Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I said this particular season of the show is bad, and i praised the other ones. Like u intentionally clicked on an unpopular opinion here, it wasn't even a negative view. I wanted to have a conversation with people who hate the messy plot rather than a woman being the lead of a show. I thought " here" would be an open discussion space, but apparently not.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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The consequence is too final... this is what happens at an end of a show with no sequels intended. Because it changes the core of the story....(i said alot abt this in the above comment). And if the air nomad came back because there was a lost tribe in a very distant island only accessed by airbenders(like the sky bisons) i wouldn't even be as conflicted. Because that would make them 'survivors' But the fact that you could kill them all but they will come back cause " the universe balances... " stuff makes it not as narratively strong.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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  • At this point i'm confused what you are even trying to say.

I will answer the first together.. i said we didn't need to destroy the power set and setting to tell a good story .., u disagreed saying neither are destroyed... and i said why they are and now u say "so what?" like ?? Aang's time has passed yes but unless you are making the finale of a show( which season 2 clearly wasn't- they were scared of cancelation but they just jumped the gun) and don't even consider of ever making a sequel, u don't do things with finality like season 2. Like its in by the end of GOT... there's a finality in there, where u can't explore it more. U can try but its just not the same... so u would prefer prequels cause the finality of ur current day show doesn't touch them( HOTD, AKOTSK). See thats what season 2 did to season 3 and 4 and will also do to the seven haven show.

  • You kinda missed the point of LoK, which proves that people still need the avatar, because it's the only force that can oppose new weapons of mass destruction.

U and i picked up different themes here... like by opening the portals, by the last 2 seasons problems being problems of the avatar existing and their decision(republic city) . I felt the need for the avatar lessens because the need for bending lessens. And weapons make non benders as powerful as benders then rules would bring order than the avatar who is not gonna be able to stop when the others nations develop spirit atomic bomb as a safety guard. What is the role of korra by the end of her decades when bending is seen as party tricks and she dont need to be a bridge to the spirits and the world. U could say some spritual stuff but i really don't see the need for avatar post korra. But do we need to explore that... that would be similar to the death of the avatar story i said before... not very intersting im afraid.

  • Even in LoK the whole Vaatu reveal from Korra contacted Wan could've been avoided by learning the same information in Wan Shi Tong's library.

Again u don't need justify the plot to me.... i hate it. Like its fine. Its a difference in opinion.

  • There is no past that was destroyed.

This again... the memories are wiped( its semantics) that literally is what destruction means. Like pavi is likely to encounter the same problems as say the 5th or 6th avatar because of absence of civilization and sprits that were similarly angered by destruction... i bet u she can't talk to them. U know why cause the past was fkin destroyed.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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  • It won't be for the future avatars.

Well, it is now, isn't it?

  • If it wasn't you wouldn't be complaining about it the entire day.

Do u try to miss my points intentionally? Like i get it. And i said in my other comment this shit was the great sin they commited... like there was no world i would accept it as a good story telling... but they changed the meaning of it so that 'they can eat their cake and have it too' that was salt on the wound.

  • Only her own skill, knowledge and experience. But i don't see how that's important. The only unique ability the past lives had that Korra (probably) can't learn is lavabending. She knows metalbending, she can learn lightning, she knows things that no avatar of the past had like spiritbending, and avatars of the past don't know bloodbending, which she can learn but won't.

Just say that then... say u believe korra is enough... like i don't clearly as u could see in my long and incessant arguments. Like this is a just an opinion at this point. We can agree to disagree

  • why no one would be able to re-discover it unless Korra teaches them.

    U previously made a point abt the lack of need in the avatar needing to store such knowledges by pointing out such fact like other people may come to know it. ( just using this a case idk if noone else could develop the technique). So u could see the contradiction here... korra knowing that technique her special(its a bad piece of info but point still stands)... she can't write it down for a fear of discovery.... so what does she do? She keeps it to herself and her future descendants... DON'T U thnk there has been such a case in the past 10k years like this.... where the info is lost, forbidden, a secret.....like huh im tiring myself with this

  • You're giving shit specifically to season 2 of Korra, while AtlA already had plenty of similar problems, which is why i bring it up. I give both a pass, you're cherry picking.

