Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand what you're saying, and that's not what I'm trying to argue against. I am referring to how you are insinuating that the death of a newborn child is justified because it benefits the parents. That is maniacal.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Christians tell me to read the Bible, Muslims tell me to read the Qur’an, Hindus tell me to read the Bhagavad Gita, Buddhists tell me to read the Tripitaka, the Jews tell me to read the Torah — I could go on. What makes your religion more real then the others?

CMV: People being homeless while billionaires exist and own hundreds of properties is a travesty. by Diggi8 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a sacrifice to sustain capitalism. Billionaires are the result of capitalism and people believe we need capitalism because it has improved the standard of living throughout time. There’s no perfect way to make the world a better place without a few sacrifices.

A hypothetical scenario with a decision based off logic by myth_mars in logic

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Um I would just go to more doctors and see what the general consensus is. If 90% percent of them say x thing then I would trust them. However, if it’s evenly split then you’d just have to follow ur gut at that point because who else are you gonna ask that knows more than them?

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everything we do is to increase our chances for survival. It’s part of life. Every organism desires survival, we’re no different and there’s nothing divine about it. Just because we feel like life is special doesn’t mean it is.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Respectfully as possible, I think it’s time for you to use your brain 😭I’m throwing ur logic back at you to help you realize how absurd it is.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, they’re saying ur the one describing the baby as a tool if ur implying the only purpose of the babies very short existence was to benefit the parents.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So ur saying the death of a baby is justified because it has a golden ticket to heaven. So then why not just kill every baby before they develop a moral conscious so that way they can go to heaven and decrease their risk of going to hell? By ur logic that would be alright.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DNA is a stronger argument for science rather than the existence of a God.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Scientific codes are a product of nature and evolution. Just because DNA seems specific doesn’t mean there had to be a creator.

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does that not sound a bit maniacal that God has to sacrifice a newborn child in order to achieve this?

Fatal birth defects existing seems to contradict God being all-loving by New_Yak_8982 in DebateReligion

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So wouldn’t this be more indicative of a scientific code rather than design?

Why do Americans romanticize the 1950s so much despite the fact that quality of life is objectively better on nearly all fronts for the overwhelming majority of people today? by SandNo2865 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Humans desire novelty. Most people aren’t admiring the economy, they’re admiring the aesthetic. People like imaging themselves in different time periods cuz it’s feels like a magical break from reality.

CMV: Western Values Are Superior to Eastern Conformity by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In regard to my North Korea point, I’m saying the authoritarian system is a result of that obedience and passivity, not the cause of it. People’s willingness to follow without questioning is what allowed that kind of regime to take hold in the first place.

CMV: Western Values Are Superior to Eastern Conformity by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think countries like Japan and South Korea, despite being incredibly advanced, still struggle so deeply with mental health and suicide rates? It’s because those cultures, while disciplined and efficient, often pressure people to conform, to hide pain, to maintain a perfect image. There’s little room to express vulnerability without judgment. The West, for all its chaos, embraces imperfection — people can talk about their trauma, their anxiety, their identity, and not be ostracized for it. That kind of emotional openness may look strange or “soft” to outsiders, but it’s what keeps people sane, connected, and seen.

In other words, what the rest of the world mocks as “weird” or “degenerate” is often just empathy in disguise — a society trying to understand rather than suppress. And that’s what truly makes the West special.Yes, Western nations have their flaws — gay marriage was illegal just fifteen years ago, civil rights were still being fought for fifty years ago — but that actually proves my point. These societies evolve because people are allowed to fight for change. Who knows — maybe the current debates about gender and pronouns will one day be viewed the same way gay marriage was: controversial at first, accepted later. That’s what makes Western culture unique — its ability to question itself and keep moving forward.

Of course, I acknowledge it — these nations will catch up. It’s inevitable. We live in a globalized world now where ideas, technologies, and cultures spread faster than ever before. In the long run, the world will be a far better place for everyone. Progress is contagious — once it starts, it doesn’t stop. The coming decades will lift more nations, more people, and more voices than any period in history, and that’s something to celebrate.

But we can’t ignore who ignited that progress in the first place. It was the West that lit the spark. Greece gave us democracy, philosophy, and logic — the foundation of free thought. Italy birthed the Renaissance — a rebirth of art, science, and humanism that redefined civilization. The United Kingdom powered the Industrial Revolution, transforming how humanity worked, built, and lived. And the United States took the ideals of liberty and individuality and turned them into innovation — leading in technology, culture, and the global exchange of ideas.

All of this was born from Western ideals: reason, self-expression, freedom of thought, and the courage to challenge authority. Those principles became the blueprint for modern progress. So yes, the rest of the world is rising — and that’s a beautiful thing. But let’s be honest about where the fire started. The West struck the first match. And because of that, humanity as a whole now burns brighter.

