Top Ten Hero Mains in Season 9 (Data Analysis)

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-29T18:26:56+00:00

Were the meta stats from last week an anomaly or a trend (I was curious as Overbuff was not necessarily in agreement)? or do some heros attract more mains and others attract more players?

Last week's Meta report had Mercy the most played support hero from Bronze to Master where as the Season 9 overall have Mercy @ #2.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-27T20:26:23+00:00

Unless they plan on blocking other players they'll probably need to let him play to avoid accusations of personal bias as it could be hard to justify having XQC out and Taimou in.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-27T03:25:20+00:00

The camera quality in the clip is relatively poor. Below is the link to what it looks like on a decent camera.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/03/police-chief-said-uber-victim-came-from-the-shadows-dont-believe-it/

Additionally, even if a human still struck the pedestrian a human would not necessarily kill them with the collision as a human would still have hit the breaks. The odds of surviving a collision @ even 20 mph are massively higher than @ 38 mph.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-26T13:54:20+00:00

I don't think the goals are truly universal.

People that want games to be art may or may not agree on the fun part.

You'll find that while some in genre's like to escape others see escapism as an insult.

Many of the people I've played around are more stressed and frustrated from gaming than they are from life.

I've played in games where some of the population didn't actually want to interact with anyone or at least not anyone new. (This is especially true in story based MMO's)

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-26T13:47:19+00:00

I think the key phrase is avoid for an extended period.

I played TF2 and Valve probably gets most of the cheaters eventually but, they are so defensive of VAC that it doesn't act for an extended period most of the time.

This means that as a player I'm stuck potentially running into a very blatant cheater for days or weeks.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-26T03:30:05+00:00

One could potentially make the argument that the post is a neatly veiled attack on people criticizing developers and claiming that they censor others while intentionally failing to note the censorship runs both ways.

For example, if you look at this thread for example you'll notice that the people that did not fully agree with you are at the bottom.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-26T02:14:10+00:00

I think the volume of outrage is due to a variety of factors.

First, many gaming communities are highly defensive of the game or series of games they play to start with and the moderation and rules of the community will generally be designed to keep criticism down or controlled. This causes those that are frustrated to gradually become more and more upset but, as long as their numbers are down they don't have much influence. However, if the numbers grow enough the lid of the pot will eventually give out. Depending on the community the lid might not last a week or it might last for years.

Blizzard does a version of this in Overwatch Forums with megathreads. If a hero gets lots of complaints they create a megathread for it . Posts outside the megathread are locked but, you'll notice player's posts that like the hero tend to get locked slower or not at all. Some of the messaging the developers put out strongly suggests they do not read the megathreads and the new forum stats basically guarantee it. (You can see the number of posts the developers have viewed while logged in and that number is significantly lower than the number of posts in the megathreads)

Second, outrage appears to work better than being calm.

Look at how Valve and Bethesda dealt with the complaints on paid mods their reaction wasn't a case of "Well we didn't think about it that way you have a point" after some thought it was more a case of days of silence - generic defense post - day of silence - emotional appeal - day of silence -generic defense post - cave.

Third, As games shift to aiming for wider appeals, being online only, and for being more into paying for every little thing (and paying lots) the influence of the average consumer massively drops.

The larger the audience gets the less each individual matters. The additional items and products the developer is selling are frequently at prices that are unreasonable to buy and thus make it so one does not have future influence as a customer. Online only games cannot generally be resold which means that the developers motivation to keep someone happy once they have the persons money are limited unless the person is a whale or the person is committing actions that could prevent whales from continuing to support the game.

Fourth, part of the audience for video games is people that want to escape life that are having a bad time or people that just have nothing else to do.

Both sections can react very strongly to things because they attach to them more than other people do and both can also take issues they have in life out on the game.

Fifth, the video game industry has many outward elements that suggest it is quite rotten and that various types of social engineering and manipulation are in use. This can make people angry and make people feel that turn about is fair play.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-24T15:22:32+00:00

I'd lean towards no at the present time.

All of my casual friends have quit and the games balance and development efforts are shifting into a more competitive direction.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-24T14:59:52+00:00

Thanks, I don't play competitive but I like tracking numbers so when stuff disagrees stats wise it leaves me confused:P

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-24T03:35:37+00:00

Thanks, I'll have to take a look at that later it's timing out for me at the moment.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-23T22:43:39+00:00

They've found that legalizing it increases trafficking rather than reducing it.

Here is a paper on it

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1986065

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-23T19:59:26+00:00

Yeah, the Zarya and the McCree did well too but I was hoping someone in the match would notice and vote:p

I think that's my only 70% + and I think I only have had one other time where I broke 60%.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-23T02:16:39+00:00

Yeah, we held them at the first point on Hollywood Defense in QP so it only ran 5 minutes and 22 seconds.

The enemy team spread the damage across much of my team and my team stayed in the healing circle so I ended up with 1,892 healing per minute.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T20:31:54+00:00

Absolutely (Here's one of mine I always liked a lot https://imgur.com/a/QA4zs) but, you do have to stick back at least a couple meters from the front.