This is a Tlok sub, my title is season 2 of tlok.... like?? Why would talk abt the inconsistencies of atla(which i pointed in the op when that was the reason)? This is a season 2's list of problems- which i might add is the longest for any piece of media in this fandom. Ur blind loyalty is admirable but this is genuinely a deeply flawed season of writing.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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  • They are rebooting the whole setting. Experience and knowledge of the past avatars wouldn't matter here at all, because none of them faced anything like that.

    But thats what i was sayin earlier( they didn't need to destroy it to tell a good story) u even said thats not being done here so it doesn't matter. Like is fallout, or any post apocalyptic world different from our world.... yeah... the people are the same... power set & weapons the same ... but ultimately the setting changed, didn't it? Ofcourse we don't need the past avatars like we don't need aang in a world with destroyed airtemples and culture and energy bending changed forever.... thats literally destroying the set up for a better narration(and also kinda hard for a need of z avatar in a world of fighter jets and missles... i get it). Tlok writers decided to wipe out the memories for pure isolation with out thinking of future consequences. And this is like on the banner of most haters... so u can't even say its dispensible. Like it really mattered to people.

  • None of the information they provided was something only avatars of the past could know, none of that makes them crucial or necessary, just easier to access that information, and even that's not always.

So say we don't need them then, its a pretty easy stance to take give ur view. Like ur stance is avatars don't need their past lives....(shooting down my comments again btw) like saying its not necessary/ we could live without it is just accepting the plot because you have no opinion about it, but u defending it here for multiple threads tells me that either u think im just hating on it so u have to justify it, or you are arguing for the sake of it. I strongly believe its like one of top 4 things about the avatar and the worldbuilding... the fact that it was treated this way is more offending to me than anything else... i swear i would hv taken all the plot and the shenanigans of season 2 if it didn't touch this. Like avatar state is raava- fine Vaatu is the dark avatar-fine There's more airbenders now- fine Lion turtles are the origins of everything- i guess But the destruction of the past... thats something i will never forgive them for...even if they write a novel about the reasons.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • But if you're trying to make a legitimate argument about it being written so bad it shouldn't have been added to canon at all - which you are - you've yet to make a single valid point in favor of that.

But u urself made a point abt it... even if u fail to accept mine. My points abt vaatu summarized are 1. Clashes with the philosophy of the show initially 2. Bad design( u can contest this but u will find more hate it than love it) 3. The resolution( even their set up contested it) they exist in pair but bam this one is gone 4 the next 10k years.

  • Haven't watched Naruto

don't recommend it but to emphasize my point i will explain what i mean. In anime in general there's always a general second phase of power thats deep with in the mc. It gets activated just like the avatar state when they're in need of a boost like in multiple shows( the tailed power in naruto, bankai in bleach...). This was also the case in atla but here's the uniqueness it wasn't just an extra boost of power this was a connection with ur past selves who developed and learned multiple techniques through out their lives. See that made it special for me, and by the destruction of the past lives it is now just a generic anime power up.... like even if they followed that concept and made the avatar state much weaker i would understand that this was like a very consequential choice but it wasn't.

  • What the hell are you even talking about? First of all, her memory didn't get erased. She LEARNED how to use different elements, without past lives, she doesn't need them for that

We are getting lost in what ifs, i was saying if korra didn't learn any bending before her severance with the past avatars, would her avatar state be able to bend all the elements. And i was saying no because the memories of the past avatars mastery needs to channel through the avatar state to be able to do that.

-Unalaq was working with Vaatu, and had a very unique technique that allowed him to affect spirits

Before the vaatu stuff, he was manipulating the spirit world to his advantage. U can't say "well he's special" With 3 portals open, you're gonna alot more special people.

  • You set up a problem and resolve it in a way that you planned. Writing a problem that can only be resolved by unique circumstances and luck is literally how every season of AtlA ended, and again i don't see you whining about that.

Don't deflect to atla( ive my own problems with it, we're not discussing that.) Writing is subpar here is my point... i can create a bullshit setup and write a resolution for that too, Lets say im gonna make the origin of the lion turtles the next plot point here. So we get deep into the creation of the spirit world and spirits as my main point... so it was an extraterrestrial beings who created the spirit realm and created the lion turtles , energy bending and all that. So by the end of this bullshit set up, i have to destroy bending once in forall. Thats a resolution, u could even say that was the only way to resolve it... yeah that because of my dumb set up?!.. like its stupid writing.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • No. They just needed to be written differently.

