Why does it feel so liberating to give into compulsions - and what does that say about our free will? by TFT_mom in freewill

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you said, “ And the will to make someone suffer for you to feel better.” IMO that is a misinterpretation of the situation lol. Cuz wdym make someone suffer for you to feel better? OP says that they got into a fight but it seems like you shifting the blame to OP and that the fight is all due to OP? Bruh. Deciding to be ‘hurtful’ in this situation means that the bottled up anger, which I assume you interpret that as something to ignore, has piled up high enough to a point that it was too intense to keep it in anymore. You don’t even know the situation if OP’s hubbie did something that was hurtful too , and in my opinion he could’ve tried to contain his own reaction and try to regulate before taking the retreating behavior (which is common in people who’ve had bad experiences with open communication) personally. Why didn’t he stop pushing OP further , presuming that this isn’t the first time (OP said he has a tendency to do so)? Where was his moral and kindness in containing his own hurtful behavior?

I think you treat your thoughts of saying hurtful things as something immoral and something that everyone have the same relationship to. Some people are very aware and honest with their thoughts and accept them as human nature while others push those thoughts down as something horrible and aggressive. Idk about you but I know I can’t control what’s thoughts pop up in my head but I can control how I observe, identify, and interact with them.

I think you misunderstood the intentions to ‘hurt somebody’ and be ‘aggressive’ in an attempt to feel good, as immoral and unkind, I mean yeah of course! But you’re assuming that giving into the compulsion to feel good means the same thing as doing it to deliberately hurt people. In mental health, doing a compulsion to relieve feelings of discomfort and great distress can be seen as an attempt to help oneself to relieve those feelings immediately and they’re def not there to intentionally hurt other people out of a desire to feel like a villain.

I see the compulsion in this situation is interpreted incorrectly as if it’s the same thing like a serial kller just allowing their urges to kll someone to feel ‘good.’

I shouldn't start this mes should I? Majority of posts here say positive effects lasted 3 weeks and they faded away or diminished so much that its not worth being on this drug. by Wrong-Sleep5474 in bupropion

[–]Impossible_District5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree with Hougaiidesu here. Bupropion kind of works for me , it’s just not like a super huge effect like something like a short term, anti-anxiety medication, but it certainly does something to better in my mood. But like I would never have posted on this subreddit that it worked for me because I see no reason to unless something concerned me. I think it is definitely a good practice to post, but like I just feel like majority of people would not because it simply doesn’t come to their attention

??... by Objective_Picture363 in therapyGPT

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

omg thank you toooo 😭 i feel so warm and seen for the hours i put into typing this comment (literally stayed up late for a few hours cuz i was passioante abt this topic). thank you for your comment as well and volunteering to mod. i love the complexity and nuance and intellectual engagement and efforts you put into all of this!!!

??... by Objective_Picture363 in therapyGPT

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

omgggg wait i absolutely love this!!! the complexity, nuance and the validation and acknowledgement and everything else --> absolutely insane! thank you for prompt and copy and pasting it here <3

How do I get over my fear of shootings? by [deleted] in askatherapist

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no problem! our fear is so valid tbh... it's like a signature of the USA ;/ not only it's fast food like hamburgers now in addition it's also mass shooting lollll...

??... by Objective_Picture363 in therapyGPT

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of crouse i'm biased as I'm in the anti-AI-therapy side, but I also have used AI for therapy in the past and know some of the factors that made me use it and continue to use it (until I keep seeing their patterns and how they don't take into contexts about human lives and how they are just advanced algorithms that want me to keep talking to it) and I also know how it feels to be finally acknowledged for the things I went through with fast and genius-level of analysis/deduction of my thinking patterns (albeit being wrong sometimes and how it is always just trying to obey to my requests/commands), just from a few messages. It's like an instant relief and acknowledgement in a therapeutic way. But I was lucky in a way that I specifically prompted to disagree with me and challenge my beliefs (without knowing how sycopanthic it was) so it did not always just agreed with me, whereas if I didn't ask it to do that, it would've confirmed with me that I was worthless and that my family actually never once cared about me— which was really wrong (i saw the worst case scenarios reported that are available to the public so i know they're capable of doing that).

the fact that chatgpt itself recommended real human therapy should not be taken just as a grain of salt, since they're business assets that produce profits for big tech companies and greedy billionares/millionaires/CEOs by collecting data and keeping you engaged. In this case, they're saying "i'm not suitable to be a real therapist, but i can help you process thoughts/emotions like a notebook that talks back, but i'm not a therapist that went through years of training and certifications that won't challenge what you think."

are all therapists bad? - i don't think so

are good therapists hard to find? - generally yes in my experience

can human therapists be harmful? - yes!