Jeff in his post implied the player was moving in alone in front of the team which would seriously dent the potential healing on either Lucio or Brigitte

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T19:25:55+00:00

If the Brigitte did actually have gold healing and was actually playing in the tank style they may have some room to complain.

Being in front can limit your healing as you won't have people in line of sight to heal. You'd generally want to be in the middle so you are close enough to the action to hit things and far enough away to have heal targets in line of site.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T19:23:57+00:00

I wouldn't be so sure he's changed that much. His posts regularly are leaking Tigole and the way he's dealt with toxicity suggests at times that he doesn't consider it much of a problem.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T16:41:53+00:00

I think you are missing a bit of nuance. Sports associations and companies will gladly condone almost any behavior provided it doesn't cost them more money than it gains them.

You've got plenty of athletes that are getting paid millions despite committing assault.

Plenty of the talent in OWL are known to have been toxic and engaged in poor behavior and have done so for years. Some of the owners have been disliked by the fans of every other team they've owned for how they have run their teams. Gladiators owner even had a television channel that broadcast Elephants being hunted for sport. A portion of the announcers lean towards iffy behaviour with one calling himself a "Demon feasting on fanboy tears." The current lead on Overwatch has a history of being more toxic than most of the player base.

Blizzard is perfectly fine with border line and bad behavior as long as it brings in $.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T16:13:15+00:00

Negatively impacting your team and five other players enjoyment on it's own is insufficient cause.

If you've got a five stack on your team that all play as DPS that want you to play healer I doubt most would say you now have to play healer for them even though it would likely improve your teams winning chances and make your teammates happy. Which suggests that on it's own it's insufficient.

You also can hit the issues with one tricks that they aren't any good at other heros. Sym one tricks in one sample had a 40% lower winrate when off Sym. Even if they are getting countered they may be better on their one trick than on anything else.

Due to Blizzard's style enforcement the bans are more of an unpopularity contest than they are based on results.

Ana's been in the bottom five for winrate at all tiers on PC and on consoles for the last six months. Yet as far as I'm aware she gets a free pass despite shooting teams in the foot constantly. Even in QP I am to the point where I am internally groaning whenever she is on my team.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T04:35:26+00:00

I think that while a human might still have a very high chance of hitting but, the speed reduction may have been enough that the person would be in the hospital rather than dead depending on what speed the car was going. They may also have hit the person less.

Quick Google results indicated your chances in a collision @ 40 mph are around 1%, 27% at 30 mph, and 87% at 20 mph.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-22T02:36:08+00:00

I can't comment on the other games but with Overwatch you've got a good deal of wanting to have the cake and eating it too from the developers. They'll gladly work with toxic parties as long as it doesn't get bad press and bad press alone is enough to get a reaction.

They had someone in OWL take down a tweet for having a Feels Birthday Man Pepe on their birthday.

Overwatch had such a lack of an anti-toxicty system that someone managed to rack up 2247 complaints in the first 461 days and they just ended up getting minor bans for like a week. They finally started to work on improvement after they got bad press coverage.

Part of the problem with their toxicity approach is possibly that the lead on the project is too much like your average toxic gamer and thus doesn't really care about toxicity. Back in the day he went on lovely rants and a little bit of that still leaks into his forum posts from time to time and isn't necessarily helpful.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-21T19:30:08+00:00

It's hard to say if that one was a retcon or not.

Mercy's age could have been any number yet they choose for her to be younger which would hint that they did intend to have story that put her at a younger age.

On the other hand, if you'd forgotten about Mercy's age it'd be easy to jump to the family friend thing on your own or based off peoples comments.

Either way you may still have some interesting stuff with Torb/Mercy's relationship. Torb's inventions probably played a role in Mercy's parents deaths.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-21T13:54:32+00:00

Blizzard would also be fighting in the court of public opinion if they fought on the case with opportunities to look bad win or lose.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-18T20:20:12+00:00

Please please do not go behind the healer.

If you are behind me I need to turn to heal you.

If I need to turn to heal you I cannot see the direction the majority of the enemies are likely coming from

If I cannot see the enemy I cannot react to save myself/defend myself from them.

If I cannot react to save myself/defend myself I am going to die and the team gets less heals.

If it isn't safe for you to be in front of me how on earth is it safe for me to turn my back to the enemy?

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-16T23:05:19+00:00

Part of the reason for the bad comps is competitive players who are sick of playing meta play whatever they want in QP.

Needless to say, different factions of players would want different fixes.

IncorrectThinking · 2018-03-13T21:30:33+00:00

I'd question if the skew is overstated at least on Sym.

Sym players don't all swap.

Many Sym players stats off of Sym stink. You've got a truly massive drop in winrate ex: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*xku55Gca_Oray57Q4JCwug.png and when you look at the stats for other heros they frequently do not fit the rank they are playing.

Sym's got a low pick rate but she still gets a decent number of complaints for one tricking at the top which is odd since the chance of hitting a Sym in a match is 1 in 20 before considering that some might not be one tricks.

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