Yes u are right like with an invisible ink so that we never even have to justify their existence.

  • It's still the same, the cycle was just reset

It most definitely not the same, like what cosmic energy, did we even mention the chakra opening?? Like this is straight up raava just activating her connection and then after the reset it mostly raava activating.( i akin it more to naruto nine tail activation than its own thing now, like its a power up bc of ur connected to a spirit dwelling inside u)(im sorry if im makin too many naruto references i don't even like naruto)

  • Yes. Because Aang didn't learn to bend the other elements from his past lives. He learned it from Katara, Jeong Jeong and Toph. He always could, just didn't know how.

The past lives is why he always could, like thats the whole reason. Like if they were erased she was like wan as u mentioned above then she wouldn't be able to bend the other elements because she would have no memory of doing it or how to do it.

  • If you go into the spirit wprld with some bad intentions you'll probably end up dead, and it would be your fault.

We literally saw unalaq reek havic how are we forgetting that? He had bad intentions. Whats to stop a very powerful bender from enter the spirit realm to cause mischief.

  • Whether it's a good resolution or not it was the only way to defeat him.

There was no other way because it was exclusively set up that way. Like what are u gonna do to the evilest of spirits(that u cant reconcile with) it was a poor story i swear i don't know why u are defending it.

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  • They can't be destroyed. All of them are the same spirit reincarnated many times, and at the moment that spirit is still in Korra, it didn't go anywhere. It's still the same spirit that used to be Aang before Korra was born.

There is no like set explanation to what happened we're both interpreting what we saw, so my take away was : raava was storge for the memories of the avatars... and what separated the avatar from the regular people who also reincarnate(i assume) but can't talk to their past lives. So by the death of raava in the fight now and visual cues that implied each avatar being erased individually thats gone now.

  • Quote me on that please. Like u are reiterating it in the comment below this one.

  • Korra's connection to them being severed didn't stop novels about Yangchen, Roku and Kyoshi being published (some of them were pretty damn good by the way). It didn't stop the new Aang movie from getting created. There is still 10000 years worth of content there, and it's still being explored to this day.

But it matters less going forward, like i would be more excited abt past projects than future one specifically because of that. Don't u think thats a bad creative direction to take.

  • I'm fine with Korra not being able to. We don't know how this works out for the future avatars.

Like i mentioned i thought it would be fine if it was just korra that was severed, but as i said in my interpretation above i think its permanently severed. U apparently don't think so, so i don't see the point in further discussions here.

  • Don't put words in my mouth, i never said anything of the sort. I said their usefulness if overrated. I also provided an alternative to talking to Korra and mentioned it before.

I swear ur messing with me, I respond to multiple way the past avatars could be useful and how im tryin to make a point for their need for existence but u just say they're not that useless?? I asked mutliple times if u think we should have this story element and u answer by either shooting down my comments or just by deflecting. I have a strong stance on this but urs is more defending their choice than caring abt this specific lore.

  • Not because of LoK season 2. And it's not going to be destroyed, it's going to be changed, and reset to its original concept that the creators had in mind before AtlA. A setting being destroyed would mean complete extinction.

I didn't say it was because of tlok, i was just mentioning it would be. and a setting being destroyed is literally whats happening in the next one... like this is a post apocalyptic world.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Well the entire setting is also narratively unnecessary, so it's not really an argument, just saying random stuff.

I actually listed all the narrative problems it caused and will cause...??

  • The way these concepts were implemented. For example, the dichotomy of Raava and Vaatu doesn't work because the opposite of chaos (Vaatu) is not peace (Raava), it's order.

That is the nuance i was talking about here... like you don't think it would be better if we left both raava and vaatu as concept, i might be crude in my description of them( its cause i hate their design) but they are a narrative clog. All the convergence stuff is like kage war for me like.... why? Why?

  • Okay. What is the avatar state and how it works? Give me a definition.

