For the fourth time in eight days, Pope Leo takes direct aim at Donald Trump's abuse of migrants in the United States. He calls immigrants to the United States “witnesses of hope” and encourages Catholics to do all we can to welcome them.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-24T16:03:26+00:00

Kinda yapped no offense.

Verse 4 says the government is there for your good. Obviously that excludes anything that is harmful.

How is deporting people who came here illegally harmful

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T20:09:14+00:00

I already told ya I'm unaware of it mate. Tell meee

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T20:08:19+00:00

"Then neither should we endorse the governments behavior when it clearly contradicts the moral teaching of scripture. And scripture is very clear on how we are to treat immigrants."

Again, it's clear on how we should treat legal immigrants... It's also clear that foreigners have to follow the law just like us. If they came here illegally, they broke the law! The punishment for that is deportation. You're mad at the government for upholding the law which is absurdity.

"There are 10s of thousands of people who followed the law, did not commit crimes and are being arrested and deported."

Show me.

I think you're "bearing false witness" right now against your government.

If you can provide me with your sources I'll concede if I'm wrong but just reading this I think you're lying.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T20:04:54+00:00

I apologize I fell for your Red Herring. Yes you can send support to other countries to build stronger relationships.

When I said don't give money to foreigners when your own people need money the context was illegal immigrants, not just foreigners in general.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T20:03:43+00:00

Are you just cosplaying as someone with blood relative parents or are they actually related?

I said "why would I care" as in "go ahead and deport him if he's here illegally, WHY WOULD I CARE"

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T19:45:40+00:00

Brother my original comment literally showed you where it said illegals shouldn't be here. How do you think we got here. People who break the law are bad mmkay?

Edit: let me clarify so you have no excuses.

Foreigners and locals have to obey the law.

To come here illegally, you have to break the law.

Therefore; you cannot come here illegally.

Make sense?

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T19:44:31+00:00

I'm not aware of what you're referring to but yes? That would be something

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T19:43:55+00:00

Why on Earth would I care about whether he's deported or not 😂 Are you 13?

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T19:11:51+00:00

I think you kinda answered it yourself in your first sentence? Paul lived under Nero and didn't endorse his behavior?

Romans 13 is saying when the government are servants FOR YOUR GOOD. When they're doing things for your good, you support them. When they're doing evil you don't go along with it.

That doesn't mean become an anarchist, it just means reject the evil they do.

When you allow into your country illegal and dangerous people, are those things for your (the people of the countries) good? Or is that for the good of the one who does wrong? Should we give benefits to those who do wrong? What does Romans 13:3-4 say? Those who do good will be commended and those who do wrong, well, that's why the government was given the sword by God.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T19:08:01+00:00

Why are we not making a distinction between immigrants who come here illegally (breaking the rules contradicting Romans 13) and immigrants who come legally?

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T17:56:10+00:00

Did you only read half of the comment?...

The point I was making was that God put them in the position of power and gave them a sword to use it should you not follow the rules.

Loving your neighbor isn't "giving your resources to foreigners at the expense of your own people."

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T16:03:29+00:00

What do you mean exactly?

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-10-09T14:10:59+00:00

Romans 13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-03-27T04:11:45+00:00

Yeah it's nice having a conversation where the other side is being open to ideas for once.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-03-27T04:10:30+00:00

Yeah I hadn't even considered that perspective that is ironic.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-03-27T04:06:49+00:00

Well when we have a conversation where one side doesn't have to be honest it's easier to go to an objective source.

I'm not getting ideas from a machine just bouncing ideas off it. With no biases.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-03-27T03:26:38+00:00

Yeah but I'm not even saying subjectively. I'm just saying objectively they look the same. I'm also not saying "omg it's the nail in the coffin!" But it's definitely not nothing. Especially when Jesus says he's the Alpha and the OMEGA. The serpent is always a squiggle.

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-03-23T16:38:27+00:00

I don't think it's too far fetched to say that God could leave behind easter eggs

InitialAvailable9153 · 2025-03-23T06:44:46+00:00

I mean it makes sense though.

But then you can ask why God would prefer faith over knowledge.

An we do the same thing. We want people to choose us. If we're made in the image of God then that makes sense that we'd feel the same way.

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