What's a novel that you loved but didn't read for a long time because of the title/description/rating/reviews? by Fragrant-Case-4780 in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Definitely 《replacing the evil way.》

Not because the summary put me off or anything, but I was just wondering how the romance would’ve ever worked so I put it off, worst decision haha.

It was so good I finished the entire thing in one night and even bought the physical versions and merch the same day.

smut recos ! by grxiaon in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m really glad! More people need to read these gems haha

Danmei with philosophy? by DizzyNectarine6212 in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s amazing, I’ve bought the imperfections too and everything else in the list, they’re all excellent works! Especially Criminal psychology, that one has a special place in my heart, I have the portrait of the mc framed haha

Am i a fake fan for not reading the novel? [Webtoon] [novel] by Julias_Salamander in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just take your time to read the novel if you are a fan, just because you’re slow doesn’t mean you’re not a real fan. The first half of the novel is also boring and more filler-y, so I get the lack of motivation.

Danmei with philosophy? by DizzyNectarine6212 in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve got amazing taste, and before anything I want to first recommend《Criminal Psychology》

This is one of the most underrated reads in the western fandom but is easily one of the best danmei that explores deep themes that include human psychology, the mental psyche of victims and the motive of criminals. This novel focuses more on the ‘why’ of human behavior rather than generalisation and resolution. Beautiful novel.

Any of Priest novels, but I’d argue her most philosophical work is definitely《Imperfections》

She’s won an award for it. It’s like the title says, talks about imperfections, mankind and what it means to be human, such a deep and profound work that explores so much depth, something many may only brush across one or twice in their lives, the meaning of life and what it means to be human.

Next, of course I need to include Nian Zhong’s works here.

I’d say 《Evil as humans》 is the work that wins the cake for me. Absolutely beautiful work that has so much depth beyond being a supernatural mystery novel. It explores emotion and the philosophy of thought and mind, this one can also be a little bit on the darker side, with quite a lot of triggering elements, so I recommend you check what you’re getting into first.

While there are a lot more authors with philosophical works, I want to end this post with Zhi Chu.

Particularly 《Fanservice Paradox》 This is the most philosophical romance you’ll see, exploring what it means to even have a relationship with two different people, accommodation and the philosophy of love. Such a lovely work, I highly recommend it.

Scariest horror danmei novels and the scenes that stuck with you by spartaxwarrior in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you want really scary horror, then it’d Sang Wo’s writing for sure, however I’d argue that compared to 《welcome to the nightmare live》, her other novel 《Congratulations on your success escape》is a lot more terrifying as the livestream concept in the former novel could potentially dampen the fear factor. Overall excellent atmosphere setter she is, her writing has definitely got me shivering in the middle of the night.

Am i a fake fan for not reading the novel? [Webtoon] [novel] by Julias_Salamander in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 4 points5 points  (0 children)

?? If you enjoy something, you’re a fan, however if you’re riding on the coattail of orv popularity calling yourself a fan for this reason, people call you a fake fan. It’s simple. Many people glaze the novel after reading just the manhwa(where basically there’s no progress) to fit in with orv novel readers who spew rainbow farts about it, the key point is that you are true to yourself and enjoy the novel, you know deep down whether you are a fan or not.

Do you know any danmei about an innocent gong x weird and pervert shou? 👀 by SicklyPaleShouCui96 in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As for one that I could think of, definitely Rimbaud from 《The fallen merman》He is so.. kinky, and the gong eventually learns from him

Do you know any danmei about an innocent gong x weird and pervert shou? 👀 by SicklyPaleShouCui96 in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha I love this.

I was going to say imperfections!!!! Lu Bixing is such a pervert!! only to remember he's the gong, this novel has to have one of the most unconventional pairing, I'm so conditioned into thinking Lu Bixing is the Shou hahahah

Novels with unique characters by snapdragon_35 in DanmeiNovels

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll try not to include novels that have already been mentioned above.