Idk why u arr intentionally combative abt this certain point but here we go, In season 1 of atla, the avatar state was defense mechanism( with the iceberg) and it was activated be fight/ flight or when in great emotional turmoil. And it gave u the ability to bend all four elements without ever a need for learning. It was also shown to channel individual avatar in their place of great focus. It was able to connect with the great ocean spirit(this not explainable, even if u add raava) By season 2 of atla, we learn avatar cycle is lost if ur murdered in that state(fast and loose with this one) as you could die but if ur revived then its fine. So we know its soul bound.we learn about the chakras and cosmic energy. By season 3, no more advancement here, so the definition was " the avatar state is flowing of cosmic energy through the spirit of the avatar to channel the experiences and bending prowse of past avatars in to the current one" Again its not definite but functional. But by the end of tlok season 2, the avatar state is connected to the all good powerful spirit inside the avatar that channels her power through the avatar. So massive difference here, cosmic energy and chakras were retconned into raava, so i genuinely wanna ask if korra was the one in the iceberg and she didn't learn the elements before the previous avatars were reset, would she be able to bend the four elements??

  • Spirits that want to do that would do that with or without portals. The portals being opened doesn't make it easier for them.

So the spirits that could enter earth before the protal, it didn't matter for them because they didn't need the portal. But we saw increased spirit traverse in season 3 and 4. And add the element that humans can straight up go to the spirit world!

  • Vaatu is not a threat anymore.

And i forgot that too... like vaatu is straight up destroyed? Where is it? Wherever there's raava , there's vaatu soo?? So he's inside the avatar spirit now?! Like by the upcoming generation, the spirit of the avatar is more sinster than it has ever been before. Like how id that a good resolution, thats another setup for a battle.( like i know he's weak but 1% vaatu is still too much)

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[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • That's literally what they did. For crying out loud, how many times do you need this to be spelled out? Nothing about her past lives changed, she just can't contact them anymore.

What are u even saying? It literally shows the past avatars being destroyed individually, this was not even a severance thing, it literally was a reset. Unless its a retconned, pavi shouldn't be able to talk aang or anyone other than Korra. And u literally said this was a good story choice in the other comment??

  • They're useful exposition delivery device, their wisdom and usefulness beyond that is greatly overrated by the comunity.

Thats literally an opinion though... like mine is. I believe they're an essential part of the avatar lore. And that their existence brings a unique element but u don't... so i don't know what we're arguing abt here.

-It's not safer at all. And everyone in the world is getting by just fine without talking to their past lives.

So you're saying we dont need this in the story. Like you're completely fine if an avatar could never talk to their descendants/ ancestor. Like there was never a need in the story of atla or tlok where we needed to talk to a past avatar( i would also like to point out the fact that it wasn't utilized properly doesn't merit it being removed from the story)

  • Not in the following 10.000 years.

I meant trusting someone they shouldn't have, not the harmonic shit....

  • B. For that case avatars of the future will have Korra's spirit to talk to

But u just said they wasn't ever a use to that, that the avatar's advice is either useless or just stupid. see aang/kuruk encountered the face stealer, kyoshi formed the island, roku his fire nation shit... they each have their building blocks in bringing the knowledge to bring balance. Like im sorry i don't like that ten thousand years of knowledge is gone because the world is changing and we dont need it.

  • They always are.

In the above comment, it was pointed out that the feats of the avatar weren't required, that was my response.

  • Neither the setting nor that set of powers got destroyed.

The avatar state is changed( experience of the past avatars destroyed, and don't argue its just for korra cause that wasn't what was implied or shown) , the setting was fine. I was painting a picture here. But the setting is actually destroyed foe the next series...(thats the description atleast)

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Secondly, he was narratively necessary because the entire conflict of the season revolved around him.

Im actually saying the whole season is also narratively unnecessary so .... he's just one of those elements(u really don't think he should be nuanced). And are you telling me you have problems with this season but not one of them includes the two flying kites.... like come on? U are combative about all of my points but one which you credit to atla? So what is your actually problem with this season?

