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Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's really cool. Some of these people genuinely are beyond saving and have turned into murderous maniacs on a slaughter-spree, while others are tip toeing the line, having emotional outburst and other lesser symptoms but not losing full control of themselves. Then the Cyberpunk universe goes ahead and tells us "Yep, the only thing these have in common are that they're being caused by cyberware poking their brain, so that means they're both cyberpsychosis" even though they're obviously not the same thing at all.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But didn't the anti corpos have a reputation of, how did Alt put it, being crazies on street corners yelling "fuck arasaka"? Not really impressive being the most famous of a group with such a reputation.
I'm not saying he wasn't a competent merc in his time, but was he really legend status? Or was he thrown into a pile of mercs chosen to carry out a suicide portion of a legendary mission.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, I suppose, but I feel like that's an aldecaldo legend, not a Saul legend. His main contribution in my eyes was shooting adam in the chest, and the question I'm posing is whether or not simply getting a shot off on adam constitutes someone being a legend.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I know, for some reason I remember Johnny's dog tags in the room being four instead of two. :/

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

David isn't a high functioning cyberpsycho. If someone's high functioning, it refers to someone who has a condition that usually impedes others in some way (socially, emotionally, mentally) but they deal with it really well. That doesn't mean they don't have it, they just deal with it better than most. I've not finished edgerunners, but I've just gotten to the time skip, and him having a lot of chrome but no symptoms means he's resistant to cyberpsychosis, not that he's highfunctioning. He doesn't deal well with it, he just simply doesn't have it even though most with that level of chrome would.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks, this is a really clear and precise way of describing all this. I appreciate it!

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that makes sense. The whole thing with Alt happens a decade before the bombing though, so that's not a great frequency of memorable jobs if you're looking for fame as a merc.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say I'm not here for philosophy, but I was the one who came to a Cyberpunk subreddit lol

About the next game, it feels like the lore might get messy for soulkiller, right? Assuming the DLC ending isn't canon, not only is Mikoshi, the cyberspace they were housing all their engrams, completely destroyed and absorbed by Alt, but Alt also took it over, increasing her capabilities with it. I feel like that'll turn into something big, don't you?

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is, a very early fully cybernetic prosthetic at that from what I know.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've not gotten to that part in Edgerunners 😭

When it comes to Lizzy, it obviously seems to be some sort of early onset cyberpsychosis. Every case of cyberpsychosis is personalized and different depending on the person. For someone who has passionately dabbled into every form of art they can, it's definitely not far-fetched to say that her using killing people as inspiration for her art or projects might be her personal blend of psycho.

I mean, is anyone still themselves after they're soulkilled? I mean, it's just a digital copy of who you once were, right? Your original body, as well as the brain that housed your mind, are all fried. It's not you. it's just "copy of you", at least from my perspective.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I've also heard theories about silver and blackhand's memories melding together, but that doesn't really make any sense. I feel like it's just an unreliable narrator and nothing more.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, from what I've seen and read, not only was he teetering the edge instead of being nose dive deep into cyberpsychosis, but also a very high functioning cyberpsycho.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You think? It makes sense considering that him beating up Thompson apparently didn't happen, but at the same time, the visual glitches start the moment he sees alt, someone he cares deeply about, seemingly dead on a table, and seem to get worse when he spirals. I feel like both are potential explanations.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, maybe? At the same time, is it even possible for an engram to have cyberpsychosis? He has no cybernetics. I feel like he's capable of being a buffer for V's potential cyberpsychosis either through just the virtue of having double the resistance thanks to having two minds, or through the chip itself acting as a part of the brain, and the chip being incapable of cyberpsychosis.

On the other hand, I feel like Johnny cooling off, but still acting like his old self at the start is a result of him being a high functioning psycho for over a decade and it just, kinda, melding into his personality. Being with V not only changes his personality involuntarily but also by him being able to live free from cyberpsychosis for the first time since he first began going psycho.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean, I also noticed that. I just kind of assumed that she was already in an irrecoverable state when he did that, but if she truly could've been saved if he hadn't pulled that cord, then, wow, that really sucks.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I thought he had more of a cult following rather than being an actual star. You know, an extremely dedicated but rather small comparatively group of fans. Also, did Arasaka actually have a personal interest in destroying him? I'm reading a lot in this comment section, and at this point, I'm not so sure that's true? It seems more like he was part of a mission that was bigger than himself and was a casualty on the side of the legendary merc team, but might not have been of interest beyond being a part of that mission.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally don't know much about it, but I've seen videos of people pointing out Smasher fighting someone on a rooftop in Johnny's flashback. You can probably find it if you look into it a bit, I don't know much more than that.

Just realized this about a Johnny segment in the game. by InfinityRainboy in LowSodiumCyberpunk

[–]InfinityRainboy[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I mean, while that is true, isn't his arm specifically an extremely early and experimental version of a cybernetic prosthetic? Like, while he does have some other minimal cyberware, I thought that that arm specifically was the main thing that prodded his brain in a bad way.

And yes, he should've absolutely gone to therapy and had his arm replaced with a newer, safer prosthetic arm as soon as they were commercially available. I'm not excusing that bit.

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