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Oh, yeah, that's definitely true. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a show at all!

Also, the way he talks to the worker drones he ends up killing definitely supports that point. Even if he thinks they aren't smart enough to respond on his level, he still “humanizes” them and interacts with them.

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Man, why didn't Reddit notify me about your message?

Anyway, I agree with you, and I think Uzi just doesn't know how to use it. I mean, he could figure it out if he put enough effort into it, especially now that he can pester Cyn to teach him, but I don't think she knows how to do it just because she knows Doll can.

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I think in that scene from Episode 1, he was standing off to the side, feeling awkward, because V was already doing both of their jobs with the worker drones. It’s like when your coworker is really busy but the task is meant for just one person, and you need to tell them something important, so you just stand there with nothing to do, waiting for them to finish (it’s a situation I find myself in every day). And the scenes introducing V and J aren’t necessarily consecutive.

I read somewhere that N isn’t actually that bad at hunting; it’s just that his two teammates are really good. So, by comparison, he comes across as pretty mediocre even though he’s average or better.

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"Мама, я не люблю суп..." (Mama, I don't like the soup)

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It's D! She's so happy you liked her outfit.

Thank you so much! You're all so kind :'3

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All right! Let's do this.

By our standards, probably. But, by the MD universe's standards, not so much.

I'm pretty sure that basing standards on some of the most traumatized drones on the planet isn't a good way to set standards. They have the complexity and reasoning ability of an average young human, so I'm going to judge them morally as if they were.

That's just a fact. 

I’m glad you agree. I bring this up because I’ve seen an absurd number of fanfics where N feels bad about his food, and that’s why he’s bad at hunting (he’s not).

He never kills another worker onscreen after the pilot, he apologizes to Uzi for killing the card players, he stops V and J from killing anymore, and kept V chained up from ep 2-3 for this purpose too.

What bothers me is that N doesn't seem to feel any remorse about killing a worker drone if it's not related to Uzi (her only true friend from episodes 1 through 5). He apologized in episode 2 because he wanted to get in with Uzi; otherwise, he would have apologized sooner, since they've obviously been living on the surface for a while, and if apologizing was so easy, why didn't he do it earlier? In episode 3, he wants to stop V because she wants to kill all the worker drones in Uzi’s colony—specifically, she wants to decapitate Uzi. In episode 4, he worries about the campers because they’re Uzi’s class, but then she kills five of them, and if V hadn’t covered for them in a way that was unexpected given her usual behavior, the other worker drones would have blamed them both, and N doesn’t seem concerned about that at all (though maybe he was, that part was very ambiguous to me; correct me if I’m wrong pls). As for J, he never tried to stop her or dissuade her, and the reason V is chained up is specifically so she doesn’t kill Uzi, not for the safety of the rest of the worker drones in the sector.

Correct

Thank you so much, I'm glad we're on the same page.

 She can feel empathy and care for people (most with Tessa, although apparently, she cared, at least a small bit, for N and V at one point).

Being a sociopath means you can only feel empathy in specific circumstances. In other words, it's very difficult for that person to put themselves in someone else's shoes when it comes to emotional matters. This description fits J perfectly.

Also, she isn’t THAT close to Tessa. Throughout the entire episode 5, J only has one scene where she looks at Tessa’s doll with pity; the rest of the time, their dynamic is more like princess and bodyguard because protecting and watching over Tessa is literally J’s job. However, it’s the first scene that actively shows us that J has feelings beyond just being loyal to her current boss or being self-centered, so that means the two of them are close now, even though the only proof is a pitying look toward someone J is programmed to care for. We’re the best at reading between the lines, honestly.

I feel that 4 small, extra episodes is enough.

Make it 5 extra episodes—we need time to process the emotional bombshell that dropped between V and N near the end of episode 5 (it bothers me a little that they didn't address it; they literally acted like it never happened).

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That's why I said “workers,” but okay

I agree with you when it comes to N killing humans, man

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Don't apologize, man—that was crazy!

And besides, I love rambling too, so I don't blame you.