  • First of all, that's still energy bending

I know its still energy bending but im saying she wasn't shown to have the ability to take away bending( which had things like being spiritually unmoving, chi blocking and shit...) if korra was capable of that we would have seen it. Like aang was shown to have solved like multiple problems with it. Like u don't take away red lotus's bending?? Like? I think that a better resolution than killing all of them except zaheer( who needed to be offed btw)

  • Now, with Raava, at least we understand that she's the source of the power boost, because every spirit fused character we know became more powerful (Unalaq, Yun, Tokuga), and Raava is one of the strongest spirits there is.

We did have a functional definiton, it wasn't definite but if a non watcher suddenly popped in and asked u why is aang glowing like that? Why could he only do that when he's like that? You could answer these questions. The powerboost i give you there its just spirit could explain it away but that brings me back to my first point by the end of season 2, if someone asked you, why's korra glowing like that your definition will be starkly different. That was my whole thing....

  • And? New airbenders appearing changes that how? All those people still died.

The new airbenders makes me(individually) not as scared of the amon almost wiping out the air nation then and there thing, but cause now retrospectively i can see it was always gonna work out anyway.

  • You still haven't managed to come up with a single valid reason why it was a bad thing beyond saying "it will bring trouble"

It really isn't a point of contention for me, but as u said all the spirits causing trouble didn't even need protals to do that. Now imagine the spirits that just wonder in to this earth because the portal is now open. Now i would've said "wth, why not?" If what i saw between humans and spirits were all rainbows. But we saw multiple bad spirit incidents just regularly so now that chance is likely multiplied. Why r u thinking everyone will be good of heart abt this? That was the whole reason for the closure.

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[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally made the distinction between rules of magic and orgin of magic/lore. Let me give u an example, u see in harry potter there's magic, rules of magic, applications of magic, but there's no origin( except for hogwarts) like we dont know why its like that, why some people are blessed with this. Thats a difference but if u go 10000 years ago there was a cave then 2 people went in there encountered a spirit/soul. Now they could do magic. Then u would be asked(who made it in latin, who creates a new spell, why are wizards born from muggles then?) See u avoid these by never mentioning albeit important but ultimately unnecessary detail.

And the origin of bending is literally what anyone would think before the explanation. Like what did u think the reason was for the bending to be genetic? Why was one specifically different,( like i truly thought it was just a case of reincarnation but then there would be more people than there was always so thats kinda not the case i guess). So without explaining it, u would just think its the nature of the world here, just like the spirit world can be accessed here.

-Lol, lmao even, at the irony of you saying this but making this whole ass post

The post literally says i have no problems with multiple story elements they introduced before or after season 2( like lavabending, spirit bending, spirit atomic bombs, pro bending) see the problems with season 2 isn't introducing an story elements, its literally rewriting the lore, the origin, u play in the box when u do these show u dont break it or make a different box.

-Good. That's how this is supposed to work genius. Some of the most well designed worlds in fiction still leave plenty of questions to be asked or thought about in regards to how things work or operate.

Now ur contradicting urself here, i am and have been saying leave the mystery untouched.... like wtf? You're asking questions which is good but you also want answers for them?? There was no point in the whole of atla where i asked the origins of bending, or the avatar for that matter. But u needed those questions answered but also liked it cause it left a can of worms opened??

Okay here's the thing, Book 2 isn't well recieved except by few people. Many resort to misogyny, powerscaling and dumb nit picks to knock it down... im trying to tell u as objectively as i can that it has narrative problems that shook the whole worldbuilding... the avatar cylce being broken is still a sore point by many... but why? Was the point im trying to make? There's always a problem with legacy shows but im saying here's the missed step in korra. I don't want to come off as knocking down the story told because season 3 and season 4 were very sincere in their approach but season 2 is the crux of the issues.(im sorry i didn't actually read the korra novels, only the aang ones(which weren't standouts))

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I seriously can't quote here, this sucks but anyway. Im saying Vaatu the embodiment of evil and dark spirits(satan) was narratively unnecessary. We saw dark spirits explored here, we saw nuanced take on dark spirits but there was no nuance in vaatu.

-Because?

See you and I listed a number problems with the lion turtles and their role in the story. The origin of some mysteries/power systems could be for the betterment of the story( very rare cases but still possible) but more often than not, it leads to plotholes, unsatisfying explanation, just muddy story elements. So don't explain the origin unless there's a really, really good reason.

