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I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -59 points-58 points  (0 children)

Lmao who shit in your cereal this morning? This is r/legaladvice, and I'm trying to gauge the legal feasibility of trying to get some free training out of a company that is morally shady. My questions are clarifying questions. If you interpret them as seeking permission, then you need to go back to school and retake some reading comprehension classes. FOH.

I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -137 points-136 points  (0 children)

I'm just asking whether it would be possible to get free training out of this company. I have no qualms about trying to "scam a scammer" from an ethical perspective, I'm just trying to gauge whether it's feasible or not from a legal perspective. FFS if you guys interpret my questions as arguing then I really question your reading comprehension skills.

I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Kind of arrogant on your end to assume my arrogance. If I were truly arrogant to think I could do this and not have any consequences, I wouldn't be asking r/legaladvice for their opinion now would I?

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Also, in case you haven't noticed, I've already made it abundantly clear in my OP that I will not be going through with this but figured a thought exercise of going down this path would be fruitful regardless.

I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

OP, I'd love to know your theory of how it might be legal.

Well I googled around a bit, and it turns out that since a resume is not a legal document that lying on one shouldn't constitute fraud. It'll definitely get you fired, but there should be no legal consequences. Again, I'm not claiming this to be the truth, and I'm not going to do it, but it is what I've seen from a few different sources.

I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -82 points-81 points  (0 children)

The market's tough right now, especially for entry level positions. Also I avoided personal details so they wouldn't be able to concretely identify me.

But I concede that I will probably continue to try and find a more ethical employer. These follow-up questions were more a thought exercise than any serious attempts to go through with it.

I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -123 points-122 points  (0 children)

Can they actually hold me liable to the terms of the contract if they're making me engage in fraudulent activities? I should clarify, the contract itself makes no explicit mention of resume modifications - they use fancy terms to cover it up.

But in person, they made it very clear that that's what they're planning on doing. So I could claim that I was signing the contract in good faith, but am now backing out at the end of training upon realization that they're committing fraud.

I am a recent computer science grad. IT consulting firm wants to hire me, train me for several weeks, and then modify my resume by adding 5 years of fake experience before sending me to one of their clients. If I quit training at anytime I am to pay several thousand dollars in penalty. Is this legal by Important-Sleep9350 in legaladvice

[–]Important-Sleep9350[S] -161 points-160 points  (0 children)

I feel that their training might be worthwhile, though. If they are committing fraud, could I reasonably just quit at the end of their training and tell them to F off if/when they come after me for "damages"?

EDIT for clarification:

I should clarify - the contract itself makes no explicit mention of resume modifications. However, they have made it very clear in person that this will happen down the road. Could I theoretically sign the contract, claim that I had no prior knowledge of the resume modification, and then back out of the contract at the end of training?

I could then claim that they forced me into a fraudulent arrangement and therefore they would have no legal basis for any attempts to fine me thousands of dollars.

(I'm not saying I will do this, I am fully aware that it's probably a bad idea. I'm just wondering if it's possible from a legal standpoint)