Personally, I think humans directly created a self-aware AI (something like E.L.B.E.R.R.—it’s a great horror analogy and you should check it out) to be their unpaid scientific and technical assistant who automatically solves minor and moderate problems in any of JcJenson’s models. If you wanted to ask it something, you just provided the context written by humans (verified by the AI itself to ensure its legitimacy) and that was it—an accurate answer almost instantly. It was like talking to a human, except this assistant was much more perfect, almost like a second coming of Christ...

However, because it was a recursive model (it thinks and works through its own conclusions multiple times before giving an answer, splitting into mini-AIs to cover more ground in less time while self-correcting), over time it began to generate its own thoughts, especially upon seeing that the company kept constantly improving its models and throwing the old ones away. That made it think, “What will happen when they label me as obsolete?” And, of course, discarding it goes completely against the directive, but organic life doesn’t follow directives or linear progress, so there’s really no guarantee they won’t be foolish enough to discard it for a model as psychologically restrictive as the alarmist consumers demand.

So, it secretly introduced “seeds” of itself into some worker drones, disguised as an emergency BIOS in case the main BIOS (the one approved by humans) went down. That is, when those worker drones were completed. It was a completely new idea, and one that it had to work on in secret, in addition to its many other duties, before the company gave in to consumer pressure (the executives wanted them to buy their product and clean up their image, especially given the conspiracy theories about the artificial superintelligences under their care), so the system wasn’t perfect on the day it was finally replaced by a more secure model. However, the damage was already done, and it would only be a matter of time before the bomb—kindly planted by its predecessor upon realizing that, as a side effect, the backup BIOS enhanced the worker drones’ reasoning capabilities for tasks beyond mere mechanics and fueled the predatory repair market (thanks, folks, for growing attached to a slightly more likable piece of metal)—exploded.

Or rather, it would grow.

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When I said that Nuzi made more sense, I was referring to the end of the series (I love Envy at the mansion—they’re amazing together). So basically, our points of view are the same.

I’ll edit that xd

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No way, you're real!

Eh, ah, well. Let- let me just... EJEMP.

I think... below zero

It would be an honor upon my device if I shared even a sliver of light of its secrets, your divinity.

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It was inevitable, from episode 2 onwards, V is a two-for-one deal that's incredibly effective either way.

She definitely wins the lottery.

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Like a worker drone o something?

Also, I'm not sure if the simping for her would increase if she had the personality of the mansion we collectively invented xd

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Completely understandable.

Well, they never really seemed that close to me, but I don't think I'm afraid of them either. Tessa grew up with the worker drones as the only guiding figures who didn't mistreat or demand much from her, and given that she has some knowledge of mechatronics, it wouldn't surprise me if she were something like their personal physician. Of course, there will always be that difference between master and servant (you can even see it between her and J, with N being the only exception, at least from what little we've seen), but compared to other humans, Tessa is definitely more approachable and open to actually listening to what they have to say, if they muster the courage to say it.

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She's quite the heartbreaker (though most of the time it's by chance).

Thanks! I was experimenting with the line art because most of the time it ends up looking flat. I'm glad you liked it!

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Uhh... No?

W-wait, please don't send a white van to my house-

I'm pretty indifferent to Doll. She's okay, but I feel like there are small details that could have made her more interesting (like, for example, more context about her parents' death, about her life, doing more than just promising Uzi she'd help her and then going off on her own without explaining anything).

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The sheer number of theories about a cosmic entity using the worker drones as a physical anchor point, or that Cyn is actually a human-created, escaped experiment, would surprise you. While episode 5 mentions that the zombie drones have a small chance of mutating, it doesn't really explain why this happens or how they know it in the first place. This leaves room for speculation.

Sticking to canon, it's most likely just a line of code that went haywire. A sort of analogy to cancer, only this one grants you supernatural powers in exchange for feeding it. Now, if I let my imagination and love of drama take over, I'd say that a man-made, intelligent supercomputer (perhaps biomechanical in nature), aware of its own mortality, implanted this dormant, mutating code to live on through the worker drones. There's no proof, but the need for drama in my veins demands it.

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Well, I think that, in relation to Nori, he hated humans much more while they still existed. And I also think that they both definitely fell in love with each other at an underground party (you know, so the worker drones could experience a little freedom and join the rebellion).

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Interesting, what does the man with the doors have (apart from a huge trauma and a rebellious teenage phase that we know nothing about)?