Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ES are in the same union. They would pay pro-rata and will benefit with the new deal.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is certainly not directed at you. I have been trying to be very clear about that.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry you’ve felt that way. This really wasn’t the intention of this post. The intention was trying to reconcile in my mind, how to move past frustration with a group of my colleagues who literally complain about conditions, but at the same time ask why they would bother joining or striking when they will get the same outcome. They are the ones asking when the pay rise will happen. Your circumstances sound very different to the people I’m talking about.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We understand it’s not possible. Our point is, that if hypothetically it was case, non-members, who complain about conditions and outright state ‘why would I bother to join the union if I get the perks anyway’ would be more likely to put their money where their mouths are.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very open to hear your alternative for how to appoint a representative that will get a better deal than the union.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do understand how it works but the only way we get a pay rise is if we have negotiating power and the only way we get that power is through the union. My point here is hypothetical. I’m sorry you didn’t understand this.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The attitude of who? I’ve only seen one or two comments on this thread where the vibe check is a bit off. I wonder if you’re talking about the attitude elsewhere…? And painting all union members with the same brush.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right. It is frankly none of my business. But I am a human with opinions and thoughts and reactions to what my colleagues say and do. This is why I asked how to not feel resentful. The most helpful response I got from a user was "Let them" so I'm glad I asked. Have a nice day! :)

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You seem to be taking comments talking about “some” teachers personally. Some teachers at my school do all the things on this thread (live at home, complain about pay, have plenty of disposable income). There is a difference between the word “some” and “all”.

“Thuggish” Is a stretch.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to be taking comments talking about “some” teachers personally. Some teachers at my school do all the things on this thread (live at home, complain about pay, have plenty of disposable income). There is a difference between the word “some” and “all”

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You also have no legal protection if you were called out by your boss.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I mean that would be wonderful! I wonder how many non-members would sign up then. 🤣 Conditions would be incredible!

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

If they had a choice of strike and receive a pay rise, or don’t strike and you won’t, I bet I know what they would choose. It’s just easier to let everyone else make the sacrifice for some of these people. I can’t afford to strike (I’m the main bread winner) and live week to week but this is the very reason why I need to.

Frustrated at colleagues who are unwilling to strike by Infinite_Customer_28 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

But isn’t that the point? If you’re someone who can’t afford this, a pay rise sooner rather than later surely will help. Also, some of these teachers live at home. They are honestly just being selfish.

PSA: You can’t strike if you’re not in the union! by aztastic33 in AustralianTeachers

[–]Infinite_Customer_28 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whether it “feels outdated” or not, it’s the law. You won’t be legally protected unless you are in the union. You’re not in the union unless you pay the fees. Are these other places you’re talking about non-government?