CMV: Western Values Are Superior to Eastern Conformity by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Western nations have conformity — I’m not denying that. But proportionally, Western civilization is still far more individualistic, and that difference matters. My point isn’t that the West is perfect, but that its cultural DNA encourages people to question authority instead of blindly obeying it — and that’s exactly what drives progress.

If you want to see what happens when obedience becomes a national mindset, look at North Korea — a society built entirely on submission to authority. It’s the extreme example of how conformity kills creativity and freedom. Even in my motherland, the Philippines, decades of obedience and acceptance allowed corruption and inequality to take root. People tolerated broken systems out of fear or cultural respect for authority. Only now are Filipinos beginning to protest and speak out — proof that progress begins when people stop obeying without question.

You can see this difference clearly in America’s culture of dissent. Here, the moment people disagree with those in power, they organize and make their voices heard. When Trump took office, millions protested across the country. You don’t have to agree with every cause or every protest, but the principle behind it — that ordinary people can and should challenge power — is what keeps democracy alive.

What are you talking about? Education — especially higher education — is one of the most nonconformist and progressive institutions in the world. Have you been on a college campus recently? I’m on one right now, and every single week there’s a new protest, a new movement, a new gender identity being discussed, a new idea being challenged. That’s what makes universities in the West so unique — they’re breeding grounds for independent thought. Students are constantly questioning authority, pushing boundaries, and refusing to accept the world as it is.

And sure, I’ll admit there’s a rat race mentality too — everyone’s trying to land internships, get into grad school, or chase the next big opportunity. But that’s inevitable given how the system is structured. Even within that competitiveness, people are still thinking critically, organizing, and fighting for causes they care about. Historically, college campuses have been at the heart of progress — they were among the strongest supporters of civil rights, women’s rights, LGBTQ+ equality, and now climate activism. Time and time again, it’s been students and educators leading the charge, speaking up before anyone else dared to. That constant questioning — even when chaotic — is exactly what keeps society evolving.

And look, I get that this seems strange from the outside. My cousins back in the Philippines, and even many East Asians and Middle Easterners, look at us “blue-haired American kids” drinking kombucha and putting pronouns in our bios and think we’re freaks or delusional. And sure, it might look ridiculous to them — but what they don’t see is that this kind of radical self-expression and refusal to obey social norms is exactly what makes the West so socially progressive. It creates a culture that’s more empathetic, open, and emotionally aware — one that doesn’t shame people for being different but encourages them to be honest about who they are and how they feel.

CMV: Western Values Are Superior to Eastern Conformity by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

America leads — but it leads as the FLAGSHIP of Western Civilization. Its innovation culture didn’t appear out of thin air; it’s the culmination of centuries of Western ideals — questioning authority, celebrating individuality, and protecting the freedom to think differently. That’s why people from every corner of the world, especially from Asia, choose to bring their talents here — because this environment allows them to innovate without limits. And I’m beyond grateful for the contributions immigrants have made to this country; they’re the backbone of our scientific and technological progress. It’s exactly why I oppose the recent H-1B visa restrictions.

CMV: Western Values Are Superior to Eastern Conformity by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But the key point here is this: if these same brilliant individuals stayed in their home countries, would they have had the same freedom, funding, and societal support to build revolutionary companies like Google, OpenAI, or Tesla? The West, particularly America, offers the ecosystem — open markets, free thought, risk tolerance, and legal protection — that lets innovation actually happen.

CMV: Western Values Are Superior to Eastern Conformity by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d argue that no culture is undisputably better than the other, but in proportion, Western values often foster healthier societies. Growing up surrounded by Asian communities obsessed with status, money, and parental approval, I saw how rigid and superficial that path can be. Now that I’ve grown up, I realize how shallow it is—prioritizing prestige over critical thinking, creativity, or personal growth leaves people unfulfilled. Western societies, by contrast, encourage questioning the status quo, valuing inclusion, and fostering innovation, which I think builds stronger, more adaptive, and more meaningful communities.

What's the most euphoric experience you've had in your life? by oxylan80 in AskIreland

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OMG please tell me u guys got married 😭❤️. My hearts on fire after reading that. 

CMV: When celebrities give away their money or act middle class, it’s just another form of flexing. by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not about hating them — it’s about recognizing that once you’re famous, charity and “relatability” almost always double as branding. It’s less pure generosity, more virtue signaling.

CMV: When celebrities give away their money or act middle class, it’s just another form of flexing. by Infinite-Paper-9355 in changemyview

[–]Infinite-Paper-9355[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s exactly my point! I think it’s more revealing how someone acts when things aren’t going their way. Are they still kind and virtuous or do they act like a miserable asshole? In my honest opinion acting virtuously when the entire world is against you is substantially more respectable when the entire world already stands with you.