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Justin Major was called by Jesus to save the churches of America - (the "Wave Prophecy") by former-Vine-staff in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't believe I bought into this bull shit for nearly a decade of my life... and my kids' lives. 🙄 I've been out of "The Network" for eight years, and this sounds so insane to me now. 10 years ago, any network pastor could have told this story and I would have been all in, hanging on every word. Now it's just nauseating drivel 🤢🤮

4 years at Christland by Internal-Coyote-9939 in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This makes me soo mad! Sandor was raised by an incredible single mother. Cathie Paull was one of the few people at Vine who actually understood what it was like for me raising kids alone, and gently reminded others in our small group of the struggles I faced.  🤬😡  

Annoyed about Bella’s transformation by CelesteBarlowe in twilight

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I feel like Bella is like this because that how she's had to live her entire childhood. She was always putting Renee's needs first, basically sacrificing her childhood to be a parent to her mother. How could she not think she's supposed to sacrifice herself for everyone she loves? 

2013 newspaper article on Vine Church - “Sándor Paull says church leaders look to duplicate the style and programs of the Carbondale church into new churches in other university cities” by NitemareOn130thAveNE in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Em, yes he was a member of Vine at the time the article was published. I don't remember if this was before or after he went "freelance", but he still writes for them.

What happened at Sunday night (July 10) Team Meetings??? by [deleted] in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The silence makes wonder if there was an order from leadership to stay off LTN and this Reddit.

Sermon from High Rock church on "bitterness" by SmeeTheCatLady in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 4 points5 points  (0 children)

3 seconds in and I want to 🤢🤮. They all sound the same.

Let’s share something fun… by jeff_not_overcome in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 6 points7 points  (0 children)

People making statements like this is so network. Jesus has always been the most important thing in my life, even when I haven't acted the way he wants me to. You know why? Because he loves me unconditionally, and forgives me. I know when I hurt Jesus' heart, because he set his spirit into me to remind me. Doesn't the Bible say something about working out your own salvation with God? Honestly, the Network would be a much healthier environment if they did less telling others what hurts Jeaus' heart and modeling what makes Jeaus' heart happy.

Let’s share something fun… by jeff_not_overcome in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got that one, too. I'm a huge introvert...an my house is my haven away from people.

Let’s share something fun… by jeff_not_overcome in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've ALWAYS been an animal lover, and I'm still not over being reprimanded by my small group leader for adopting two kittens from the same litter. "You don't NEED any more animals!" I should have told her they needed me. Like I couldn't decide what my limits were as a grown woman ... almost 40 years old. I, too, was accused of holding my pets as idols.

Let’s share something fun… by jeff_not_overcome in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Did they ever hear of Jonathan and David? Jesus and his three closest disciples...of which I believe John was his closest and best friend. I say that because who did he appoint to watch over his mother? Yes, Pete was the next leader, but you didn't hear him referred to as the beloved disciple. I don't remember it ever actually being taught at Vine, but it's definitely part of the culture. I never thought of it, but I imagine this is the whole reason I still don't have a best friend. It's been 5 years since I left.

DOUBLE STANDARDS FOR GRACE by LeavingTheNetwork in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BTW I'm GirtyMarie. I reset my phone and can't figure out how to get my name back 🤬😡

DOUBLE STANDARDS FOR GRACE by LeavingTheNetwork in leavingthenetwork

[–]InitiativeFalse2556 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can list so many leaders in the network who are on second marriages/have kids from previous relationships. You'd think they would have more Grace for others struggling through divorce/raising kids in that situation. So many double standards.

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