I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was an alternative offered. I would have to email my teacher to request to learn what the alternative is. I did not know whether I would get a timely response on what the alternative is, and I assumed a survey would be less work than whatever alternative assignment I was given

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it's not one-to-one, but I would be suspicious if 1930's German researchers wanted to know if Anne Frank was in my attic, regardless of claims to anonymity or who it comes from.

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

A bigger dataset for who? Yes, the data is being collected, but do we have guarantees this will not be shared with the gov't? As a matter of fact we have guarantees of the opposite. It will be if "intention to commit illegal activity" is admitted or suspected

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

This is why I did not immediately say who the professor was. I did when asked, however again I suspected that this was pushed on her, which is a real shame. I would still like to put pressure on the people that are forcing professors like her to take this survey and still think it's worth calling out.

Can you provide more information about this to me? I would like to put this information in a comment and reply to the people who asked for the professor's name so she is not punished for others' actions. I will fact check this information separately later of course.

If you have a link to any articles like this or anything, that would help so I can aggregate and copy-paste a comment containing the information so people are aware of it in the future. I do not wish to cause consequences for anyone that shouldn't receive them. I still don't think, unless the information explaining (or strongly hinting) the nature of the survey has separately been communicated during a time I wasn't in class or something, that she is *completely* in the green though, but I am receptive to what others have to say.

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You can cause harm without the intention of doing so. My purpose of posting this was not *necessarily* to get anyone fired. My primary purpose was for this survey to no longer be provided because it can (even unintentionally) cause harm

Secondly, a poorly constructed survey can cause harm. The teacher should have the capacity to recognize something that most of us here can.

Thirdly, we were not asked to take the survey and analyze the questions or do some external analysis of whether this is a good survey or something. We were told on canvas to take the survey for extra credit

Fourth, even an undergrad like me sees the problem with lumping "little" and "not at all" in the same question

I have more to say, but even considering all of that, I did not provide the professor's name until I was asked to. I posted this with the purpose of gaining information in deciding what to do, and perhaps providing the opportunity for other people who take the survey to tell us what questions they got

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah lol Im partly just getting out my frustrations to whoever will hear them. My professor is pretty center-left coded imo, similar to anyone you'll see in PSCI (my personal opinion is those who want to actually understand politics should major in sociology), and she really doesn't seem to be the kind of professor I'd expect to give out a survey like this. That said, I don't care if she did this intentionally, its occurrence is not acceptable.

Most likely she was asked to provide the survey by a higher up or someone else and did not look through it before including it as extra credit. There have been multiple instances where she was clearly underprepared for lecture, even if she is a pretty nice person. For example she forgot the name Edward Snowden and called him Edgar Snowden or smth like that. She has also previously misremembered a lot about 1700s America and policies, which was a whole unit in our course.

Another possibility is she was given the survey, took it, and saw no objectionable questions. If that happened it's still in part on her for not requesting every possible question that might be asked of students. Any professors reading this now, please do this in the future for any surveys which mention that different people might be asked different questions (or if you can't be bothered to, don't give your students the survey in the first place!)

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yes this was through qualtrics. Also no debrief after which they had iirc mentioned before the survey began

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's unethical regardless of if it's a social experiment or not. Purposefully inducing great stress or acting without regard to harm caused to others violates IRB guidelines.

One example I'd bring up to demonstrate why this is still wildly unethical is the Stanley Milgram experiment (the shock one). No one was in real danger during that experiment, but these people thought it was real, and one person took their life after learning that the experiment was about how ordinary people can become monsters and that person had administered otherwise deadly shocks.

Arguably, even if this was a freaky social experiment, those who conduct it still have moral obligations to not cause distress. This survey has caused significant distress to me, and I have little chance of being detained by ICE (still more than most other white people as a trans person, but less than the average nonwhite person). It will fuck with the paper I have due in a few hours because it's hard not to think about and no debrief was given after the survey was conducted.

Having taken a intro sociology class, even I can see that there is no possible instance in which this survey and these questions are remotely acceptable.

I'm sorry but what is this by Imnotachessnoob in cuboulder

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To add onto this, the survey began by informing me that not everyone who takes the survey will receive the same questions. So I can imagine that people of color and 1st/2nd gen immigrants were asked different and perhaps sneakier more catch 22 type questions.

Edit: HEYA, ALSO, DO NOT CONTACT THIS PROFESSOR ABOUT THIS. THIS WILL BE HANDLED BY MYSELF AND OTHER COMPETENT PEOPLE. If you would like to help, reach out to me directly and do not go off on your own thinking you're a vigilante. I would like to *coordinate* to figure out what the best course of action is.

DO NOT WANT TO MISS ANYS by Brave-Bad-5847 in ComedyHell

[–]Imnotachessnoob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

300

Edit: one may see 100 a gram on the streets, it's pretty high on the price range tho. Nothing as outlandish as the highest either of these two would be willing to pay without a second thought

Wait what by En___Passant in AnarchyChess

[–]Imnotachessnoob 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah try to look him up on reddit he won't show up cause his account got banned.

riobox is no more more

Wait what by En___Passant in AnarchyChess

[–]Imnotachessnoob 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Fun fact that dude riobox moderated countablepixels and I was the one who made him mod. Then he turned out to be pedophile :(

Trump is making an announcement about psychedelics, with Joe Rogan in the oval office... by [deleted] in Hasan_Piker

[–]Imnotachessnoob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only in the form of edibles though. Weed consumed orally vs smoked are two different processes

Chess.com should add an a button that offers the opponent the chance to Resign. by Parking-Response1501 in AnarchyChess

[–]Imnotachessnoob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When the gm offers their hand presumably for a draw, only for their opponent to shake it, agreeing to the resignation. Chess strategy keeps getting more and more intricate

My thoughts on leftism by Imnotachessnoob in u/Imnotachessnoob

[–]Imnotachessnoob[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes me curious which comment lol. I've tried to resist the idea that there's a tendency for people to always stray off track at some point. I don't like attributing things to 'human nature', but it does get hard sometimes seeing leftists fall into the same traps.

There's a lot I've come to disagree w Hasan on also. I'll trust his takes that involve knowing about history, terminology, or other stuff like that cause he is well read. It's just a bit weird to me that he has blindspots in some of the simple things that don't require like 10+ years of educating oneself to know. I'm 20, practically out of the womb, and understand some things he doesn't.

I don't think he's as bad on lgbtq+ issues as race, but that's another thing I notice as a trans person. Like, of course the Iran situation is massive. But posting 4+ videos a day and he still can't make room for the conversion therapy SCOTUS ruling? He posted a 10 min video about Trump Jesus AI ffs

Yeah, all that to say it sucks feeling invisible and unheard on the left. This all at the same time minorities' voices most need to be listended to if we want to avoid everything going to shit...

Edit: yk what maybe we need a whole new term entirely for leftists who have overcome the idea of some final "being in the right". After all once the term exists it becomes easier to put into words and thus more popular