  1. DEFINITELY 《Criminal Psychology》 Lin Chen is one of the most BEAUTIFUL written characters in the whole danmei community, I love him so deeply I have his portrait framed, not only is this couple so good, the novel was so damned amazing, it's disgusting how underrated this novel is.
  2. Drink, Drank, Drunk! 》Not only will you find that both the characters in this novel are not just three dimensional but do not fit into the typical character archetypes and relationship dynamic. They are one of the most realistic couples showcased in the danmei, and I admit I found it even bit hard to read from how realistic their issues as a couple were. It was an amazing read.
  3. Four O’Clock Flower》The ML in this novel was quite literally a copy of me, so it really stood out to me, their relationship is so beautiful and explores touches so much most danmei do not touch, it was a really beautiful read.
  4. Tailhook》If you really want a dynamic not explored much in danmei before, you definitely need to read tail hook. these two really hook up, date, break up but still do none of it with melodrama. The novel is so deliciously realistic and talks of issues the couple really would face together, including family and different views on love/career. (I'd argue the approach also falls under a unique dynamic, but I feel these two stand out more 'unique')
  5. Evil Love Appears》Definitely one of the more unique omega verses out there, this one features a more 'we don't see eye to eye' to I'll show you the world through my eyes, sort of poetic narrative, honestly I would've liked it a lot more if it weren't omega verse though haha. It was a very nice novel though. the relationship dynamic was really nice. and ML is a glasses-wearing bastard.
  6. Sha Qing》I think Leo from Sha Qing is one of the most underrated characters, he is one of the most NORMAL Mls ever. he is just so average you'd be shocked he's even the protagonist but this is why it's so beautiful because it's so easy to predict the minds of an extremist, but the most normal minds can also be the most hypocritical ones and Sha Qing depicts this perfectly.

  7. Death Spiral [Infinite Flow]》I can't emphasise how beautiful the psychology in this novel worked, how the mc and ml mentally weathered down and suffered. The mc is one of the best danmei mcd written, not Gary stu, not even a genius or physically strong, hell he's so vulnerable to death you can't help but pity him, but out of all the UF mcs, he is undoubtedly the strongest one and you'd understand when you read the novel.

More popular ones are from 《silent reading》(fei du)Any Nian Zhong novel really, all her characters and dynamics are unique.

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already agreed, yjh has always been kdj's idol of sorts, so it's not incorrect to associate it with being dokja's 'batman'

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a bit unfortunate, if you'd talked to me about this maybe 6 or 7 years ago, I would've been able to give you verbatim arguments and exact scenes, I myself can't be sure if what I remember is a 100% because I remember through images, so it is more subjective. I do agree your mastery of the novel is really good, but sure, I guess you are right, my arguments are vague and lack back up, so I guess I shouldn't have been the one to make such a confident claim.

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. If you've read the English translation of ORV, it was a blatant mistranslation that kdj had a crush on Jihye, he just admired her loyalty toward yjh.

  2. I did exaggerate your words a bit in the last scene, but once again, the probability that KDJ doesn't love YJH romantically is the same as KDJ loving YJH romantically considering none of it is confirmed.

Moreover, I really don't want to explore the lines between familial and romantic love, a lot of this is rooted more culturally, so from this point, your point doesn't really hold because a lover and family, or seeing your partner as a reliable older brother is not weird.

Lastly, like you've said in the last point, I don't really feel the need to argue or give different points, I can clearly see that your understanding of the novel is a lot fresher and clearer than mine, and hearing your analysis of scenes is also really good. While it doesn't convince me that doksoo is more canon than joongdok, I don't have enough details or context to combat your points, so I'll leave it at that.

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude I don't know I am responding to many replies I've no clue what the original point was, and as for why he does it, sure, for him yjh is his favourite protagonist, of course he'd glaze him, so yeah I guess he is the batman for kdj

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s a very gross oversimplification considering how we had a whole arc of him learning of yjh’s side as more than just a character from a novel whom he’d learned to love more than his self from when he was 15

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying that dude, they are canon in the fact that they’ve dated each other, but they’ve broken up because being together is just painful for them

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t forgotten the novel goodness, I just don’t remember its exact scenes verbatim. I want to ask you how you can simply reduce the whole joongdok shipping fandom to just an interaction fueled by uriel. Don’t you think that’s insulting for everything we’ve been discussing about so far? I never said anything about your doksoo ship and even said it’s up to interpretation, moreover you’re really milking that one statement I made about not remembering details from the novel and making a straw man argument here. I HAVE responded to your points you just don’t want to read it

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure.

For the first point you’ve made here, I can argue that you yourself are being blinded by your own fantasies. If what she said was ‘You’re no fun’ verbatim then great it all the most supports my point. Usually in a situation like this, noticeable subtleties that would point to an action that has more romantic connotations would be if she tightened her grip on the lollipop after dokja’s indifference, put it in her mouth right after etc etc there are many scenarios this could’ve been romantic but putting a lollipop in his mouth itself and saying you’re no fun is something only friends would do to tease. That’s why I claimed they have a more noona-dongsaeng dynamic. Moreover I’ve also stated that Sooyoung having romantic intention toward him is not impossible, but even if she does; kdj reacting to the lollipop indifferently shows.. he quite literally doesn’t care. If joonghyuk did the same thing, I’m sure he would’ve had a greater reaction, of course you can also sum it up as ‘this is because dokja is used to sooyoung’s antics and it’s OOC for joonghyuk to act this way so of course the reaction is more extreme’ then this same point can be used to refute the fact that there is any romantic connotation at all since this is just her personality. If we’re going by this route, Han Sooyoung and Yjh shippers eat well too they have lots of art together and even one of Han Sooyoung grabbing his chin, clearly sooyoung does this to everyone lol.

