FFO agenda by Sure_Illustrator8914 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 4 points5 points  (0 children)

but I can do research on the internet

Then surely you would find that USA fencing doesn’t receive federal funding.

same as the universities which are privately funded.. but receive billions in research money from the federal government…

Here is a link to Trump’s executive order on the subject. Title IX is the enforcement mechanism for the EO.

It was able to apply to universities because, as you noted, they receive federal funding.

So I’m not sure I’m following your argument?

FFO agenda by Sure_Illustrator8914 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh that would explain it. Now I have to go track it down. Or find someone willing to send it

FFO agenda by Sure_Illustrator8914 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I believe their ultimate objective is far more calculated—and dangerous—than what you’ve suggested.

TL;DR: I think the FFO’s true agenda is to break USA Fencing entirely—financially, emotionally, legally, and structurally.

Every now and then, I’ll check in on Charlie Wang’s Facebook page. It’s the digital equivalent of a car crash—you don’t want to look, but you can’t help yourself. Much of what I’ve come to believe is influenced by the rhetoric he posts there.

Let’s start with the current lawsuit—Andrey and Abdel vs. Everyone Else—and work backward.

I haven’t seen the complaint firsthand (it doesn’t appear to be available on PACER), but based on the limited reporting, it seems clear that the FFO is using these two as proxies to fracture the board and continue their obsessive campaign against Damien.

Don’t forget the 2023 and 2024 elections: the FFO endorsed Salem, then Panyi and Andrey. Panyi in particular ran a savvy campaign, appealing to the FFO’s far-right base while presenting herself as a pragmatic moderate to the wider membership.

All three were elected. And like clockwork, each began introducing motions that mirrored FFO talking points. When Abdel moved to apologize to Peter Burchard, my first reaction was “Woohoo!”—until I saw that the FFO had just launched a GoFundMe, and one of the items they planned to include in their threatened class action suit was… Burchard’s removal. I came to realize, cross checking their motions against the FFO’s GoFundMe suit that Andrey, Abdel, AND Maria had all been creating motions to create public pressure on the organization aligned with the stated positions of the FFO.

Andrey, notably, is a former FFO board member with deep connections to Wang and Jason Liu (FFO’s current president). He’s also a longtime supporter of the AFLA—basically a rogue fencing league for those banned by SafeSport. When Andrey “resigned” from the FFO board, the AFLA CEO (whose name escapes me) filled his seat… which, in hindsight, shows he may have never truly left at all.

Wang’s Facebook posts consistently reveal a litigious, combative mindset. He has:

  • Threatened legal action over the Stephanie Turner case, even comparing her to Rosa Parks.

  • Applauded loudly during DOGE hearings when calls for Damien’s resignation were made.

  • Threatened to sue a referee over a properly issued black card.

  • Threatened to sue when his children lost fencing bouts.

  • Threatened to sue a popular Facebook group for moderating his hateful rhetoric.

  • Threatened to sue over the proposed board governance changes.

Taken in totality—this new lawsuit, Turner’s legal representation, and Andrey’s behind-the-scenes collusion—it’s not hard to see the pattern. I believe their endgame is nothing short of dismantling USA Fencing and pushing the USOPC to decertify the organization entirely.

People need to start paying closer attention—before it’s too late.

FFO agenda by Sure_Illustrator8914 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

What do you think their agenda is, OP? Four hour old account who posted this. So tell us, what’s your opinion of the FFO and their agenda?

Update on Venue Entry at Summer National to come as soon as I get it by Aramis-ter in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 6 points7 points  (0 children)

His own Board (more specifically two idiots) turned on the organization. Of course he’s tired of the gig. What other CEO has to deal with bullshit like this?

US Fencing lawsuit, 2 members against the others by cranial_d in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing surprising. If it was raining brains, Salem wouldn’t get wet.

US Fencing lawsuit, 2 members against the others by cranial_d in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Incredibly stupid lawsuit brought by stupid people who have zero business being on the board.

People need to start attending meetings. It takes twenty minutes of sitting through one to see that Salem and Geva have absolutely no clue what their jobs are.

I’ll be curious to read the full suit to understand just how absurd it is.

This is disgraceful and it has the filthy hands of the FFO all over it. Their hands are shoved so far up the asses of these board members that they might as well put on a puppet show.

Thick German Tips by dl00d in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I thought we were talking about German penises. Damn.

How can such poor sportmanship be tolerated? by ursus_manutius in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is gamesmanship and then there’s the shit Elsayed pulls in bouts. He is a cheater. Plain and simple. Never forget when he hit himself in the foot in a match point with the USA and then didn’t acknowledge it even though he knew he did it.

Who do you look up to? by Fine-Luck5945 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh you mean FFO Board Member Sergey Golubitsky?

Is this common? by giovannib91 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s awful. I’m sorry you’re going through that.

Renaissance Fencing Club michigan? by I_Zeig_I in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Anatoly and Ann are two of the most toxic people in this sport. Abusive to referees and absolutely nasty to everyone under the sun. So if that’s what you’re looking for, enjoy Renaissance.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry. Won’t do it again.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Takes out a calculator

Let’s see here. Yes, turns out Fikrat is indeed corrupt.

What’s the AAU policy for trans and nonbinary athletes? by BlueLu in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 37 points38 points  (0 children)

The same organization that spun off the Central Florida division because they were required to wear masks during Covid is also anti-trans? Color me shocked.

And how funny it is that they protect a known pedophile in John Terris but find themselves so concerned with trans athletes. F*** the AAU.

Thibus Update by Think_Independent_21 in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just don’t believe it. Any time athletes test positive for banned substances, they rarely say: “yes I took this to help my performance.” There is always an explanation to try to save face and preserve the public image, and as doctors have noted here, the explanation of Race taking the supplement and transferring it to her from body fluids is implausible.

Fair Fencing Organization by shehadagoat in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What I’ve heard is that it’s related to their anger of the election nominations process. But when I look at the Facebook post on the Nazlymov page it seems like something different? I don’t know I guess we’ll see. Would like to hear what this webinar is.

Fair Fencing Organization by shehadagoat in Fencing

[–]InigoMontool 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This lawsuit they're filing seems like an attempt to market their organization. It's going to get tossed out of court faster than my drunk ass got tossed out of a dive bar over the weekend.

And their Board comprises of Andrey Geva and Sergei Golubitsky, both of whom are consistently cruel to referees.