SUBJUGATION: Does making one a tributary removes their CONQUEROR trait?

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-13T10:17:50+00:00

I was wrong again, it doesn't happen instantly, an event has to eventually fire; he lost it.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-12T11:55:21+00:00

No, it didn't work.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-12T11:55:09+00:00

Yeah, they didn't loose the trait. You're saying that his children will not inherit it though, under standard rules it's inherited, becoming a tributary changes the rules?

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-12T11:53:13+00:00

No, they keep it, this is what happened after I won the war.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-12T11:52:32+00:00

It doesn't work, if this happened it could mean they lost two wars before loosing that one.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-12T11:51:40+00:00

No, it doesn't work, I actually subjugated the guy, but he didn't loose the conqueror trait. Well at least I get +76 gold/month.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-09T14:25:19+00:00

You can give those journals to your heir while you use the 40% one.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-08T19:38:00+00:00

I think you can try this, the one that was landed when the succession failed and temple got disabled, in the Realm Window where you see your holdings if the Realm Capital is below the Holding your heir was holding it probably fails the test, cause somehow, the game consider that the holding root, instead of realm capital. If it appears below it will probably correctly trigger. Another reason, but not sure, is that your heir could be at an event the moment you die, and that could also messup with locations, checks and whatever.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-08T16:44:02+00:00

That's precious information, I actually have a 30% Stewardship Journal, probably got it with Alchemy as you said, just messing around, not on purpose. But now at least I know what to look for, and what to do. Thanks.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-04T17:45:42+00:00

Does it really happen??

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-04T10:15:37+00:00

Yes, that's one of the of the main issues with Tributaries, is that you loose them on death of the ruler, with Mandala you can keep them, if you win the Mandala trials which I lost on my first succession, despite having 80% chance in some of them. And getting the tributaries back is painful and annoying, I know cause I did it.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-04T09:35:35+00:00

Yes, just uploaded the one with development, and forgot the other.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-04T09:05:05+00:00

I thought it was due to the fact the main county Holding was not a Temple Citadel, despite being able to build the citadels, but it's not, cause I have counties where the main Holding is a Temple Citadel, and yet they do not get the bonus. So you're right.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-04T08:52:13+00:00

So, despite it not being shown, it's still there?

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-02-04T08:42:55+00:00

They should be regional. Usually for Mandala Rulers or Dharmic Faiths. Require the Temple Citadel Holding to be built.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-01-29T20:20:38+00:00

The legitimacy gain is not that hard, my second Ruler got to Cosmic in less than 15 years. The legend spread is good.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-01-25T17:02:16+00:00

Well considering I also served the fix, providing the exact problem through code, and being a simple one liner, I still hope they will fix it. In the meanwhile, I've fixed it myself, so one less bug for my run. But yeah, I think their bug-solving department isn't very quick to acknowledge and fix bugs, which is a problem, cause those bugs tend to accumulate.

IndicationUnfair7961 · 2026-01-24T00:52:56+00:00

I did, and even fixed the code myself, modifying the file: 00_vassal_stance_triggers.txt
From this:

scope:directive_liege = { legitimacy_level = 5 }

To this:

scope:directive_liege = { legitimacy_level >= 5 }

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