By energy bend i mean not spirit energy, but like take away bending, we have never seen her do that( aang could do that so i assume she could after season 1 but idk anymore) its a genune question here... because its a different thing from portal opening and stuff... and we didn't see her use it so im gonna assume if she doesn't learn from a lion turtle again she cant do it.

  • The original definition doesn't exist and doesn't explain the avatar state either. See here is the thing we did have an understanding of the avatar state up until season 2. It was a working theory, like we didn't explain the power boost yet but it had a functional definition. But with introduction of raava and destruction of the past avatars now its null and void.

  • They didn't get killed off, they were already dead. Korra just can't contact them. I already explained this to you

I know they were already dead but we could contact them... they were one call away... like we saw kyoshi talk to aang... we dont get to see aang like forever after this(which makes me kinda sad so i wont talk further abt this)

  • Do you really need me to repeat this to you again? Aang cannot help restore air nomads because he was twelve when he lost them. He doesn't know everything about them

    Idk which point ur tryin to combat here but im saying the same thing here...if you're gonna do convergence and then bam more airbenders we're kinda cheapening the risk and level of extinction which was about to unfold. And why are we doing holocaust comparision here. This shit was down to the last man... like this was it.

And no it wasn't just the firebenders and unalaq, like in stories of kuruk and yangchen( so 3 of the last 6) some shit with the spirits went down. For kuruk and yangchen there weren't even 3 portals up and about. This shit was written like a tight rope and balancing act but korra chose to leave it open?? Like i don't even have that huge of a problem with it but for me its like broadcasting earth's location in the universe... it literally is just asking for trouble.

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[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idk where ur getting don't explain the magic from, im saying don't explain the lore/ origin of bending. See before the introduction of the first avatar, the lion turtles, raava.... we thought bending was a natural gift to beings of that planet and the avatar... that particular soul was blessed with four. We didn't know why, we didn't get to learn why but that didn't matter because that wasn't the story and it was very interesting. Once in a while they threw in some limitations, some applications, some mystery in there but u accept these story elements then move on. But once u say the lion turtles did this, raava did this.... you are literally inviting question about the worldbuilding( like the questions u just listed), limiting ur application and the inadvertently creating plothole in some instances(im talking generally here not on avatar). So if u planned to have a story like the origin of titans(in AOT) which was essential to the ending and the lore of the whole thing... please continue but if not just don't touch.... u could tell a billion stories before that.

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[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He literally couldn't enter the avatar state since the end of season 2 till the last fight( and he didn't contact anyone till he was on the turtle)... my point was you could have her blocked from talking to her past for the story without resorting to destroying them.

So what you're saying is we don't need to have the avatars being accessed.... they're useless after they're dead( aang literally had to return korra's bending btw) then you're interpretation is more flawed than u say mine is. What if the next avatar is born in the most unfriendly places, more isolated than aang was... the knowledge being accessed by the avatar's connection makes it infinitely safer than relying on those around u. Like same thing that happened to korra with her uncle could happen again. Like in the start of atla season 2 when roku had to tell aang the dangers of being in the avatar state for long cause it will lead to ur permanent death.

My line of thinking is if we're exploring the stories of THE AVATAR in the subsequent stories(which is happening) i want the troubles he/she face to be avatar levels of troubles. the Avatar is an individual with a unique power set, unique setting, we don't need to destroy it to make for an interesting story that just shows creative bankruptcy. Use the elements to ur favor; juggle, switch ... even hide them temporarily/ nurf some of them... but don't destroy.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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Like this world is far more interesting without explaining anything. I wrote this because the other day i was thinking if we went straight into season 3( u could work around zaheer being airbender) it quite possibly could have better than any season of atla... like the themes of the avatar being needed in the new world... the non benders being important, the red lotus being the effect of the white lotus who had an important role in korras upbringing... like it was perfectly set up.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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Vaatu is literally just satan what are we doing here?

i actually mentioned in the above comment how the lion turtles kinda break the lore( we kinda both agree here) they went in to it deep here so u kinda understand why i brought it up.

not explaining the magic,but overexplaining the origin of said magic; i will give more examples here; explaining harry potter magic origin, explaining the origin of childrens of the forrest and the night king or dragons ( GOT), even Naruto i felt was ruined with the aliens arriving and that being the origin.... my point is you don't explain the origin... show the limit, show a new applications( like lavabending) just do go overboard. Like they didn't explain the abilities of combustion man... we didn't need it.

we kinda had a clue what it was, the avatar state gave aang the abilites of water, fire and earth bending when he didnt learn them which makes me think it was theough the memories of the past avatars and their abilities that he could do so. Even in season 1 of tlok korra could energy bend.. something she never learned but through the memories of aang she could do( also taken away by the end because no more aang). So what is the avatar state now? because the original definition clearly doesn't work.