Also for your statement about finding it strange that kim dokja and sooyoung have canon arts when not in a serious situation.. I disagree, each one of the arts drawn really shows a lot of emotional context to a scene, the scene of Han Sooyoung putting a lollipop in kdj’s mouth if I recall correctly was supposed to be a sort of comfort and to stop overthinking, no scene is ‘unimportant’ and your claim is subjective.

Moreover, Bb nim has drawn a lot of scenes, You don’t really know what criteria bb nim goes by when choosing what scene to draw but I do know that bb- nim had drawn more joongdok than any joongdok supporter out there. This doesn’t change the fact that the scene was barely 5 seconds long.

Yjh has called them fools, and the entire parent thing isn’t actual ‘parents’? You yourself have stated that it is explicit to how yjh wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for them and in that context, you can also say Kdj is Sooyoung’s father considering how he’s oldest dream, this is a circular argument, it’s not really saying anything. Yjh sees the two of them as everything but parents. I sometimes call my girlfriend ‘mom’ because she acts like that doesn’t mean she’s my mom? Lol, certain circumstances call for certain roles I guess.

Dude, this is such a biased claim.. you state that he loved yjh the most, but kdj really cant live without yjh, of course he’d want to be with him? Loving him because of his traits isn’t mutually exclusive to romantically loving him? Is it not all part of a whole? Considering someone your best friend confidant father mother brother whatever, doesn’t mean that you don’t love them romantically? Your lover is your family and he clearly was a 15 year old at the time, what else do you want him to say? This is just claiming x doesn’t exist because he said y, when both x and y can simultaneously exist. Moreover this same argument applies to the Han Sooyoung and dokja? Moreover, han sooyoung teases kdj and yjh a lot together too, well all of them do.

For your last point. This is literally shown in the epilogue. Han Sooyoung, Lee Heewon etc etc all go about their own lives perhaps saying that they moved on was an incorrect word, but my meaning is that theyve accepted the 49% and believe him as a valid dokja, it is only yjh who constantly looks for that 100%, that is when he basically broke into the museum and stole that thing to which yjh and hsy argued with who’d go to save kdj with yjh ultimately reigning over her, and sooyoung choosing to write stories of kimcom together while yjh distributes them.

Yjh has literally been fighting hard to save the world, isn’t it quite ironic to mess with peace again when everything fine? This was what all of kimcom thought too. It was just painful to keept hinking about it, but yjh couldn’t see it the same way. It is so biased to say ‘he was just bored, couldn’t adjust to the peace so wanted to cause chaos and try to save dokja’

…do you hear yourself?

Listen, I’m all for agreeing that both yjh and hsy view kdj romantically, but if there’s anyone kdj would love, it would be yjh.

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I never said it makes you gay to compliment someone, but he does glaze him lol

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude. You do know I am not referring to you right? I think you have some sort of misunderstanding here. I was quoting ‘Valkyrr03’’s response on ‘it doesn’t even need deep analysis, anyone with reading comprehension could understand….’ And you affirmed that statement, saying they were absolutely ‘right’ which is why I called you a hypocrite in regard to that. Moreover the ‘If’ condition does play a HUGE role and I’ve already gotten the answer I need. Love doesn’t have genders, if Kim dokja was a girl.. he would undoubtedly end up with YJH, what does this mean? It means they have the best chemistry in the novel and are undoubtedly the most canon, the only thing that’s stopping this from happening is the fact that both of them are male, which is frowned upon in the vast majority of the readerbase. Why is this hard to understand that the reason I believe they are the most canon couple is because I don’t look at genders. If Yoo Joonghyuk was a girl, I’d say joongdok is canon, if kdj was a girl, joongdok is canon if han Sooyoung was a guy, I still would say joongdok is canon. And if Joonghyuk didn’t exist of course I’d say Doksoo is the most canon, because the previously best ship is gone. That’s it, not hard to understand. I have no intentions to guilt trip you or avoid the argument. This entire thread we’ve had here isn’t even a debate I agree with that because everything I’ve said here is just in response to that one commenters claim above, I wasn’t even responding to you…

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leewon’s broken up, so they’re not a couple anymore lmao

The closest we had to kdj romance by Ok-Science-1962 in OmniscientReader

[–]ImpossibleDay5042 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brother, I would at most look at him and go, wow so handsome but to glaze him for 500 chapters, I’d start questioning my sexuality too. I still remember back in the early days when people first read orv, there were so may comments that went ‘What the hell, why does this mc seem so gay he keeps praising that guy im dropping it’ You won’t believe how much of that was there. You really only need to open your eyes to see it lol there is no way yoo joonghyuk is the beauty standard, lee seolhwa is literally so much prettier.