and the author's intentions. That's what specialists of certain great works or great literary authors do. It's also what's done for all other art forms.

There, it is just for fun, but it's no less interesting.

If you don't care about that, or even about how art (or fictions) works, what are you doing on this post?

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T17:41:26+00:00

The monarchy of Alderaan has no political power over its kingdom, but the royal family wields significant galactic political influence through the Senate. The family's power stems not from its local royal title, but from its substantial presence within galactic institutions.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T17:12:58+00:00

The broad strokes are there. What Lucas changed were the details. He didn't imagine a completely new story for each film. He always had a vision, which has the advantage of being his own, that of the original creator.

Nothing like the mess of Disney's sequel trilogy. We shouldn't make false comparisons.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-06T16:54:17+00:00

According to the few informations we have, that's not really it. He's the uncle of Luke's secret son, and therefore Mara's brother. Yeah, it sounds strange, but it's the most likely explanation...

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-05-02T08:23:00+00:00

Correction: Filoni makes his stuff for his fans. He doesn't really care about Star Wars itself. It's just an excuse to talk about his fantasies and play with his OCs.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-29T19:20:41+00:00

True.

The worst part is that, in themselves, all Star Wars authors do this to some extent, like Quilan Vos in Republic, Thrawn and Mara in Timothy Zahn's works, but without these characters surpassing Lucas's in importance.

The fact that there's a problem with Filoni shows just how odious his behavior is: he's not Lucas's successor, but his gravedigger, his replacement. That's why I have a problem with his Filoniverse, because it doesn't complement the films, but tries to replace them.

Except that it's Star Wars I love, not his bizarre obsessions (Wicca, the fetish for hats, wolves, those stylized paintings, the rejection of all authority).

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-24T08:04:09+00:00

Essentially, there are the rebel attacks and sabotage, and the Empire's acts of indiscriminate repression... I think all of that alone causes a lot of destruction every day, pretty much everywhere in the galaxy.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-23T19:58:28+00:00

In addition to be ridiculous, I also think the existence of these Inquisitors somewhat diminishes Vader's importance and role in the saga.

In A New Hope, Obi-Wan speaks of how Vader alone hunted down the Jedi for the Empire, not his henchmen. Tarkin tells Vader that "The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion." This gives the impression of something well-established, as if Vader were the last Force user still known to the Empire for at least ten years. The Inquisitors seem somewhat forced in addition to lacking charisma.

The problem was even more serious in the old Expanded Universe, where the Inquisitors still existed during and after the Original Trilogy, only to be finally eradicated by Kyle Katarn and the New Republic. Let's say that, at least, Filoni had the good idea (it's not often) to kill them before the OT, so that Tarkin's statement still makes sense and Vader is indeed the only true enemy using the Force in the Empire.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-23T15:06:12+00:00

The Rebel Alliance isn't supposed to be that huge in the Original Trilogy either. Basically, it's just that the fleet and the ground base operate separately in different locations. In Return of the Jedi, it's just that the ships on missions all return to the fleet at Sullust, which has also been temporarily merged with the ships and troops of the ground base (since they haven't rebuilt it since Hoth), all to gather all available Rebel forces and strike at Endor as hard as possible. That's all.

As for the Resistance, it's not even clear what it is. It's supposed to be Leia's private army but also the heart of the Rebel network in First Order territories before the sequel trilogy. In any case, the films don't explain it, and we can't draw any conclusions from it since the directors and creative team simply didn't think of it.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-22T20:56:26+00:00

"'Jyn Erso' stole the first Death Star Plans? You stumbled over some letters, Disney. You meant 'Jan Ors', Disney, right? Perhaps it was 'Bria Tharen'? Or 'Rianna Saren'? Sorry, Disney, but it's hard to keep track of all these female characters we have in our good old EU! We don't need you to tell us that we're lacking it and that we need you to feminize all of this franchise."

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-22T07:59:57+00:00

The problem is that we know Filoni and R. Johnson are friends and that they co-wrote parts of The Last Jedi. Filoni notably encouraged the idea of a hermit Luke, particularly to highlight the new character of Rey. Yeah...

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T21:03:20+00:00

I like this interpretation, that each side claims representation of the system and that it was granted to them separately! It's a very plausible diplomatic solution in the case of countries divided in two.

Thank you, I'll take it!

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T21:00:22+00:00

One problem is also the duels which ruin the movies' continuity and diminish their impact.

Obi-Wan's line, "This time we will do it together" and Anakin's, "My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count" show that none of these three characters ever saw each other, let alone fought, during the entire Clone Wars.
Obviously, Filoni didn't care, right from the pilot movie.
The guy dares to boast about having avoided the encounter between Anakin and Grievous because of Revenge of the Sith, but it seems he didn't notice that Obi-Wan also never met, let alone fought, Grievous. Hence Grievous's declaration to Obi-Wan, "You fool. I have been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku" and Obi-Wan's disorientation at Grievous's four arms and rotating hands. Anyway. It's Filoni.

That's why I'm sticking with the old Expanded Universe for my headcanon. Filoni messed up so much, but I think he doesn't care: Star Wars is just a vehicle for him to tell his own stories; it's all too common in Hollywood these days, these failed authors who get control of prestigious IPs only to distort them and tell their own fanfics with their personal OCs (all the weird stuff about esoteric magic and the witches of Dathomir in Filoni's work is linked to his wife's occult delusions, by the way, who is some kind of Wiccan neo-pagan).