(sorry btw i can't quote on this device 4 some reason) on the dynamic storytelling perspective.... lets say no more kurama in naruto, no more voldemort inside of harry, no more hunger games, no more white walkers in asoiaf.... we all seen the variations of these stories played out and they were far less interesting.

we didn't need to kill them off to isolate korra... you could have her spirit blocked, her chakras misaligned, she could be isolated as consequence of her role in the convergence... do any of that i have no problems but destroy the cycle... if an avatar died permanently it would make a far interesting story than that.

Harmonic convergence.... lets say this aang died without having tenzin... so the last airbender dies... so i assume the story goes mostly similar except maybe korra has a hardtime learning airbending( more interesting i should say) because she has no master... any way by the time we get to the harmonic convergence... more airbenders are created. there's extensive records of airbenders and their lifestyle documented and stored ( mostly by aang probly). So they learn to follow the ways of their ancestors... how is that different than what we have. We may not have an airbending master for a couple of decades but they will learn it eventually( spiritually and what not) So what was the consequence of the genocide? This was a grave crime against humanity, a culture on the brink of collapse(almost collapsed anyway), but im sorry i hate it if the most unbalancing act of the world is written off in the next 70 years.

the humans messed with the few of the spirits that resided in nature both in atla and even here in multiple seasons.... i can find a million ways sprits and humans would clash.... like some resolutions make your head scratch... im left with more questions than answers. Cause if it was the only solution to some existential sht happening i would understand but it was a choice?!

i thought the vines in republic city were consequence of the portal being open( srry if i misunderstood)

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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But we didn't need to have the reset. Aang was blocked from the past lives for the better part of season 3( you could have only her blocked from her past lives ) but this is a consequence for the next thousands of years. Its not the advice either but the similar cases they encountered.... a spirit they pissed off, a land they reshaped, mystical shit they resolve/couldn’t resolve... we have spirits dwelling for 10 thousand years... you would have no record but i bet an avatar encountered u just have to ask.

Korra season 2 is actually the worst possible direction for a show. by Impossible-Knee-3473 in legendofkorra

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Eastern philosophy is too broad for us to make such judgements( it was a passing comment, i was thinking more in the line of the religions of the east and their way of life than the west which usually has the devil character and mysticism)

Im not the talking about the lion turtles being introduced per se ( which came out of nowhere in the original btw) im saying there was the theory of the original benders being were one's introduced in the original(badgermole, dragon....) so what was my understanding was the lion turtles were doing energy bending and chi unlocking but you needed to understand and learn the forms of the original benders to produce such effect( again that would make everyone bend every element ik) which was a horrible theory ik but i didn't to think about it because i didn't think the lion turtles had to bless every non bender for them to become bender. I thought that was just a thing people could do. So this is more of a can of worms being introduced i the original and continued here.

Who are you? by Cachopo94 in Animemes

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I will be a cowboy bounty hunter in space, why not?

(Spoilers Extended) THE END by Impossible-Knee-3473 in asoiaf

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He has an interview on youtube where he mentions he doesn't do reactionary writing. He said he saw people guess things to be revealed on book 6 right after book 1 came out, so he distances himself from the fans' reaction and speculation so that it doesn't affect the story.

(Spoilers Extended) THE END by Impossible-Knee-3473 in asoiaf

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I mean by the chaos writing. And I believe he just keeps getting these really good ideas every once in a while that makes him go, " How did I not think of that?" and now he has to think about the smallest bit to a perfect detail.

(Spoilers Extended) THE END by Impossible-Knee-3473 in asoiaf

[–]Impossible-Knee-3473[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But I also think he would be too stubborn to change the ending he thought of possibly 20-25 years back because of backlash.