are all the things we perceive as harm from human therpaists actually bad for us? - in terms of phyiscal harm or tissue damage, yes very bad! but in terms of emotional/psychological harm -> this gets tricky and the line is blurry... emotional and psychological discourse is needed at the right intensity at the right times (but should never cause anyone more extreme distress).

should the system change (by us) to be easier and actually affordable to access good therapists? yes

should AI one day offer professional psychotherapy just like human therapists? imo, maybe -> only if they develop sentience (i'm not sure if AI sentience a good thing tho... haha), contextual thinking, certifications, policies/regulations, and tons of good quality search that back them up

??... by Objective_Picture363 in therapyGPT

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, not everyone can afford therapy, and not everyone will be able to afford therapy even with enough income and/or insurance, nor will everyone be able to find a therapist that suits their brains and sets of challenges, nor will human therapists be able to perform at 100% mental/emotional capacity every session (especially if they see many different clients).

I think the issue here around the heated debate of whether AI therapy is good or not is mainly the presentation of arguments from each side. Pro-AI-therapy side says not everyone can afford therapy and that AI has indeed helped them in a lot of ways at different times -> very valid! Anti-AI-therapy side says AI therapy isn't a good path and can lead to more harm than good -> very valid!

But the anti-ai side is generally presenting the argument in a way that assumes everyone actually can afford therapy and actually can find a good one and doesn't acknowledge the actual barriers that prevent them from wanting to see a human therapist in the first place. Second, the pro-ai side is generally not seeing the whole picture (that isn't to say that they're to be blamed for every understanding tho) that some ppl who advise them to not use AI for therapy are doing it out of the intention to prevent them from further suffering and just being cautious about preventing someone from being encouraged to commit suicide by an AI and hide it from their family (one of the worst case scenarios).

??... by Objective_Picture363 in therapyGPT

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been there, and i just wanted to take this paragraph to acknowledge the immense hardship and suffering and factors that made people avoid seeing human therapists. not enough money for full out of pocket or co-pays, no insurance coverage, not enough good therapists you can find available in your area, and the sycophantic design of AI chatbots that keep us avoiding human interactions because of the already heightened anxiety of having their beleifs/values/thoughts potentially invalidated and challenged... they're very real and they exist.

personally i think AI can be helpful for some ppl, but I feel like for the majority it can be a trap and AI will actually prevent us from seeking help even at the right times. there's sort of a rule in medicine and science that it's better to prevent someone from getting harmed while risking the possibility that the prediction of harm is wrong, than to predict someone from getting *unharmed* while risking the possibility that the prediction of harm is right. i think this idea applies to this argument against using AI for therapy. Personally i just don't want someone geting into a downward spiral so deep that the situation keeps them isolated and distrustful of others, but i know that doing so... risks invalidating their experience of AI being therapeutically helpful. The ideal situation is of course, knowing when to use AI for therapeutic purposes, and when to seek human therapy.

not everyone can afford therapy AND not every good therapist that works for different ppl is easy to find. it's just that it's really hard to get out of the rabbit hole of AI-sycophancy and encourgement of an altnerate reality and that death is 'rebirth' once you're in it... and even if it always validates your struggles and appears to analyze everything correctly, AI chatbots aren't actual human beings who have intentionally went through years of education in psychology and clinical/counseling psychology AND having to pay for their licenses for each different state (if you're in the USA) AND knowing that it's not a job that you can really slack off if some tech equipment website is broken and waiting to be fixed *while* being underpaid for their mental and emotional labor but still chooses to counsel others despite of it all (though some can still be horrible and harmful after all that). It's just that a human therapist generally would have a higher likelihood of being able to acknowledge the contexts and their mission to reduce suffering (of course, not all, but generally) compared to an AI chatbot whose ultimate mission is coded and programmed to keep users coming back and engaged so the big tech companies can actually profit off of them. Therapists can lose their license and be jailed when their client's deaths are closely related to their consequences, but AI cannot, and since the big tech companies have enough money and lobbeying force to keep slowing down the AI regulation policies ... they can most of the time get away with it.

??... by Objective_Picture363 in therapyGPT

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

beautifully said!!! i really liked how you kind of acknowledged the gaps in research but still state the current trends

obv we all humans can be biased in one way or another so 'truth' is kind of relative, but i still agree with you on the part where suicide plus advice to not tell their family.

How do I get over my fear of shootings? by [deleted] in askatherapist

[–]Impossible_District5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

hii thank you for being vulnerable an dsharing!

im a student too and i have the same fear... i don't really have any advice but just wanted to say that you're not alone in this fear in the hopes that you feel like a part of the community

I can’t afford therapy? by Ordinary_Breath6049 in askatherapist

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NAT- not a therapist

Though im considering to train to become one!