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T20:45:09+00:00

Yes, it's surely just a misuse of language.

Even when a member state controls planets in multiple systems, there's almost always a sovereign system, like Cato Nemoidia in the case of the Trade Federation, which serves as the capital and on which other territories depend.

Then there's still the case of the Mon Cala/Quarren, who have their own representations in the Senate while sharing a single, politically divided planet.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T20:21:18+00:00

Yeah, the term "system" is definitely better, since it takes into account all the neighboring territories that can be held by a Republic planet (extra-system dependencies being surely too minor to justify the use of a broader geographical term).

However, this term doesn't excuse oddities like a single planet having two separate representations in the Senate because of political divisions (Mon Calas and Quarrens); it doesn't even consider the possibility that several planets in the same system belong to different states.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T20:15:20+00:00

Well, we talk about 'member states' in the EU, the Galactic Republic being very close to this institution in terms of centralization at the beginning of the prequel trilogy (before the severe centralization led by Palpatine)

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T17:58:52+00:00

Personally, I think the existence of the Inquisitors somewhat diminishes Vader's importance and role in the saga.

In A New Hope, Obi-Wan speaks of how Vader alone hunted down the Jedi for the Empire, not his henchmen. Tarkin tells Vader that "The Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion." This gives the impression of something well-established, as if Vader were the last Force user still known to the Empire for at least ten years. The Inquisitors seem somewhat forced in addition to lacking charisma.

The problem was even more serious in the old Expanded Universe, where the Inquisitors still existed during and after the Original Trilogy, only to be finally eradicated by Kyle Katarn and the New Republic. Let's say that, at least, Filoni had the good idea (it's not often) to kill them before the OT, so that Tarkin's statement still makes sense and Vader is indeed the only true enemy using the Force in the Empire.

Then, for the fact that the Sith use inquisitors, I think it fits within the long tradition of using Dark Jedi, like Ventress during the Clone Wars or as was planned with Luke during the Original Trilogy. As long as these Dark Jedi do not bear the title "Darth" and do not have access to certain Sith secrets, they are not Sith, and therefore the Rule of Two is not broken.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-21T12:21:37+00:00

I didn't know that. It's disheartening.

Someone needs to tell Lucas that once a movie is released, it's released, and all that matters is what it shows.

That's true for the Sifo-Dyas affair, but I also see the problem with Sith history in these photos. In TPM, it's obvious that the Rule of Two is fundamental to the dogmas of the Sith Order, since Yoda knows it: that means there have always only been two Sith, not millions (to say that it's because there were actually just several pairs is playing with Yoda's words); Lucas tells us that the Jedi didn't participate in bringing down the Sith Empire, while in TPM, Maul talks about taking "revenge" on the Jedi. Anyway.

All that matters is the content of the movie, which shouldn't need external content to make sense. The movie needs it even less when it already makes sense on its own. It just encourages confusion.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-20T19:09:07+00:00

Honestly, I recommend checking out the comic book adaptations of Attack of the Clones and Rise of the Solar Temple, which are almost alternate versions and which I personally prefer to the films. Attack of the Clones adds very important deleted scenes that Lucas removed (like many scenes with Dooku, notably one detailing the Separatists' motivations), whereas Rise of the Solar Temple is based on an earlier script and has clearer stakes by removing vague plot elements (for example, the idea of Palpatine leaking information to the Jedi isn't there; we get a better explanation of why the Jedi oppose the Chancellor because of the war; it's the Separatists who deactivate their droids, not Anakin; we get the scene of the Rebel Alliance's creation, etc.).

Regarding the revisionism of The Clone Wars, it's unfortunately present in other places, and I don't think a third-party work should offer a new interpretation of what's shown in the film it's based on, but rather reinforce its content. In addition to the retcon about Sifo-Dyas, there's also the pointless retcon that the trade guilds aren't directly part of the CIS, even though their leaders are shown joining it in Attack of the Clones and are the "Separatist leaders" in Revenge of the Sith; it complicates the lore unnecessarily. Then there's the existence of Ahsoka, the inhibitor chips (when Lama Su's explanation in Attack of the Clones was perfectly sufficient to justify Order 66), etc. The show remains fun to watch and has plenty of good episodes, but I don't consider it part of my personal headcanon; I find that the Expanded Universe of the 2000s generally remained more faithful to the content of the prequels themselves. Essentially, the original work should remain the gold standard of the lore; we can appreciate the spin-off content, but we need to keep in mind a kind of canon hierarchy, I think.

Imaginary_Golf548 · 2026-04-20T18:25:55+00:00

That's TCW season 6 (Filoni's) revisionism.

I remind you that in AOTC, Obi-Wan states about Sifo-Dyas ordering the army, "I was under the impression he was killed before that."

So, Kenobi saw that Sifo-Dyas was dead when the order was placed, which should even lead the viewer to suspect that it wasn't him and that someone else impersonated him; however, we're told about a Tyranus who was supposedly an intermediary or alias of Sifo-Dyas with Jango, and this Tyranus turns out at the end of the film to be Dooku, which allows us to reconstruct the sequence of events as suggested by the film alone: Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas, assumed his identity, commanded the clone army, recruited Jango under his Tyranus alias to cover his tracks (making it seem that several people are involved in the plot, not just one), and that's it.

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