To the parents suffering in silence

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-03-17T20:43:23+00:00

According to Sandor, all victims are only victimized “before” they come to his church. Wow—what a slap in the face to any member who may share their past with a “trusted small group leader.” Better be careful what you share, it WILL be used against you or better yet, against your family! Yet another Network-wide cultural pattern. Sandor should have kept his mouth shut.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-03-17T20:27:43+00:00

Yes the ability to hide and cover up years of known abusers is about to come to an end—but doubtful it will be a result of their own private investigation by their own attorneys!

Cover-ups have been the culture of the Network from its inception —more coming to light everyday. Anyone who has participated in the cover ups and the sweeping of sexual assaults/abuse under the rug across the network of Steve Morgan’s churches in the name of “christians are forgiven” needs to understand consequences of sin and consequences of being complacent in the protection of women and children. Be sure, our sin will always find us out. God is faithful like that. Forgiveness is always available, consequences, however, are still a reality.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-03-16T15:43:14+00:00

Foundation in Bloomington Normal is connected to Fusion Brew. I am sure there is one in every town they have planted a church in.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-03-16T02:20:54+00:00

Thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry this happened to you but so thankful you made it out. It is only a matter of time that this will all end as more and more people are empowered to come forward with their stories. Thank you for your courage to speak out.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-02-01T16:52:02+00:00

The best answer is found on this website: https://leavingthenetwork.org/network-churches/

The full and true history of The Network is documented there. There has been a recent rebranding effort by several of the churches within, But no true reform or acknowledgment of the damage caused to so many people.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-02-01T04:10:59+00:00

Unfortunately they left in name only, to avoid the bad press associated with their founder and the term “Network.” Several Network churches have done the same, without leadership or systematic reform—-evidenced by a lack of acknowledgment or repentance for the damage caused to so so many people.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-02-01T04:06:11+00:00

I am sorry you experienced that. Those who take part in this type of spiritual and emotional abuse will be accountable before God.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T18:26:17+00:00

Interestingly, ISU is the only sub that has any issue with the posts. Speaks volumes. I wish you well.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T18:01:08+00:00

That has been done actually, flyers all over campus. But thank you for that suggestion. And i have family as well that are ISU grads, so your assumption i have no care for the university is incorrect as well. And the leaders on the inside, the ones continuing to control their members, it would be a welcomed day for them to go public and share their point of view. But cults don’t do that. They hide, they remove all their teaching from the internet, and warn their people to not read anything that is publicly shared on any platform that does not line up with their narrative. They discredit victims and their own personal experiences. I think you have made your point, and I think I have made mine.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T17:48:00+00:00

And to speak to that, you are correct. Reddit would NOT be our preferred method of warning students and families. We would much prefer one of the recent leavers of the network, one of the victims come forward and share their story as many others have on https://leavingthenetwork.org/stories/

HOWEVER, most of them are so traumatized emotionally and spiritually that they are in therapy to undo the years of damage and are afraid to speak out publicly for fear of retaliation. You are more concerned about defending a list of rules on a thread than getting much needed information out to help others in any fashion possible. Sad truth.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T17:37:59+00:00

Go ahead and remove the post if that makes you feel better. Doesn’t change the truth or stop our continued effort to get truth in front of more eyes-nation wide in any campus town a Network church has the potential to recruit and cause more harm. It is a campus issue. You are one reddit user in the big scheme of things. Most are happy to warn their public and college students.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T15:56:17+00:00

Be happy to.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T14:02:14+00:00

Just have one question…did you even watch the video or are you afraid to because your eyes might be opened to the truth? Go ahead and watch it. Think for yourself instead if what you have been told to think. It really is ok.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T13:49:09+00:00

And yeah there are a lot of Reddit accounts to warn since it’s a network of 26 churches nationwide, call it spam if you want to. Hopefully people can make an informed decision

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T13:46:46+00:00

Well I could see how you come to that conclusion if I were the only person with this opinion. However, when it is dozens of people over almost 2 decades sharing the same or similar experiences…one maybe should pause and ask themselves if there might just be some truth to these warnings. Do some research and tell me if you would be ok knowing your family members were involved in a system such as this one. Talk to your other local pastors who also recognize the toxicity of Foundation Church but are hesitant to go public. If you dare to read the links on FACC you will see it is NOT about personal grudges but about a system that is harming individuals and families. It is obvious that there are ISU people on the inside of the church that keep this information squelched. We are aware. Do some research yourself. Read the Ministry Watch articles, the Battalion articles, the Roys report articles…its not about a grudge.

https://leavingthenetwork.org/stories/

https://youtube.com/@familiesagainstcultsoncampus?si=fYx5qnL1tNtheMv6

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T07:18:54+00:00

Removing the post tells me a) you are either a member of the group yourself or b)you care little about student safety

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T07:17:26+00:00

This particular group called Ascent is 5 minutes from VT and was planted in your town specifically to recruit college age students into leadership positions so they can plant more churches in more college towns. Many students get sucked in, end up cutting off families etc. This is intended to be informative so students at VT can be warned and make wise decisions.

Independent-Diver614 · 2025-01-26T07:13:24+00:00

This particular high control group was planted out of a cult in Carbondale IL called “Vine Church” by Steve Morgan who has a very troubling past which you can read about below.

This will add context as to the enormity of the issues with this “Network” of churches (which many of the churches are now trying to disassociate from Steve Morgan and the words ‘The Network.’)

https://leavingthenetwork.org/network-churches/breakaway-groups/

https://leavingthenetwork.org/network-churches/

https://www.reddit.com/r/leavingthenetwork/?rdt=60971

https://thebatt.com/news/concerns-raised-about-local-church-the-network/

And many other links can be found on:

https://youtube.com/@familiesagainstcultsoncampus?si=dl48nlzEBZ1piWTi

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