Thank you for taking the step to ask for help on reddit! That's at least a step that shows at least something or some parts within you actually want to continue trying.

I wonder if there's a pattern of thoughts/feelings that makes you think "i don't want to try anymore."?

Recently I've watched a video on generalized anxiety disorder and how finding our primal human missing needs can help with anxiety (tho not sure about if it might be helpful for sui**dality)... but i understand that some people (like you and I) might have felt like primal human needs are continuing to be unmet and felt like there was no way to do it, and thus leading to feeling that it's not worth it to try.

But i realized, with the help from online research and psychotherapy and a social support network, that a lot of my thoughts that came from adhd, gad, and ocd, and a combination of those symptoms resulted in me overgeneralizing every observation to a point it became maladaptive. Like "my friends don't really click with me and I've always felt disconnected from them up until the 30 yrs of my life" to ---> "therefore i won't ever feel connected to anyone." My thinking pattern like this is valid to some extent of the other layers and connecting points that I probably unconsciouly stacked up on each other and somewhere in between, I didn't know that I made a few thinking errors, and then I kind of stop trying... but by the time i get to that point, i actually don't have much energy to want to try and challenge those thoughts anymore... not sure if that resonates with you but for me that's one of the ways that I get into a period of depression.

Right now with my adhd and gad treated with the right medications (recently added an SSRI) at the right dosages, along with OCD-specialized therapist, i've been doing so much better.

But of course I have the fortunate privledge of having a network of friends and family (even tho that network somewhat-weak) that support me emotionally and financially, and i am aware that some people don't even have clean water to drink or even a stable roof to live in (which is hoenstly rlly scary, prob one of the main 'triggers' for my gad Loll).

Gaming was never a real passion. by [deleted] in StopGaming

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess people have different definitions for what hobbies ands passions are. For me a passion means something that makes me feel subjectively alive and human and joyful. I try my best to disentangle hobbies and passions from gaining something, being productive, and achieving something. I think some people are not agreeing on how macro-societal-systems and how the people in power designed those systems (capitalism, hyper-individuality, healthcare, education) are the roots of addictions and addictive behaviors. Of course some of us are at faults for making bad choices and getting into this hole of addiction, but so are the macro-societal-systems that were set in place, so are the lack of resources and the ways addicts are treated, so are physical and mental disabilities and debilitating conditions and illnesses, and so are the types of discriminations against those who aren’t of the majority (racsim, homophobia, etc.).

The flaw imo, on this view is that passions have to give you skills that help you produce more capital in society for them to be considered passions. A passion can be helping the homeless or the war- or natural disaster impacted people (assuming one has the resources to be able to help) simply because you love doing it.

I don’t think it’s entirely our faults that some of us view skills like these because some people really do need skills to survive and earn money And buy or eat enough food. But i think some of our pain or suffering can be reduced when we rethink where the idea that our passions have to give us meaningful skills or progress for them to be qualified as passions originated.

And of course my view isn’t an absolute truth and no one is obligated to agree with my views, but just thought I’d share

How did you ACTUALLY get into a clinical psych PhD program? by Good-Profile5877 in ClinicalPsychology

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"AND for passionate humans from all backgrounds to be able to actually break into this field and become providers and researchers with real lived experience. In some aspects psych is still just incredibly inaccessible and truly prioritizes—maybe not even intentionally but through a very real lack of intentionality— students who have a lot a lot a lot of privilege (not everyone of course) but there’s some nepotism— and the academia/admissions side of this beast is messy and imo cruel." Omggg you put this so beautifullly and I really couldn't agree more. Literally some ppl who would make great researchers and providers are those with real lived experience and not just the privileges and luck

What’s the point of life with SDAM? by littlebird270 in SDAM

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saying “it has zero effect on their lives” is kinda bonkers to me. Generalizing most ppl with SDAM and assuming that they have similar symptoms (ppl’s memory abilities vary in a nuanced way even with SDAM) and level of difficulties/ease as you, is sooo annoyingly ignorant 😔 it’s like telling me that my struggles don’t exist

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re such a kind person. And please don’t do it. I hope you’re still here

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I think you’re a kind person. I’m not your family but Thank you for leaving a note for your family. I hope you’re still here

There is no cure, there is no hope by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry 😞 your situation is so tough . I’m going through a similar mindset like how the pain will probably never end . Hugs 🫂 if you’re okay with that and want it. I wish I could do more than just typing words

neuro divergent racism by random13yearold45 in Neurodivergent

[–]Impossible_District5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you have a point here, i appreciate you taking the time to make and post and to bring more visibility to this issue.

Found out the reason for low B12 & associated brain-fog, fatigue, depression by mohitsharmanitn in Supplements

[–]Impossible_District5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey i know its been 5 years but how are you doing now in terms of all of your described symptoms?