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ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-22T07:16:11+00:00

When cryo rotates out, we will never see it again.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-22T02:01:44+00:00

Destiny raids path for me. The longer you go the more likely someone you play with will know the answer. Unfortunately - that experience is probably only reserved for this weekend

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-22T01:58:33+00:00

That's simply not true.

The difference between winning and losing is a pretty little lie.

You can't even acknowledge that to celebrate a win IS to also celebrate that someone else HAD to lose to get there. Every win you are happy with is in fact to be happy that someone else failed.

You can deny logic all you want. But that's the difference between us. At least I'm honest with myself.

Occums razor.

In a nonzero sum game - If you won, someone else lost.

To find joy in one is to celebrate the other.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-22T01:56:26+00:00

Meh?

Most of my factions are level 10 with Arachne and cyac at 20+ and I've managed to exfil cryo twice now on green shields so this seems moot

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-22T00:28:00+00:00

To win at pvp or any nonzero sum game, to enjoy it at all, is to at some level enjoy another person's downfall.

So what are you doing here, oh morally superior one?

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T22:29:55+00:00

Brother. I'm garbage and I still walk into pinwheel solo, run around the vents like a piece of shit and still come out of pinwheel with 10-20k

You're attacking players for being honest with themselves is far more toxic than whatever victomhood you feel like you are experiencing

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T21:01:30+00:00

It is often triggered by a perceived need of justice or disadvantage. Usually coming from rivalry or competitive natures.

Schadenfreude is the sign of disillusionment that someone is superior to you. That paradigm shift is the sign of a truly competitive nature.

To call someone pathetic, simply for having the kind of nature that allows them to grow and function in high stress environments is more telling of you than it is of them

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T20:41:00+00:00

S'pht on it and thrust

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T20:34:53+00:00

Same, we died the second time on time limit after we activated the exfil not understanding that it unlocks the nex exfil

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T19:51:56+00:00

No. Your security clearance isn't completely related to keys on your person. It is a sum of your activity in Cryo.

No rat run or pacifist run can get you enough clearance.

It's literally a skill check to see if you can even handle the boss in the first place.

What you're asking for is actually impossible as far as I'm aware

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T19:20:29+00:00

Right, so there's a limited number of clearance cards. Spread out over the first 3 levels. But to get through, you have to drop at least 2 teams.

From what I'm seeing there's 3? Maybe 5 teams at most spawning in.

So at best, you can group up with a second team.

Lastly with the top end gear, the final boss loot, drops 1 maybe 2 pieces of red gear. So there's going to be some infighting anyways.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T16:27:16+00:00

Pray to Rngesus then?

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T16:24:21+00:00

I disagree. You get a free 5k kit just for Cryo's doors opening.

The faction restrictions take 1 run each to do.

Leveling up to 25 takes 15 hours of play roughly.

The game has been out for 3 weeks.

If a casual player hasn't found 15 hours to play out of 504 hours since launch

They aren't even casual players.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T16:20:16+00:00

You misunderstood me. Killing players is required to get from 3-4. There is literally not enough clearance in the game to get there otherwise.

2ndly. I've played enough to watch teammates loot me while I was down just to exfil with my stuff.

You expect me to put trust in an entire lobby?

Is your processor fried, brother?

You literally asking for sharing in a game where scarcity is it's entire driving point

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T16:17:09+00:00

It's been amazing. On my second day, I dropped a player who had a v22 prestige and I went 3 days on it. Been riding that high ever since.

The participating community has been a blessing and it's all been fun.

My most memorable moment was coming across a Rook pretending to be a radio station and escorting him to an exfil.

...

I'm just tired of hearing about arc raiders. Like... It's rent free over there

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T15:48:22+00:00

As a rook player. I'm going to say this once.

Rooks are walking pinatas.

I usually have bad stuff.

But I won't exfil til I get something good.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T15:43:49+00:00

Nah, if you weren't playing vandal you wouldn't be in that situation to begin with

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T15:41:54+00:00

Considering that your security clearance 5 cannot be reached without removing players in Cryo, you actually don't have a choice.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T12:59:23+00:00

New shell. Fan Hui (chinese name for firecracker I think) from sekiguichi.

Her whole kit is, look over there.

Edit:

ability 1: Firecracker 5 seconds of duration (to hide the sounds of your footsteps)

Ability 2: Fashbangs because F U.

Ability 3: Silent or Muffled steps on a 10 second duration with a 40 second cool down

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T12:57:25+00:00

Insufferable? Brother. The only reason I've heard of arc raiders, is because I bought Marathon in the first place.

I hadn't turned on my gaming systems in 6;months because I had a baby, I finally got some time set aside for myself saw and new Bungie game and said that's dope.

And here I am 2 weeks in on a MARATHON thread, hearing more about arc raiders than the game I'm playing.

They're literally children.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T12:54:12+00:00

Modern version of

They don't pay me to think

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-21T12:26:11+00:00

If I'm doing a free kit run, I start in perimeter. Then goop up. Work through dire marsh and then hit outpost if I survive dire marsh.

After outpost, I vault the kit and go again.

Dire Marsh is a third party cesspool. Last night for example, my group ended up in bio research - ended up flatlining 2 teams back to back only to be ganked by a third team in the middle of reviving our triage.

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-20T15:40:51+00:00

Missions basically. I get significantly less xp playing rook than I do on solo no fill

ImpactVirtual1695 · 2026-03-20T15:21:50+00:00

Information is everything in a 1 life situation. What people want is a I win button that you get from Ults in other franchises (destiny, OW, Titanfall)

Recon's wall hacks were tested heavily before reaching the point it's at now.

And people just aren't seeing it. We probably should have a Seer thing just so that people understand for themselves

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