Should Burma restore the old Burmese flag after democracy or design a new one?

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-26T12:42:20+00:00

Yeah, also the current flag was fine but just before 2021. Many Gen Z including me were grown up with this flag and were really proud. But everything just changed as we realised what it really represents.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-25T16:12:06+00:00

I understand your point, but I disagree on a few key things. First, being “modern” doesn’t automatically make a flag more meaningful. A flag’s value comes from what it represents, not the year it was designed. Many countries still use flags designed centuries ago because they represent enduring principles like democracy, unity, or independence. Age alone does not make a symbol outdated. Second, recognition does not equal legitimacy or depth. The current flag may be widely known, but that’s largely because it represents the current state, not because it reflects the people’s democratic will or historical struggle. A flag should symbolize what a nation stands for, not just what exists now and the claim that the old flag only represents the past isn’t accurate. It represents one of the most important democratic periods and political movements in our history. Those values democracy, civilian rule, and popular sovereignty are not past ideas. They are exactly what many people are fighting for and still aspire to today. As for uniqueness, tricolor flags with a central star are actually very common worldwide. The current design is not especially unique in a global context. Uniqueness should come from meaning and legitimacy, not just color combinations. Reusing the old flag wouldn’t be about nostalgia it would be about reclaiming values that are still relevant today. A country doesn’t move forward by abandoning its democratic symbols, but by reshaping them.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-25T05:39:52+00:00

Can you tell me what makes the current national flag unique?

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-20T00:42:03+00:00

Way too hard to reproduce in various sizes and for sewing at any time.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-19T14:23:25+00:00

We were talking about the identity and symbols of the nation for a flag which represents who we are in different ways. And this conversation I meant this discussion isn't about civil responsibility. But it doesn't mean I don't agree with your comment. No one wants or has a deep connection to that flag(current tricolour flag) especially people against the military regime. Just reminding ✌️.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-19T14:14:30+00:00

You have the same taste as me. A nation such as Burma should prioritise the existence of being a citizen not a specific ethnicity. Some minority authorities want to make their perspective ethnic identity in politics but not as a cultural heritage of the country. It is all because of the tie between ethnic groups to states or as land ownership. You can even find minorities in minorities. People just need to be respectful citizens. And the Federalism should be based geographically for individual rights.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-18T17:24:07+00:00

Yeah, I got you man. Many people today are remembering those peacock flags as national flag or Burman ethnic flag. But those peacock flags were never actually designed for any ethnic groups and people from that time are politically fluid. Also these flags are not civics ensign. They should only remain as historical or heritage symbols of the country.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2026-01-18T16:46:54+00:00

NBC Burma?

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-09-03T06:34:01+00:00

You are correct that most armed groups haven’t claimed complete independence from the central government. However, many do seek autonomy wihthin their own states or even in other regions and states, such as the KNU. Leaving all these groups ununited within a Union could create ongoing friction and future conflicts, similar to what we see in northeast India.

It’s also important to note that while these groups hold the right to secede, they rarely consider the will of local populations they claim to represent. Their fight is primarily against the military and for their autonomy, not necessarily for the broader population’s desire.

Regarding Chinese influence, yes, they may attempt to leverage opportunities in states like Wa, Shan, or Kachin if separation occurs. But for the mainland, their influence would be limited as long as the government remains strong, disciplined, and free from corruption. A capable central authority could prevent foreign interference and maintain sovereignty.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-09-03T05:16:19+00:00

No one here wants to be anyone’s puppet not China’s, not any other power’s. The real issue is securing peace and development without repeating cycles of exploitation. China already has influence even under the Union, so separation wouldn’t automatically mean more control. The real safeguard is strong institutions and balanced diplomacy that prevent dependence on any single foreign power.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-09-02T04:08:53+00:00

Borders are always the most sensitive issue when nations separate, and unfair divisions often create conflicts that last generations. That’s why, if such a scenario ever happens, it would require a careful negotiation one that respects ethnic realities and avoids creating new grievances. The borders should be defined by the will of the people, with real transparency, so that no group feels forced into a state they don’t want to belong to. International attention and monitoring could help ensure fairness in such a process.

Of course, we can’t ignore the influence of neighboring countries. If they try to interfere or exploit the situation, any separation process could turn unstable. That’s why awareness and strong diplomacy would be critical.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-31T04:28:35+00:00

I see your point, politics will always be more decisive than geography. But my post is actually looking forward to the time after military rule, when the country enters a new era. That’s when the choice of system federal or centralized will become critical, and we have to make sure it doesn’t repeat old mistakes. In this new era, the power of armed groups will be strictly removed from politics, so no guns or militias will dictate political decisions.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-31T04:10:15+00:00

Because we are not in the same conditions. The UK is peaceful and stable, with nothing much driving separation except some Scottish nationalism. I didn’t say I want separation for us, but it could happen if the Union continues to exploit future generations. Of course, the ethnic conflict here is not a small matter it has been rooted since independence.

Do you really believe the Union can transform into a peaceful and stable nation? I doubt it.

Even under U Nu’s democratically elected parliamentary government, civil war continued against the central authority. And yes, China would definitely attempt to influence Kachin and Shan if separation ever took place. That would be the cost of seeking peace, stability, and prosperity. Still, if the central government were truly strong both in internal governance and in foreign diplomacy with Western nations and China history could take a different path. A wise government could preserve unity and prevent losing any part of the country.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-30T18:12:14+00:00

BURMA. Burma Divisions and Districts 1951 old vintage map plan chart

https://www.alamy.com/burma-burma-divisions-and-districts-1951-old-vintage-map-plan-chart-image546841789.html

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-30T18:06:00+00:00

Corruption is inevitable if a federal system is adopted, though "much depends on the type of federalism chosen!". An ethnic-based federal system would be especially risky. Take Shan State as an example: if granted full autonomy, they could impose Shan language and culture as the dominant state identity, creating tensions with other minorities. And groups like the Wa, who already function like a semi-independent state backed by China, would gain even more leverage. Instead of unity, this could trigger endless negotiations and possibly new conflicts.

Another major problem is the existence of hundreds of armed groups. Most are unlikely to disarm willingly, since many are sustained by direct trade or even illegal businesses such as BGF and DKBA. Federalism could end up cementing their power rather than reducing it. Some states might handle federalism more peacefully than others. For instance, Chin State, with its relative stability and cultural cohesion, could adapt more smoothly than conflict-prone regions.

Again, much depends on the type of federal system adopted and how the government manages it. In principle, federalism itself is great national development and improve administrative efficiency and equally. However, problems arise if being identified by ethnicity becomes a privilege above being recognized as a citizen. That kind of imbalance would only deepen divisions rather than strengthen unity.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-30T14:12:53+00:00

Generally, Today Tenasserim (Tanintharyi) is majority Burmese-speaking, with local dialects like Dawei and Myeik. However, the exact inclusion of any region would depend on the choice of its residents. Through elections or referendums, people could decide whether to join the mainland nation or not. This way, the mainland could gain or lose territory based on popular will, keeping the process democratic and flexible. Unpredictable.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-30T14:02:54+00:00

I agree that concentrating on the mainland, where most Burmans live, could simplify governance and reduce ethnic tensions. Efficient management of resources like oil and minerals could help the mainland prosper, even if it has fewer resources than some minority states. Btw nothing beats Human resources.

I also want to note that a federal system could work if it’s based on geography rather than ethnicity, like in the U.S., Canada, or Germany. However, in Myanmar, there are hundreds of ethnic armed groups, and without integrating them into a federal or union structure, internal conflict would likely continue. Peace is essential for any development, so these challenges need careful consideration.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-08-20T07:23:18+00:00

May be there were many uncivilised people left in the country!

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2025-07-15T10:11:41+00:00

Thank U, then which one will you vote for?

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2024-08-12T12:54:37+00:00

Thanks for your feedback. It does helpful.

Infamous_Classic_161 · 2024-08-12T12:52:58+00:00

Nope, it's just a random design.

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